I was referring to this part:
You're making his height the excuse for everything (in this case the excuse to start body-shaming him).
Yeah, basically. Fighting toxicity with more toxicity never works.
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I was referring to this part:
You're making his height the excuse for everything (in this case the excuse to start body-shaming him).
Yeah, basically. Fighting toxicity with more toxicity never works.
This is where I'm at. For some reason I don't believe this is his normal attitude or persona.
It sucks being ridiculed for something you can't control like your height and all, but don't take that shit out on random people and don't be a sexist shit head.
That tackle tho. It's like when keeping it real goes wrong.
That tackle tho. It's like when keeping it real goes wrong.
i didnt say anything about defending the word "manlet" , i was referring to the general consensus that this dude acted out of his mind and trying to make an excuse for himself by pulling the short card, which no one had even used on him in the beginning of the confrontation
Well I am not going to stop you from self deprecating humour but this reminds me comedians who used to use colour of skin, ethnicity, accent et al (Like Russell Peters) to drive their jokes because they belonged the same group some way or another. Did not make it age any well regardless.
What were you referring to when you said "It's not about calling out short people"? Because if you're referring to that then the statement makes no sense whatsoever; you had already said that he'd used "the short card," before.
I'm putting it in the same category as jokes about Trump's alleged hair. Hard not to go for the obvious when the person is an asshole
There are a lot of blind spots on this forum--a lot of people say not to make fun of others heights, weight, or appearance on this site, but the second it's someone they hate the gloves come off and people hurl out really shitty insults.
It's fucked that a guy gets rejected because he's short, but that's no excuse to just start verbally wailing on people who've (seemingly) made no insinuations or judgements at all. Of course it's also not cool that some dude tackled him.
This whole situation is weird and messed up.
This whole situation is weird and messed up.
I'm extremely short myself. It's immutable trait I couldn't help.
I would never compare the shit I get for being short to the shit I get for being black.
Since, you know, one trait has a storied history and continuance of barbaric treatment and erasure and the other one doesn't?
Like, you know...my ancestors weren't put in the fields for their height....
But whatever! Let's just go to town and make those comparisons anyway I guess!
And fuck the dude in the tweets for being a sexist twat.
I would never compare the shit I get for being short to the shit I get for being black.
Since, you know, one trait has a storied history and continuance of barbaric treatment and erasure and the other one doesn't?
Like, you know...my ancestors weren't put in the fields for their height....
But whatever! Let's just go to town and make those comparisons anyway I guess!
And fuck the dude in the tweets for being a sexist twat.
I'll just assume you mean you think I'd be very unpleasant to talk to. Which is probably true.
Anyway, I apparently couldn't resist the heightist joke in the moment. That was my failing. Should have found other ways to attack his piss poor character with humor.
I'm certainly not a lawyer in NY (or anywhere else for that matter), but I'm pretty sure "fighting words" is a defense against that sort of charge. The guy is on film inviting him to attack.
comments in this thread kind of prove dude's point even if he came off like a complete idiot. on the face of it, an attitude like that is his problem, but i also don't know his struggles too. that frustration comes from a real place and we're not there in the situation to know what set him off.
also dude shouldn't have put hands on him like that smfh
also dude shouldn't have put hands on him like that smfh
He isn't being rejected because he's short.
He's being rejected because he's an asshole.
I know plenty of short guys in happy relationships.
If he didn't want to get tackled, maybe he shouldn't have been screaming and shouting and threatening people. He needed to be put in his place.
This place is GAF-like when it comes to certain things. From the mental health stuff to the sadly Etika stuff (RIP) and now you get stuff about those lacking height. Goes back to people lacking compassion at the end of the day. Shit's lame as hell. ERA's good for a lot of stuff but certain stuff just feels anti-progression and I'm seeing a lot of it pop up more these days.
That dude needs help and has problems, definitely but people need to lay off the height comments. An asshole's problem is being an asshole at the end of the day.
Making jokes at your own expense is different to making them at other people's expense, even if they're arseholes like this guy. I constantly belittle myself for being fat but I'd never fat-shame someone else even if they were being an utterly awful person. I'd belittle them for, well, being an utterly awful person.
Jokes about Trump's hair are just as bad. It's still just lazy body shaming that helps no-one and hurts those who do have to deal with that particular aspect of themselves.
should have just ate his delicious bagel. Nobody asked for a side of sexism with your bagel. Get this man some cream cheese.
mmmmmmmm bagels
mmmmmmmm bagels
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One dude used the black comparison.
Regardless of all that, how does that take away from the fact that people are making fun of something he can't physically change?
You're getting dangerously close to "You're only a - insert bigoted slur - if I don't like you and you're a bad person" with this.
