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Male Body Image in Modern Television and Film
- Thread starter RDreamer
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Yeah I think this is my thing, too. I'm cyclist fit. I do some weight lifting and have pretty toned biceps now, but my abs aren't prevalent. I bike at least 10 hours every week, but average probably 14+ hours and have for the last 4-5 years now.
The image is one thing, I am not saying it isn't delusional, but they way they say that they gain those bodies in 3 months just by exercising is stupid, most of them use steroids in order to gain those physiques yet they will never ever admit to it.
Like come on, this is ridiculous and every who believes they can gain 20 or 30 pounds of muscle in 3/6 months just by eating properly and exercise is way too naive:
Like come on, this is ridiculous and every who believes they can gain 20 or 30 pounds of muscle in 3/6 months just by eating properly and exercise is way too naive:
The only jacked cyclist ever was Lance when he was doing the full doping regimen, lol
EDIT: also if you're not, it actually helps your posture on the bike a lot to work on your core a fair amount. If you know this already and I'm being unnecessarily condescending, please yell at me and I apologize, lol.
The image is one thing, I am not saying it isn't delusional, but they way they say that they gain those bodies in 3 months just by exercising is stupid, most of them use steroids in order to gain those physiques yet they will never ever admit to it.
Like come on, this is ridiculous and every who believes they can gain 20 or 30 pounds of muscle in 3/6 months just by eating properly and exercise is way too naive:
Yeah, most of them and I'm pretty sure Chris too are not natural. But that said, you can actually achieve the body he has without steroids with the right training and diet. Of course it will take 3-4 years minimum.
It happened a while before the superhero craze. Just look at something like Indiana Jones in the scenes where he's shirtless. His lack of chiseled pecks and abs would be unheard of these days.
Try 6-8 years naturally. It's gonna vary widely of course, but that's a huge project. I follow a trainer on IG. He looks good, but it took him around 10 years to get his physique. He claims natural.
First person that came to my mind was Randall from this is us. I loosely follow the show when my wife has it on, but isn't he a mega nerd who's constantly busy with work?
Yep. 3 to 6 months for that is def not feasible without roids and hgh.
3 to 4 years tho? Yeah. That's doable.
Hemsworth was def on some stuff to get that body in 3 to 6 months.
I'm close to his size already. Actually I'm a couple inches shy from Frank Zane's measurements (biceps, chest, thigh, etc.). But that's taken me some years. It's just about consistency and dieting. Tho I'm lazy in dieting properly. ahah
Exactly what I was going to point out. The department noticed immediately, and the writers obviously put that line in there as a nod to him being gone for GoG. Get your facts straight, DigitalSpyyyyy.Now now the Andy Dwyer weight loss was actually made into a joke on the show.
(Quick context: between seasons he lost a shit load of weight when he went off to film Guardians of the Galaxy)
Indeed. I'd pick less wrinkles and preventing them over abs any day
Drink water people!
Chris Evans in that white tee in Captain America seriously had me questioning things. The dude was Prime Choice Beefcake.
it isn't hard to eat in moderation. just don't drink soda every day, have all these snacks, etc. exercise a few days a week too. getting fit isn't some super dedicated, calorie counting and weighing chicken breast type thing. just eat better and move around. like, you can do 50 push ups a day and see a notice in your shoulders, arms, and chest in a week. no one is starving either. being in shape isn't a giant task. getting a completely flat stomach with sculpted muscles all over is.
Depends of multiple factors, age, genetics, body type and so on.
this already existed in action movies, arnold, stalone, bruce lee and lots of 70s/80s/90s movie actions stars were very strong, but i agree that today thats a trend thats more popular in other genres of movies
Most people who are out of shape definitely can't do 50 push-ups a day. Everybody's starting line is a little bit different. This is still good advice but 50 push-ups might be a lot for some people and that's ok.
A lot of advice from men to other men is like
GO TO THE GYM EVERY DAY
DO 3 MAX DEADLIFT SETS
DO 3 MAX BENCH SETS
DO 40 PUSHUPS EVERY TIME YOU CRAVE SUGAR
Let's all please be nicer and not try to salvage our own insecurity by being like "getting in shape is easy you can start with a light running load of 100mi a week, haha I started with 175 but that might be too much for you" (not saying you're doing this but some people in the thread are).
I was more referring to the latter
Sure. But I wouldn't call someone lazy for not looking how many of the guys on tv and in movies look. Also I'm not lazy for previously having a food addiction and based on everyone else in my family, having a predisposition for gaining fat and muscle relatively quickly, but losing it very slowly even with cardio and a strict calorie deficit.
See, you know this stuff lol.
Why were you acting like you were some regularly schlub lol.
Skinny, thin, abs, muscles will almost always beat the overweight guy. The entertainment business makes that known over and over.
I feel like I've seen a fair amount of male body image discourse, but I suppose that's bound to show up in gay circles. Like, it's absolutely a thing and guys' self esteem is hurt they can't look like a hunk. And a lot of mass media male body images do not look realistic, I feel.
And, for me personally, I've never understood why hunks were considered the ideal male body image. To be frank, i don't find muscles attractive; in fact, turn me off. Idk, I might be an odd gay duck.
And, for me personally, I've never understood why hunks were considered the ideal male body image. To be frank, i don't find muscles attractive; in fact, turn me off. Idk, I might be an odd gay duck.
