Good on him, but hell naw. I enjoy my furry roommates, but not enough to risk losing time with my wife. I don't have that in me.
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Man runs into a burning house to save his dog (video)
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No I read all the comments in the thread. The "unhealthy attachment" line was strange wording, and I think that's what pissed most people off, but his point is spot on. And he never personally attacked anyone even in response to crazy reactions calling him a cunt and a robot and saying he's shitting up the thread.
Also, he said he grew up on a farm full of animals, where people generally have a very different type of love for their animals than people who treat pets as proxy kids. Hence the disconnect between "unhealthy attachment" and "toss away our pets".
Some people have a point that this man was not only risking his life, but potentially leaving his kids and wife without him. It was an incredibly risky thing he did, and it was something he probably didn't think too hard about, but as a lover of animals I would probably do the same thing. I've never outright risked my life for an animal, yet, but I've always saved animals that were in any kind of danger because I don't think I'd be able to live with myself if I didn't and anything bad happened to them. The man probably felt the same way, especially because that dog was part of his family.
Animals are just as important as people.
Animals are just as important as people.
Eh, I'm pretty good at shutting that stuff out. I mentioned it earlier, but I work in residential care where we counsel and care for teenage girls who have suffered from extreme trauma. These kids have a habit of screaming in your face and calling you every terrible thing in the book. Ironically, I have literally put my life on the line to save these kids and coworkers who have been attacked by them. I have 5 slipped discs in my back from a time I had to help stop a riot. I was sent to the ER after getting in a tussle with a kid who I was trying to stop from swallowing a handful of broken glass. I'm not particularly phased by people calling me a monster for saying they should take care of their kids and the importance of their being alive over their dog.
I will say, growing up and having seen my pets die in the dozens, including baby puppies killed for being runts of the litter by their siblings, dogs kill themselves getting in fights with coyotes and wildcats (yes, we lost a dog to a cougar), my favorite dog snapping at another and literally popping that dogs eyeball out of its head because it tried to take a bite of its food, it's a big reason why I see pets the way I do. They are very special, but their lives are incredibly fleeting and on a very different level than any person. If people want to truly see animals for what they are they should see them with their own kind rather than just as a servant to their master. People feel super benevolent with their animals, but truth is, any dog would rather be out in the wild with other dogs than cooped up in a house 24/7, no matter how many belly rubs they get, and how they treat each other is a better way to understand an animal's true motivations.
If my dad did this I would probably punch him in the face. I can't imagine what my mother would have done.
And yeah, you do have an unhealthy attachment to your pets if you're willing to risk leaving three kids without their father to save a pet. Not to mention all other problems that would arise.
And yeah, you do have an unhealthy attachment to your pets if you're willing to risk leaving three kids without their father to save a pet. Not to mention all other problems that would arise.
Nobody in this thread saying they would also do this for their dog would actually do this for their dog.
This.
Not even rationalizing it.
I know I wouldn't think and just go for it.
Families are different, in mine pets are family members. My parents raised me this way.
Why is so hard to understand differences
I'm glad I'm not the only who thought this. Guy even has three kids haha.
your kids have to pick one life, yours or your dog, who do they choose?
You know, it's possible for something to be emotionally understandable yet also extremely irresponsible at the same time.
I don't blame this guy for doing what he did and I'm glad he and his dog are mostly ok and alive.
But it's also perfectly fine to point out potential dangers to himself and also firefighters that would not have otherwise existed. Not everything has to be all or nothing, black or white.
I don't blame this guy for doing what he did and I'm glad he and his dog are mostly ok and alive.
But it's also perfectly fine to point out potential dangers to himself and also firefighters that would not have otherwise existed. Not everything has to be all or nothing, black or white.
That's like asking your children to pick which parent gets to live, or which sibling gets to live.
Yes it's the same. Dogs are part of the family.
It's an impossible choice. Dogs aren't worth less to me because they're not human. I can't imagine being so jaded and having such a warped perception of the value of life.
Yah, people don't get it here. They have a heirachy on what life should be saved. It's impossible for them to see people viewing animals as anything more then secondary to other people.
Someone holding the view that a human life is worth more than a family pet's life doesn't make them jaded.
Valuing a dog as much as your own children is the actual warped perception. Get a grip, man.
Your dog and your son are both dying from infection. You can only afford to treat one. You buy antibiotics for the dog and let your son die. "Sorry your honor, it was an impossible choice. My dog is worth just as much as my son."
They'll most likely choose both because children tend to consider all lives equal. You have two children and can only save one, which one do you choose?