I still feel like actually making it about his height in this instance is a red herring because everyone involved in this situation has to deal with a guy throwing a fit in public over something literally nobody -- not himself, not the other patrons, not the staff -- has any control over or, to my knowledge, has had anything to do with.
I don't necessarily like people throwing hands in public but when you've got a loud dude like this who's talking like some redpiller and berating the (all-women?) staff, I think it's necessary or inevitable.
Hell, unless there's some huge missing context beyond the start of that first tweet's video it sounds like people were being nice to him before he started getting abusive toward the staff? That's not a height thing.
I don't necessarily like people throwing hands in public but when you've got a loud dude like this who's talking like some redpiller and berating the (all-women?) staff, I think it's necessary or inevitable.
Hell, unless there's some huge missing context beyond the start of that first tweet's video it sounds like people were being nice to him before he started getting abusive toward the staff? That's not a height thing.
Only one person used that comparison and nobody's backed them up so I don't think it's right to ignore the body-shaming going on just because of it. Comparisons to the stigma surrounding being fat, bald, ginger are a lot better seeing as they're all "socially acceptable" things to body-shame people over.
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100%.
I feel bad to make fun of him, this dude is clearly damaged. But on the other hand, it's important to (eugh, honestly sorry) rise above a situation you can't control and be the better person in other ways.... and this isn't it.
He shouldn't be pitied
He wasted a bagel
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Here's the one I meant to put :
I'm not making his height the excuse, im saying that he is making it the excuse lol. Which is literally the first thing he says in the video.
I never meant to make it look like I was attacking short people or anything like that. I'm just saying he's using that as the excuse. (even though it's not really, he's just a shitty person)
Saying he's being an example of the Napoleonic complex isn't me trying to make fun of short people in any way. My mistake if it's coming off that way though.
Whoops thought I edited my reply to you faster. Sorry.
Here's the one I meant to put :
I'm not making his height the excuse, im saying that he is making it the excuse lol. Which is literally the first thing he says in the video.
I never meant to make it look like I was attacking short people or anything like that. I'm just saying he's using that as the excuse. (even though it's not really, he's just a shitty person)
Saying he's being an example of the Napoleonic complex isn't me trying to make fun of short people in any way. My mistake if it's coming off that way though.
Looks lile the dude from House? Peter Jacobson
Edit: eh maybe he doesnt look much like him.
This. Apparently, body shaming is not ok to a certain point.
His girl problems aren't because of his height. It's because his personality sucks. Case in point. None of my short homies struggled in the dating scene. This is some insel shit.
Edit: disappointing thread in here. Do better.
Edit: disappointing thread in here. Do better.
You are sharing an anecdote to argue that height isn't important these days.
Commenter on Twitter put a point on the "NOT MY DAD" line and, like, that's going to haunt me for the rest of the day now that I'm reflecting on it. This is how the dude thinks men act. I'd feel bad for him if he didn't represent a pretty plausible risk to the people around him.
Ah, OK.
And your first reply was to someone saying "I thought all types were welcome here," so even if you weren't attacking short people you were definitely defending other people attacking short people.
It's ok... most of us are able to understand people making those comments aren't directed about everyone who is short but rather this guy because he's being an asshole...
I've had it happen in real life without people even realizing that I'm just as short as the person they're making fun of. I pointed it out to a friend who simply said "yeah but you're cool and he's a douche bag". It's just a normal thing and we're used to it, getting called those things personally without provaction is something entirely different. My defense mechanism is to get in front of it and joke about it like it doesn't bother me (even though it does), otherwise people just assume Napoleon complex.
That chest to belly bump had me dying lol I can't imagine being a male 5'5 or under, that shit has got to be depressing.
He's a short fat guy with a bald head and hates life
If he put some actual effort into presenting himself and fixing himself up his hight would hardly be an issue
Nah my reply to them was because they included my original post in their reply about people bodyshaming. Then they replied saying they didn't mean to quote me or something.
But it was already too late lol
Apart from in the example he used he was being rejected for being short unless he includes that fact he's an asshole on his dating profile.
Great, that doesn't prove anything and ignores all the factors of why they're in relationships. Have you asked them if they thought being short was a benefit or detriment to their lives in general?
Ignoring stigma exists just contributes to it's continued existence. The consequences are nowhere near as huge as they are for other marginalised groups, heck I don't think anybody's ever been assaulted for being short, but it's pervasive in just about all communities and leads to normalised discrimination even outside of the dating world (see this thread or the fact people feel iffy about mocking people for weight but not height)
Nobody thinks the guy wasn't being a huge ass hole here, I don't think a single post has suggested as much? Just some short people getting annoyed by people saying it's not an issue when it's directly effected their dating/social/work lives directly.
Why would that be "depressing"?
The fuck is wrong with some of you?
Could have just been a lifetime of short guy life exploding randomly. I'm sure he has had a tough time getting women throughout his life.
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