Haha knowing about fitness doesn't disqualify me as a regular guy 🤷♂️
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The thread is about everyone being sculpted as hell though.
Why is this fucking gif the funniest thing created by man in this century next to that gif ?
And why are they both Ryan Gosling ?
Yeah not everyone needs to look like those on tv and movies. And indeed they shouldn't. People shouldn't look to the screen for validation. It's dangerous and awful. It's disgusting.
This isn't going to work. Everyone's going to swear that being super fit is easy as shit
The image is one thing, I am not saying it isn't delusional, but they way they say that they gain those bodies in 3 months just by exercising is stupid, most of them use steroids in order to gain those physiques yet they will never ever admit to it.
Like come on, this is ridiculous and every who believes they can gain 20 or 30 pounds of muscle in 3/6 months just by eating properly and exercise is way too naive:
Chris trains every single day if I'm not mistaken. Even came out with a fitness app that has you train like he does and its fuckin nutty.
OK? 45. do 15. rest a minute. do another 15. rest a minute. do another 15. not all at once.
like, 15 push ups isn't hard if you push yourself through it. you can even start at a lower count.
like, what do you expect?
ERA's progressive attitudes only go so far. Soon as you get into body positivity its usually a wrap lol
lol my girlfriend has been watching the show and besides the plot being just so absurd that high school kids are the main characters in a massive murder/gang/drug conspiracy thing, the main characters all having incredible bodies is also hugely distracting
personally i like when actors that are shirtless and ripped as hell for ~1.5 minutes in a movie are later seen four months later on vacation with their families not looking ripped as hell and people are all like "oh my god what happened why is actor fat now???" because thinking someone is fat because they've actually eaten something in the past three hours, are properly hydrated, aren't flexing, aren't wearing make up, aren't oiled up, and aren't in lighting specifically crafted for them is an incredibly healthy way of looking at other people.
Some people can't do 2 when they start. You know that right?
Well anyway I'm going to duck out of this thread now, I'm going through enough without needing people saying that the thing I've battled with for years is "easy". I'm making good progress with my body image and fitness but this thread is bumming me out, so I'm out.
I think the point is that the number you quoted is unrealistic for someone who's getting in shape for the first time, when you could have said something that wouldn't scare someone off, like 5-10 in a day. Also, doing 50 push-ups with perfect form is not easy, especially for people who aren't naturally strong in their upper body. I agree with your advice that you have to start somewhere, but the number you said might scare some people off.
Yeah, male body image in (mainly) US tv shows and movies are ridiculous. I was actually positively surprised when Asa Butterfield in Sex Education went shirtless and he just looks like a regular scrawny dude. I am so conditionned by Hollywood that I was expecting him to be hiding a six pack under there.
One of the most ridiculous ones I encountered is this:
Look, I love The Edge of Seventeen. It's a great coming of age movie, but this is just ridiculous. This guy is the awkward nerd-type character. He's painfully unsuccessful with the ladies and his big idea for a romantic gesture is making a cringey dorky flash animation movie. However, he also happens to have a perfect six-pack and a great body. The craziest thing about the scene isn't necessarily his body (I guess you could make an argument that a lonely rich kid would spend a lot of time in his home gym), no it's how Hailee Steinfeld doesn't even acknowledge this. How does this teen girl not notice that this guy has pretty much literally the perfect body?
Then again, I guess The Edge of Seventeen does it both ways around, since Hailee Steinfeld is also playing some unattractive loser, while in fact she's absolutely gorgeous.
Stealth bragging post.
One of the most ridiculous ones I encountered is this:
Look, I love The Edge of Seventeen. It's a great coming of age movie, but this is just ridiculous. This guy is the awkward nerd-type character. He's painfully unsuccessful with the ladies and his big idea for a romantic gesture is making a cringey dorky flash animation movie. However, he also happens to have a perfect six-pack and a great body. The craziest thing about the scene isn't necessarily his body (I guess you could make an argument that a lonely rich kid would spend a lot of time in his home gym), no it's how Hailee Steinfeld doesn't even acknowledge this. How does this teen girl not notice that this guy has pretty much literally the perfect body?
Then again, I guess The Edge of Seventeen does it both ways around, since Hailee Steinfeld is also playing some unattractive loser, while in fact she's absolutely gorgeous.
Cool
So looking at the replies in here I'm thinking two things:
1) Anyone skinnier than me is lazy?
2) Anyone bigger than me must be on 'roids?
Is that about right?
1) Anyone skinnier than me is lazy?
2) Anyone bigger than me must be on 'roids?
Is that about right?
One of the most ridiculous ones I encountered is this:
Look, I love The Edge of Seventeen. It's a great coming of age movie, but this is just ridiculous. This guy is the awkward nerd-type character. He's painfully unsuccessful with the ladies and his big idea for a romantic gesture is making a cringey dorky flash animation movie. However, he also happens to have a perfect six-pack and a great body. The craziest thing about the scene isn't necessarily his body (I guess you could make an argument that a lonely rich kid would spend a lot of time in his home gym), no it's how Hailee Steinfeld doesn't even acknowledge this. How does this teen girl not notice that this guy has pretty much literally the perfect body?
Then again, I guess The Edge of Seventeen does it both ways around, since Hailee Steinfeld is also playing some unattractive loser, while in fact she's absolutely gorgeous.
Yeah I was struck by this one in particular too. Hollywood does poorly with nerdy-types already without making all of them "secretly" jacked.