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Major terrorist (white supremacist) attack in Christchurch (NZ) [UP6: 4 suspects in custody, 50 confirmed dead] (READ THREADMARKS)
- Thread starter Trevelyon
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This is what we have in Australia and even then they are tightly controlled. Killers want an advantage, not a weapon that needs pauses where they could be disarmed.
Major props to how NZ is handling this. They are impressing the hell out of me.
?? I missed the development of CC's story, can someone post a link of what she did?
Yeah, get offline for a while, and do some jogging. That's my advice.
It got me so angry yesterday. I still am, but that time off from social media etc did me good.
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No I was talking about influence to him. He said comedians don't have that type of influence because they're only jokes and therefore devoid of value
Don't let the hate get to you bro, if you do they win. Just keep living your life normally and do your best to show the people around you that being a muslim is nothing like what all the haters try to make it out to be.
He's firmly in the alt-right camp, and yes the alt-right is pretty much as bad as ISIS. Show me a list of successful ISIS attacks outside of the middle east vs alt-right inspired terrorist attacks/mass shootings. The alt-right has been pretty fucking successful at indoctrinating terrorists into action and it's intentional. Pdp makes hateful content about black people, Jews, and Muslims all the time. It's really not a stretch.
I'm so sorry. I hope you feel better. Know that there are a lot of people who stand with you.
I feel you man and I'm a white 30 yr old agnostic man. I don't understand how my colleagues are just laughing and shit at work every day. It's hard for me to not just get completely political at work every day. Take the weekend if you have it and talk to people close to you.
I disagree. When you are 18-25 you are, myself included, a fucking moron. I was right wing too and hated the idea that someone would get something for free that I was working my ass off to get. I also had trouble relating to people and hated hearing about the environment.
The difference was I didn't have the internet. So if I went out in the real world and acted like a real moron I would get (quite rightly) punched in the mouth. Time went by, life happened (watch a loved one die slowly from cancer and then we'll see how fun memes are), I learned compassion and I'm now about as left as can be.
We can't really slap people remotely so this all comes down to leadership. Leadership from the top level (ie nz right now and not fucking both sides america or hypocritical australia), leadership from influencers (like a simple, "don't be a white supremacist" and leadership from every one of us to go out and vote, and generally help each other out and have everyone's back.
This is why the whole pdp thing is so infuriating. He either needs to step up or have his platform fired into the fucking sun. And don't get me started on Trump or Morrison.
For my part I don't believe in any religion but I'll love any muslim or otherwise like a brother. No matter how fucked up the world gets, know that you are welcome in my home.
But that's the thing, we grew up before a completely toxic internet culture was really in full swing, and now even in public its acceptable for these shit heels to just yell fake news at you and ignore any criticism from you. I had a 37 year old fucking colleague do this to me at a work function baseball game. That's where we're at.
I agree, I was just saying it doesn't need to be that way.
You are not set to where you are at 18-25. But unless we have leadership people will no longer pull their head out of their asses.
I mean just imagine Murdoch tomorrow says "nope this shit has gone too far, no more racist fox, we are turning this around". The world would improve overnight. He won't of course, but he could.
Perhaps he was talking about the guy at the second mosque who wrestled a gun away from the dickhead shooter, but was unable to do much because he didn't know how to actually fire the gun. He's alive and has been giving interviews. He also likely prevented many deaths at that second mosque.
Sorry you have to navigate through such hatred. It fills me with disgust to know that there's so much Islamophobia and hatred in the world.
The Guardian has an updated overview article as well as their live feed is still being updated.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/15/new-zealand-shooting-what-we-know-so-far
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...d-as-police-respond-to-critical-incident-live
Apparently he is backtracking as per the other thread.
Fantastic news.
Not 100% sure at the moment.
But they should definitely ban them.
You don't fucking need a gun period
Not sure why the terrorist attacks in the middle east need to be left out of the equation. Seems like a forced false equivalence if you are purposely leaving out the worst things ISIS does.
ISIS litterally posts beheading videos on a regular basis. Im not defending Pewdiepie or his content but trying to equate him to an active terror organization just seems like a bad argument to me.
Anyone have any more info on this guy? He sounds awesome.
If the main source is the terrorist piece of shit's own recorded video, oh well. I'm not watching that. I was in to Ogrish 20 years ago. I'm all set with such crap now.
Wow. Hard to believe something like this could even happen, coming from the US.
There was no second shooter. The same person attacked both mosques before being apprehended.
He walked it back saying they are still discussing but that it's on the table
oh wow what a tragedy the next mosque shooter is going to have to use a bolt action.
fucking ban em all. try killing kids in a mosque without a fucking semi auto and two shotguns
The only thing I've learnt as I've got older is that as a species Humanity never listens or learns from its mistakes.
Also, social media, twitter in particular needs more stringent legal controls, if not outright banning.
The intent of this individual was to divide and conquer, and that's precisely what he's done and continues to do.
The Dunblane massacre was carried out using a pistol and a revolver (which I think was the first weapon used in the New Zealand incident, might be wrong).
Australia recently legalised same sex marriage and the conservative government in power lost an unloseable bi-election primarily on human rights and climate change issues.
I get what you are saying, but humanity is not lost.
This is terrifying and scary. As a muslim, these type of stories are the reason why I started to shy away from Americans in general. I know this is not right, but I can't help it. I started to live in a bubble with my arab friends, which is not what I intended when I first came here. I can't wait to graduate and go back to my country. I might be overreacting sorry, but this is just depressing
I pray for the victims and their families. Muslims in Western countries be careful please.
I pray for the victims and their families. Muslims in Western countries be careful please.
I understand where you're coming from, but don't let a handful of crazies influence your opinion on the greater whole of people.
I know exactly how you feel. People say these are simply isolated incidents and to not let them win, but walking around daily with fear over your head is so stressful. Especially when you see the casual apathy and hatred on social media. This stuff feels like it's becoming more common.
Of course. When you keep hearing these stories about islamphobia it happens subconsciously. I love my experience here in America and I met amazing people. I haven't had bad experiences personally. I will try and get out of this bubble, and not let this get to me.
Good man. I know it is a hard time for you personally and emotionally, but concentrate on the great parts and you will pull through. I am an Australian myself and I am ashamed to have such a vile person come from my country do such a heinous act, especially to people who were themselves just trying to make a better life.
This white supremacist terrorist attack is sickening, appalling and heartbreaking. I barely slept last night and I couldn't focus at all today just thinking and trying to process this disaster. I can't fathom what the families of these poor people are going through and the rest of NZ too. White supremacy is an epidemic and this is the result of constant hateful rhetoric (Trump) and cesspools like 8chan going unchecked among other forms of radicalization of white males. There's just so much hate in the world, I find it hard to comprehend. I'm proud of the NZ folk rallying around the victims families and those affected.
Has this been posted? That idiot senator from Qld getting egged at a press conference and hitting a minor...
Yeah what's wrong with that? Who needs semi automatic weapons?
Uh, I guess I should stay away from Twitter because every time I read about Christchurch I always see tweets from this fucking alt-right, assadite bimbo (I'd used another word, but I would catch a ban for it) who use this tragedy to spread her agenda about Syrian Civil War. Fuck her.
Yep. The Australian government and a good deal of politicians are pretty high up this pyramid. Basically, just below calls for violence:
Bullshit the perpetrators of currently government policy and political discourse care. They just care that it's politically effective to care, or political suicide not to care.