So, that seems inconsistent to me then.
the upside is that the people who work at their bodies are revered and respected more than they would be if these hyper fit body standards weren't as prevelant and important as they are today.
People in this very thread are downplaying the crazy work it takes to get a body like Justin Theroux.
i hear what you're saying, but i think the chiseled phsyque is made to be more attractive because all of our heroes and idols have it. if it's common in the media with the characters we like and want to be like, it becomes more attractive. if it's common in everyday society, then it becomes less attractive. it's currently prevelant with the former but not the latter.This makes literally no sense whatsoever.
Prevalence of something normalizes it and makes it seem less remarkable than it really is. People in this very thread are downplaying the crazy work it takes to get a body like Justin Theroux. Oh that's just normal. No, it only seems normal because we're seeing people like Helmsworth and others everywhere. And on top of that they're dehydrating and doing reps between takes to overinflated that, so others who put in the hard work look less so.
Do you really think that if we saw less dudes with super hero-esque bodies on the screen we would care less about our friends, family, and others who accomplished amazing things with their body?
Is he even doing anything special? I stopped drinking soda and only eat half a dozen donuts rather than the baker's dozen per day I was eating and sit around arguing on Era. I look way better than this actor who refers to a boxing gym as his second home, does 40 min of sparring followed by 20 min of lifting, ab work or circuits every day.
Totally doable to look like this at 45 years old by not doing anything special. That isn't messing with people's heads when they actually do something special and don't get the results they expected.
Isn't Lundren's post like, 200 proof sarcastic?Congrats on the fast metabolism and inherent Mesomorph body shape bud *applause*
Also it will depend on how heavy you are before the weight loss process. Ever seen someone who's actual torso looks like a hoodie with a bunch of shit stored in the front pocket? That's leftover fat and skin and it's tricky to get rid of it without surgery.
Along with 20ft penisesThe thread in which I learned that a large portion of posters have six packs
It's obviously sarcastic.Congrats on the fast metabolism and inherent Mesomorph body shape bud *applause*
Also it will depend on how heavy you are before the weight loss process. Ever seen someone who's actual torso looks like a hoodie with a bunch of shit stored in the front pocket? That's leftover fat and skin and it's tricky to get rid of it without surgery.
I mean, sometimes people aren't that obvious with it, but this specific post, especially towards the end, is dripping with sarcasm.Maybe! Is it wise to assume questionable takes someone typed on the internet that you hear non-sarcastically often are always sarcastic?
I mean, sometimes people aren't that obvious with it, but this specific post, especially towards the end, is dripping with sarcasm.
I'd bet my left nut on that one.
Edit: to be specific, the last sentence only makes sense for the purposes of sarcasm, as in a non-sarcastic comment, it would've been irrelevant. He's basically adding criticism against the type of comment he's parodying, so in a serious statement, the line would be absent
all the fat goes straight to their dicks.
You say its extreme but every second person in every diet thread is recommending a calorie counting intermittent fasting keto diet. Probably more of the norm at this point.There is quite a lot of misconceptions in this post. Yes Rob McElhenney did this but that's very extreme methodology and a very short timeframe. Most guys that are big are not doing this, especially if tall.
You say its extreme but every second person in every diet thread is recommending a calorie counting intermittent fasting keto diet. Probably more of the norm at this point.
That's how dieting fads work. People have, or see, short term success and then begin reccomending it. Happened with Atkins, low-fat in the 80s and 90s, all types of juice diets, etc. Then eventually the majority of the people on them find the diet unsustainable for a variety of reasons.You say its extreme but every second person in every diet thread is recommending a calorie counting intermittent fasting keto diet. Probably more of the norm at this point.
The 80s era is seen as the start of the modern era. It has been heavily explored in research and popular culture since then and before.How is that at all a modern thing? Ripped dudes has always been a trope, 80's action movies was filled to the brim with them. I'm the same token, fat dudes were always comic relief, none of this is new.
Also, what's the problem with it? Those are some serious goals and I would live to look like some of these guys. It's some serious motivation to get your shit together, ESPECIALLY, when you have people in your personal life that don't look too far off from these guys.
Well it undoubtedly requires a lot of core strength to carry around such massive dongs
The 80s era is seen as the start of the modern era. It has been heavily explored in research and popular culture since then and before.
The problem is, much like with women's body image, the pursuit of a certain physique can lead to an unhealthy obsession that when the average person is unable to reach an unattainable, or sustainable, image in their head they spiral down. Similar to the issues with young girls who pursue being thin over everything else. It is body dysmorphia fuel for basically.
The goal being an old one doesn't mean that it is good. Tradition is not always good afterall.