People are creating scenarios trying to "get" people that are saying pets are family, what's the point? Really this is funny and sad at the same time
You actually can't tell who are pet owners, and you actually can't tell who are parents. You're really just assuming based on your own biases.
"What is the sun blew up tomorrow and destroyed the planet? Haha, gotcha!"
Don't bother replying, you're on my ignore list.
It seems like the dog was close enough to where the guy could rescue him. He took a chance on that, and was thankfully rewarded, but it could've gone the other way easily. It doesn't matter if it's just a pet -- the sentimental value that dog has was enough for the guy to make the risk worth it.
I can't fault him for that.
Having said that, I probably couldn't have done that. I won't call the guy an idiot or anything like it, because he's not.
I can't fault him for that.
Having said that, I probably couldn't have done that. I won't call the guy an idiot or anything like it, because he's not.
The point being that people value the life of their kids more than they do their pets, despite all the pets are family talk. Right?
I understand that's how people people feel. It's not reasonable, nor is it even a position supported by law. Pets are not humans.
You think the kids would be better or equal of with the dog surviving then the dad?
I think people are making too much out of this.
Father assessed the risk, he assessed correctly. You can run to your neighbors when your toaster catches fire, or you can reach for the fire extinguisher. No one here was there, its an assumption to say he was being irresponsible.
Father assessed the risk, he assessed correctly. You can run to your neighbors when your toaster catches fire, or you can reach for the fire extinguisher. No one here was there, its an assumption to say he was being irresponsible.
The point being that you would try to save every member of your family, including your dogs.
"Yeah but what if you could only choose one!"
What if outer space was green? foh with these stuopid gotchas. Dropping a goddamn Sophie's choice doesn't prove anything. It would be an impossible scenario.
Dogs have co-evolved with humans for tens of thousands of years. They're family members to most, not mere "pets."
You understand that "reasonable" is a totally subjective way of judging things, right?
No shit.
Still doesn't put one above the other.
And it doesn't prove anything at all. In the past minorities and women weren't the same for the law. Was it reasonable to think their life was less important at the time, then?
Yes you should try of course.
But with the scenario of losing your life, I would bet his kids would be worse of without their father instead of the dog.
I truly hope the way you post here is thoroughly divorced from the manner in which you conduct yourself in your everyday life, because the idea of someone so emotionally stunted and so devoid of self-reflection offering guidance to people at their most vulnerable is terrifying.
You apparently led a life in which the animals you interacted with endured a harsh, brutal existence. Those animals' lives and your perspective on them are no more or less authentic than the lives of domestic pets and the families who love them. So stop lecturing people with your sophomoric philosophy, because having an uncommon life experience does not mean you automatically have some truer insight into the nature of morality.
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Reagardless of the risk involved?
And it's not a gotcha. Plenty of people have died trying to save their pets from a burning building.
Plenty of people could have lived and still save their pets. This guy did. Youre all assuming this person is too stupid to make a rational decision.
We could always ask a firefighter if entering a house on fire, in which you don't actually know where the fire started is a rational decision, as opposed to a guy who got lucky.
What if the dog dies and your kid gets depressed and its forever hurt by that?
What if the dog dies and your kid gets depressed and you divorce your partner because of that and all your children live without two parents anyway?
What if the dog dies and the kid doesn't give a shit?
What if the dogs dies and the kid is happy?
What if, what if, what if?
You're assuming an awful lot of things from your own prospective for an action, made by another person, that's totally emotional and not rational.
What if the dog dies and your kid gets depressed and you divorce your partner because of that and all your children live without two parents anyway?
What if the dog dies and the kid doesn't give a shit?
What if the dogs dies and the kid is happy?
What if, what if, what if?
You're assuming an awful lot of things from your own prospective for an action, made by another person, that's totally emotional and not rational.
Perhaps.
They also might resent him for the rest of their lives, and never have a healthy relationship with him again. Which would lead to all sorts of other potential issues, some even resulting in death. Who knows? It's silly to play these "what if" games.
I like to think I'd take the risk in a heartbeat, and that's me sitting here thinking it through. In the heat of the moment it would just be instinctual.
Also, it is a gotcha. Any time you're asking someone to choose which of their family members to kill it's a goddamn gotcha. That's a ridiculous scenario that has no good answers. It's also irreverent to the discussion at hand, since this wasn't a father choosing between the life of his dog or the lives of his kids. His kids were already safe. This was a father choosing between risking his own life to try and save the family dog or letting that family member literally die in a fire.
Dude is a hero.
It is quite common that losing a parent is a big trauma in younger years.
Losing a pet isn't, normally.