http://jpost.com/Diaspora/Antisemitism/Man-who-taught-dog-Nazi-salute-found-guilty-of-hate-crime-546584
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Man who taught dog Nazi salute found guilty of hate crime
- Thread starter EightBitNate
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Yahoo UK:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/youtube-c...lty-hate-speech-nazi-dog-video-145920581.html
Video in Question:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/youtube-c...lty-hate-speech-nazi-dog-video-145920581.html
Video in Question:
Count Dankula is a massive moron of immense proportions and I take great pleasure in his misfortune. That being said, this is still a pretty stupid ruling.
My apology. I searched Count Dankula in EtcEtc and didn't see any topics.
In UK hate speech is illegal, and saying to gas the jews is one of them. Only in US you will be allowed to deny the holocaust, works well for the US doesn't it?
Show proof. I've seen quite a few videos and I've seen nothing of the sort. Until then this is just stupid.
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eh. he wouldn't have been found guilty of this in america.
if that's how the country chooses to interpret i'll accept it.
arrested over a dumb youtube video.
the true irony is now that he has a criminal record it will be hard for him to get a visa to leave the country to somewhere that might tolerate his black comedy more, and he's stuck in the country he's in.
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if that's how the country chooses to interpret i'll accept it.
arrested over a dumb youtube video.
the true irony is now that he has a criminal record it will be hard for him to get a visa to leave the country to somewhere that might tolerate his black comedy more, and he's stuck in the country he's in.
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Not from the US. But from the sound of the current situation, then yes, the US is working better. How is it hate speech if you're not targeting anyone? It's a dick move to say shit like he did, but don't get me wrong, it's certainly not hate speech. He's not attacking anyone, he's just making a stupid joke. I don't believe for a single second that he actually hates Jews, and to think that from this video would just baffle me.
No, he's not, he's simply an idiot. I'm an actual Scot who has followed this case.
A colossal waste of tax payer money being held up in the courts for two years and now possibly costing more money with social services being involved and a possible stint behind bars.
People acting like idiots on YouTube should face the social repercussions and criticism that comes their way (possibly the service banning them), not the state/police intervening unless there is a credible threat of violence/something illegal.
User warned: generalizing someone's opinion because of their avatar
*Avatar quote*
Ricky Gervais aka dude that takes the piss out of trans people
Youtuber
Count Dankula
Guilty of Hate Speech
Nazi Dog Video
Just no to every aspect of this situation.
Count Dankula
Guilty of Hate Speech
Nazi Dog Video
Just no to every aspect of this situation.
Fuck hate speech/Nazis.
It's not really about liking Gervais or not but the police/Government's ability to put people behind bars as easily as this.
Considering Germany has an actual Nazi (AfP) party with 11% of the seats in their parliament, and the entire Brexit thing with the UK with massive underlying tension, I'm gonna go ahead and say, yeah, it works out a fuckton better for us than "lalalala if we don't talk about it, it will go away" has been going for Europe.
How is this not hate speech? He singles out an ethnic group of a past event that was/should be horrific to imagine for anyone alive today.
Wether he believes it or not, it's out in the public which will help other form disturbing views about it.
Some things should NOT be joked about, and this is ONE of the things.
while i don't personally agree with this verdict, i recognize the freedom of that country to issue it. this is not a case im going to defend or anything like that.
his life is pretty much over now. not really his fault since nobody could have seen this verdict coming but i find it hard to empathize with him
his life is pretty much over now. not really his fault since nobody could have seen this verdict coming but i find it hard to empathize with him
I can't see how that's a hate speech, it's a mornic thing to put online, but hate speech? Can't see it personally.
Can't believe he has been convicted for being grossly offensive, sets a very dangerous precedent.
Can't believe he has been convicted for being grossly offensive, sets a very dangerous precedent.
Fuck this guy
You know what they say about people with Anime Avatars
You know what they say about people with Anime Avatars
They like Anime
I see bars as a lil too much. But dude should be fined and have to do community service. If he didn't put it on YT to spread it and have lil kids possibly copy him I would have no problem. Him broadcasting the shit is worse for me
Yet the US have Trump and the KKK and bigots on news shows all the time. Neither are doing a good job at stopping this shit
By not penalizing people for the spread of hate speech, you allow them to coarsen public discourse and eventually normalize the hatred their weaponized rhetoric exemplifies.
Always relevant to this topic - https://www.popehat.com/2015/10/06/this-royal-throne-of-feels-this-sheltered-isle-this-england/
Trump and the GOP aren't even in the same stratosphere as these groups, and trying to equate the two just softens the bigotry and xenophobia / holocaust denialism of AfD.
Trump and the GOP aren't even in the same stratosphere as these groups, and trying to equate the two just softens the bigotry and xenophobia / holocaust denialism of AfD.
IIRC the sentence if jail can be 12~24 months.
Convicted for being 'grossly offensive' is such a potentially wide range of stuff. More so if it does result in jail time.
Obviously, they couldn't convict him of terrorism or incitement to violence, as it is a stupid offensive joke and says as much in the original video. It wouldn't have been stuck in the courts for 2 years either if it was such a clear case of extremist propaganda.
The debate here is whether or not the State is setting a good precedent for that here. There was a topic on this forum this morning suggesting we should be more like China online with the state enforcing ID laws -
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...online-and-modern-society-are-comments.30672/
It's social suicide to upload such a dumb video as this (good luck getting a job), but cases like this are on the fringes of actual extremism from dumb ass jokes/idiotic behaviour.
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Beautiful. Uk gets it. Meanwhile, in the US court system let's bail bonds person go free for killing a man, by shooting him in the back, caught on tape.
"Pretending to be racist to own the libs" sure is an interesting approach.