Omg he is, he really really is it's really amazing the guy is relevant and taken seriously by some pretty respectable people
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Marianne Williamson finds out Dave Rubin is an idiot
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True. But this shows how shallow the debate is. In a few words of a debate, you can't make a campaign but you can break a campaign.
It also works in a presidential campaign. She has it right that much of Trump's power comes from Make America great again. The psychological thing behind it. It means make America great again for white people.
Many people are underestimating how the psyche works. Yes, she is goofy on many things.
But she has a very meaningful and correct way of thinking.
I think that Sanders is talking about the same thing but then about who holds the real levers of power.
You can't change things racially if the undercurrent stays the same. It will always break to the surface.
I think if a Democrat would win then I think she has an important role to play at some level.
She isn't the dumb thing that media is trying to portray of her
No one is asking you to give her any benefit or doubt. Listen to her interview with chapo, listen to her fucking own this dumb Dave Rubin guy. Just enjoy her for what she is. Or don't! But just regurgitating the same points over and over is kinda getting stale
Dear lord that bit about residual guilt from holocaust reparations causing people to take in too many brown refugees
Maybe you can try manifesting your own reality where these comments don't exist.
PoliERA do know political shit and cite records. It's disingenuous to paint that style of argument as though they're exactly the same as what the right wing grifters are doing.
Love his 'eeesssh COLLECTIVISM'. What is fucking US patriotism if not a form of 'collectivism', by his own logic?
God damn these people are fucking stupid.
God damn these people are fucking stupid.
I really like how she flipped the usual libertarian "but muh small government!" point on rubin
"no amount of private charity can compensate for a basic lack of social justice"
"no amount of private charity can compensate for a basic lack of social justice"
"But it meets the needs better than an unaccountable big gubment!"
How these people are able to manually breathe is always a miracle to me.
She's a gem. She's thoughtful and knows how to focus and drive the important points home without playing on Rubin's absurd playing field.
that's why I think sometimes fighting these kinds of people on their home turf can be beneficial. a lot of times these people will never let themselves be challenged (I'm assuming he thought Marianne would be a loon instead of intelligent and well spoken) and in rubin's case his whole shtick is to come off as ridiculously calm and considerate as possible when espousing bullshit so he appears more reasonable than he actually is. breaking that facade and just talking circles around him in general in front of his own audience can be a powerful thing.
K. I don't believe what she does but she isn't 'crazy.' She is able to use reason despite personal biases that lead her to put so much stock into the power of energy & vibrations, etc. Calling people 'crazy' due to their spiritual beliefs is lazy and stupid.
They're ability to meme-ify dumb shit people say is unmatched.
"Maybe we need a solution to it that risks the imagination of a new kind of possibility."
All they gotta do is randomly drop shit like that and I crack the fuck up.
Calling invented new-age self-help and magical thinking "spiritual beliefs" and therefore unchallengeable is about as lazy as possible, so I dunno about that.
Some of her beliefs are kooky, but let's be real: this girl ain't got a chance.
Keep her on to be the gift from the grifters like she has with Rubin. I think conservatives aren't really assuming a Californian new agey kinda woman is going to be so nuanced about reparations. They're probably assuming she's all feel-good bullshit.
Guys like Rubin and Shen Bapiro are the stupid person's idea of what a smart person is.
A meat head like Joe Rogan can trip Dave while barely trying. The insufferable dweeb Ben Shapiro checks him. Marianne is legitimately discussing at much more proficient level than those ding dongs can.
NOWHERE did I say they were beyond being challenged. But acting like she's supposed to be some kind of raving lunatic screaming & shitting in the streets just because she believes in the power of crystals or whatever is asinine. People have been able to simultaneously sacrifice goats, or whatever, and hold intelligent conversations about other topics for fucking centuries.
