Saw this pop up on comic twitter. People going after a poor dude who just does digital cleanup for manga posted online.
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Manga fans on twitter harass Viz employee for mis-attributed 'censorship'
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mango is serious business guys
Never mind that the entire process of translation requires cleaning and redrawing...literally every single translation is a physical modification of the original but okay
Never mind that the entire process of translation requires cleaning and redrawing...literally every single translation is a physical modification of the original but okay
First they took away our vagina bones and now our sketched titties. Is there a group more oppressed than anime and manga fans?
As DJ explains, the timeline literally doesn't sense. The thing they're 'protesting' over was localised literally over a decade before he even started at the company
I saw something about this on reddit. People were throwing a hissy fit about Viz's censorship on Rosario+Vampire (which involved adding a bra in a scene where one of the characters accidently gets their top ripped open, exposing their breasts) something that happened like twelve fucking years ago.
Its really fucking stupid and pointless to bring up now.
Its really fucking stupid and pointless to bring up now.
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Rosario + Vampire, which they drew a bra over bare breasts in 2008 for the physical volume release (likely so retailers like B&N would approve it for stores). The only thing he did was transfer it to digital platforms and MUH CENSORSHIP
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It made rounds again on the internet. I've seen people crying about it last week on less savory sites.
Telling him he should've died instead of George Floyd is....an interesting response to a comic book thing........
Just go buy the original.
Rosario Vampire.
A Harem Romcom Manga that turns to Fight Battle manga.
Rosario Vampire.
A Harem Romcom Manga that turns to Fight Battle manga.
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There's absolutely zero excuse to threaten anyone over this. People need to chill.
If they really have a complaint, they should try taking it up with Viz, but with less antagonistic takes.
Edit: It was Rosario? Weird to get so pissed over something so old but OK.
If they really have a complaint, they should try taking it up with Viz, but with less antagonistic takes.
Edit: It was Rosario? Weird to get so pissed over something so old but OK.
There's been like three or four threads about Viz's 'censorship' on the manga reddit and it's apparent that it is coming from the same group of people.
Also who the fuck cares that much about Rosario+Vampire in 2021??? lol
That's it? That's all it took? There's absolutely no reason to threaten anyone over this.
They get mad when they see us in a space they feel we don't belong in.
The anti-censorship crowds are a bunch of idiots. Sad to hear this person got harassed over something so minor that wasn't even their fault.
What an incredibly dumb reason to act like an ass. Imagine getting this mad over some Rosario + Vampire.
Imagine getting this mad over something that happened 12 years ago lol they didn't even care until some online stranger told them to get mad about it
This is pathetic
remember when folks bitched about Mortal Kombat
remember when folks bitched about Mortal Kombat
I don't think Miyazaki has a hate boner for anime like Moore does for comics lol
I don't know how removing nudity is not censorship.
Not that this justifies any of the vile harassment they're putting this guy through
Censorship is government suppression of speech or expression. That is not what happened here. This is an editorial choice to localize a work for a specific market or audience. Nobody forced it to happen, nobody threatened to not release the work without the change, the company who controls the work made this decision themselves. In fact, it appears the version with the bra may have been drawn by the manga-ka themselves specifically with an eye toward releasing it in countries less comfortable with nudity. There is literally zero way to spin any of that as "censorship" without redefining "censorship" as "I want to see cartoon boobs and now I don't get to."
Oh no, she has a bra now! But I need to see her tits!! D: TOTALLY CENSORSHIP!!!
But yeah first thing came to mind seeing it is R+V (now that's a series I haven't heard in a while), is that I remembered noticing that change a while back ha ha. Depressing to see this guy getting shit on for that.
But yeah first thing came to mind seeing it is R+V (now that's a series I haven't heard in a while), is that I remembered noticing that change a while back ha ha. Depressing to see this guy getting shit on for that.
Jesus fuck Rosario Vampire?! lmao
Haven't heard that name in a decade.
Imagine getting outraged over Rosario Vampire of all things.
I think the OP and discussion has buried the lede a bit, this person is totally not responsible for this "censorship" at all. Said manga came out in 2008 and they started at Viz in 2020.
The manga in question that I've apparently censored is from Rosario + Vampire which I have never worked on in my time working at VIZ. Had y'all done a little research, you would know that Rosario + Vampire was published in 2008. I didn't start working at VIZ until March of 2020.
Who the bloody fuck is dragging out Rosario + Vampire in 20-fucking-20?
NO NIPPLES = OBSTRUCTION OF FREE SPEECH
CLEAVAGE IS U N A C C E P T A B L E
LOOK AT THIS HORRIFIC CENSORSHIP
What an incredible VIOLATION of the author's ARTISTIC INTENT
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Censorship doesn't have to come from governments, it can also happen in companies. That censorship is used avoid moral outrage is the point of it. When a movie cuts violent content because "think of the children" that's also censorship. You can always be reductionists and break it down to just "Oh so you just want to see titties/violence/read this disgusting book" but after all that's what's often gets censored in media.
The thing is that not every instance of censorship is automatically bad, like in this case apparently, but I get the feeling in a backlash to extreme "censorship" cries of idiots like this harassments group, people have redefined the term to something that only ever happens if ordered by the government.
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Underage ones at that since the characters in the mentioned series are in high school.
It's crazy how even when the accuser tweeted the original accusation, they clear it up a tad bit before just doubling down.
Seems really silly to pile on someone for a bit of censorship that happened 13 years ago. Especially when he wasn't involved.
Gamergate grift was basically applied to every nerd fandom unfortunately.
Unless B&N has changed its policy, I was buying Berserk from there back in the day. They just had it shrink wrapped so you couldn't read it in the store.
Wrong. Censorship is government suppression. What you're talking about is editorial choice. Colloquially the word has come to mean "editorial change I don't like," but that's a meaningless and frankly stupid misuse of the term. One that is primarily designed to weaponize outrage against those changes, it should be noted, which is a far worse act than covering up a pair of anime boobs.
Rosario + Vampire was part of their "Jump Advanced" line. This was for manga that was a little "edgier". IE more violence or nudity. I don't think they shrink-wrapped them.
They stopped doing the "Jump Advanced" thing a long time ago. I'm guessing since it wasn't shrink-wrapped, they had to censor it.
Maybe if there's demand, they'll re-release the series with a newer translation and no censorship. But I doubt people are really clamoring for Rosario + Vampire. They should really fix the Dragon Ball translations.