Edit: here's a more thorough start
The thread in which I learned that a large portion of posters have six packs
What do you mean goals? This is just your average Era member based on this thread.
Just a small note I wanted to add to the thread:
Yesterday I took my niece and nephew to go and see Spider-man FFH (its good, I recommend it). Very low / no context spoilers — there is a scene where Peter needs to get changed from his regular clothes into a Spidey suit and is briefly topless. Tom Holland is obviously in pretty good shape as a lead character in an MCU role, but after the film when the kids were talking to each other about which parts from the film they thought were best (comedy, action, drama etc), this scene came up and my nephew (who is like 10/11yr) mentioned that he didn't think Holland "looked that big" physically.
Now part of that is obviously youthful naivety on actual fitness knowledge, but it was something that stuck with me having had this thread in mind. If you see FFH, you'll know what scene I'm talking about and will know that Holland is definitely in great shape (much better shape than a 16yr old kid like Peter would be without super strength etc) and that I guess this counts as a real world perception of how the body image views are distorted.
Is he even doing anything special? I stopped drinking soda and only eat half a dozen donuts rather than the baker's dozen per day I was eating and sit around arguing on Era. I look way better than this actor who refers to a boxing gym as his second home, does 40 min of sparring followed by 20 min of lifting, ab work or circuits every day.
Totally doable to look like this at 45 years old by not doing anything special. That isn't messing with people's heads when they actually do something special and don't get the results they expected.
Sure, a good diet, some exercise, good sleep, refraining from alcohol and smoking, and good mental health.... all things the character in that show completely and utterly lacks.
There is a difference between positive motivation and unrealistic goals though. You mention healthy eating and exercise habits but to obtain those physiques it requires an amount of nutritional discipline and gym time that the average person cannot achieve. Eating healthy and working out is good, but the problem is when people are unable to hit their perceived goal and obsess over the last "few" steps to get Hemmsworth or Rock swole. Afterall the goal of movies and media isn't to promote health it's to sell you junk by any means possible. The same way overly thin models were used to sell clothes in the heroin-chic era. They to could serve as fitness goals for people, but also carried their own problematic elements.While I'm not saying kill yourself in the gym or take steroids, many Americans live completely unhealthy life styles and I see this as positive motivation.
I'm overweight at 248 pounds at around 6"0. To even put on noticeable muscle mass right now is a huge fitness goal for me. If this "unrealistic male image" promotes people to learn to live a healthier life than do be it.
Because of this "unrealistic male image" I'm not taking food at face value anymore. I'm starting to pay attention to calorie counts, the amount of fried foods and red meats I consume, healthy food alternatives/proteins etc.
If we can at the very least normalize healthy eating patterns and regular fitness (which most Americans have no idea how to maintain or even start) then hopefully the male body in media can be a jumping point.
I love lifting weights.I guess I'm lucky I find running and lifting heavy things fun xD
There is a middle ground though that's very healthy. That's my issue. I'm not saying actors all should be fat instead of ripped. I'm saying actors can instead merely be healthy rather than the insane pressure that makes them do reps and dehydrate between takes to look even more unattainably muscular than they should be.Well this is an interesting problem but I would never submit an actor to a body condition potentially harmful for his or her health.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Daniels in The Wire. I think it was season 3 when he's first seen shirtless and it's just ridiculous that someone like him is in that kind of shape.
There is a middle ground though that's very healthy. That's my issue. I'm not saying actors all should be fat instead of ripped. I'm saying actors can instead merely be healthy rather than the insane pressure that makes them do reps and dehydrate between takes to look even more unattainably muscular than they should be.
A lot of actors don't like this pressure they have to be bodybuilders to get work!
I said the same thing while watching that show, it was really refreshing.Kinda lttp to this thread but as a huge dude with a dadbod I'm starting to notice these extreme beautiful people in tv shows and movies. It's getting rather annoying tbh because people just don't look like that for the most part. It's why I appreciate the German Netflix show Dark so much. People just look fucking normal.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Daniels in The Wire. I think it was season 3 when he's first seen shirtless and it's just ridiculous that someone like him is in that kind of shape.
What?Kinda lttp to this thread but as a huge dude with a dadbod I'm starting to notice these extreme beautiful people in tv shows and movies. It's getting rather annoying tbh because people just don't look like that for the most part. It's why I appreciate the German Netflix show Dark so much. People just look fucking normal.
This is my nightmare. "Stout" men with vague definition, a few bad months away from a dad bod.Yeah, I'd like to see a return to the 50s-70s male aesthetic. The poster child for that in my eyes is Charleton Heston in The Ten Commandments: obviously a strong, fit dude, even if there's not a six pack to speak of.