Dave Rubin is an utter piece of shit. He's an idiot yes but he's terrible too. Watching this, he says "no, you can't compare American slavery to the Holocaust" but he doesn't support it with anything, and she slaps him down immediately by pointing out that slavery lasted hundreds of years, and while Germany took responsibility for the genocide of the Jews, America never did for the slavery of the descendants of Africans. Black America STILL lags white America in key metrics of wealth, infant mortality, access to quality education, etc. And Williamson points out, correctly, that racism in America isn't really taught accurately/completely in schools, so most Americans are extremely ignorant.
She explained the issue to him very well, coming from several different angles. I was very impressed by that. Bravo to her for being so patient with a bad-faith actor.
Crazy grifter or not, Williamson is by far the best candidate in the race on reparations for slavery, and perhaps on race issues in general.
She explained the issue to him very well, coming from several different angles. I was very impressed by that. Bravo to her for being so patient with a bad-faith actor.
Crazy grifter or not, Williamson is by far the best candidate in the race on reparations for slavery, and perhaps on race issues in general.
You know what's funny about the angels/divine light shit
It is stupid and ridiculous. Angels and divine light are not coming down from heaven to fix material issues. That's an appropriate response I think.
And yet...politician after politician offers their 'prayers' when bad things happen. Politician after politician signals their allegiance to the ideology that angels and divine light comes from. We expect our politicians to signal that they think God will come down and fix things if they pray hard enough, but I guess not to actually expand on it or believe it. We expect our politicians to have authentic connection to corrupt establishments of supernatural thinking, but not to literally believe in the practical consequences of it was actually real.
I'm willing to write her off for her goofy magical thinking if we can also write off every politician that offers fucking prayers after a disaster or violent hate crime. Do they believe that a perfect omnipotent authoritarian in a golden suburb in the sky is going to come down and heal suffering or don't they? If they don't, who are they praying to exactly, and why? Either we expect them to believe that, or we expect them to say it while being full of shit.
It is stupid and ridiculous. Angels and divine light are not coming down from heaven to fix material issues. That's an appropriate response I think.
And yet...politician after politician offers their 'prayers' when bad things happen. Politician after politician signals their allegiance to the ideology that angels and divine light comes from. We expect our politicians to signal that they think God will come down and fix things if they pray hard enough, but I guess not to actually expand on it or believe it. We expect our politicians to have authentic connection to corrupt establishments of supernatural thinking, but not to literally believe in the practical consequences of it was actually real.
I'm willing to write her off for her goofy magical thinking if we can also write off every politician that offers fucking prayers after a disaster or violent hate crime. Do they believe that a perfect omnipotent authoritarian in a golden suburb in the sky is going to come down and heal suffering or don't they? If they don't, who are they praying to exactly, and why? Either we expect them to believe that, or we expect them to say it while being full of shit.
never mind the fact that she doesn't hide behind her spirituality as a replacement for actually doing something, like a lot of politicians do
She did a fantastic job at explaining this to him and he just refuses to get it. Made him look like an idiot.
She still has no chance but I'm glad to hear a nuanced take on the idea of reparations from any politician.
She still has no chance but I'm glad to hear a nuanced take on the idea of reparations from any politician.
Honestly, her response for the tiresome big government scare was the best response I've heard in awhile. It was clear and concise. That power is just going to corporations which is way worse. I'm surprised by how many amazing answers she gave coming from the Kojima-like quotes I've only seen.
man, the more I watch of the interview the more I love her
I fucking stan this woman so hard
don't miss her great interview with Virgil from Chapo
When you tell someone that they're property instead of a person, they tend to not want to obey. Especially when you tell them to threaten their own lives by doing harsh physical labour, or when their numbers near or exceed yours.
It's not even that you need to argue that slavery is equivalent to genocide. Slavery - especially as seen in America - brings genocide along with it.
It's not even that you need to argue that slavery is equivalent to genocide. Slavery - especially as seen in America - brings genocide along with it.
I loved every second of it, she actually impressed me quite a bit.
Is she presidential material? no but she needs to stick around in some way.
Is she presidential material? no but she needs to stick around in some way.
She found love on the battlefield...and she's is going to win with it!
After watching this video, I agree with everything you said. Complete respect for MW.
And also this:
Simply WTF... F*** Rubin.
