Fairly obvious we will, their mobile strategy seems to be release a mobile game for a franchise they are going to be releasing a Switch game for. Since we have a mobile Mario Kart game due next year, a Switch game should follow.
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Mario Kart 9 Switch: will it happen or not?
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We'll get a Double Dash sequel or a Mario Kart with a single player adventure mode so that the game can differentiate itself in ways that aren't related to visuals.
Mario Kart 9 will happen for sure. The reason they released MK8Deluxe was just to pad out the Switch's first year with WiiU ports in order to avoid early console lifespan drought. I'm sure since the release of Mario Kart 8 a part of the team has been working on 9 which we'll see sometime this generation.
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The Mario Kart team developed ARMS as the new game which just hit last year.
It's a ways off, but it will happen. I'd say 2020 at the very earliest, but whenever MK8D sales start to dry up, they'll have a new one ready to go.
I think Mario Kart 8 development has finally wrapped up. There's literally no more room for any new tracks on the menu select. Besides from amiibo costumes being a little outdated it's perfect.
I feel like Mario Kart 9 would have to wait until 2020 or 2021.
I feel like Mario Kart 9 would have to wait until 2020 or 2021.
It will definitely happen. A few predictions -
- The roster will be expanded significantly, and will resemble more of a "Smash Bros" roster in terms of character diversity - it won't be largely restricted to characters from the Mario franchise. We started seeing this with the MK8 DLC with Link, Inkling Kids, etc.
- Different vehicle types, similar to Diddy Kong Racing - land based (karts, motorcycles, etc), water based (hoverboat, jetskis, etc), air based (helicopters, planes, etc). Courses could either be dedicated towards a given transportation modality, or there could be transistions among each within the same course (ie, driving in a kart/motorcycle, and then going off a waterfall midway through the track to transition to a hoverboat/jetski).
- The roster will be expanded significantly, and will resemble more of a "Smash Bros" roster in terms of character diversity - it won't be largely restricted to characters from the Mario franchise. We started seeing this with the MK8 DLC with Link, Inkling Kids, etc.
- Different vehicle types, similar to Diddy Kong Racing - land based (karts, motorcycles, etc), water based (hoverboat, jetskis, etc), air based (helicopters, planes, etc). Courses could either be dedicated towards a given transportation modality, or there could be transistions among each within the same course (ie, driving in a kart/motorcycle, and then going off a waterfall midway through the track to transition to a hoverboat/jetski).
I meant GC-->Wii, not Wii U.
You complained that there wouldn't be enough graphical improvements between mk8 deluxe and mk8 on the switch.. I said the gap between wii u and switch is wider than GC and Wii from a GPU perspective. Also I brought up Splatoon 2, because its a switch game and its a sequel to a wii u game, and graphics isn't the end it be all to justify if sequels should come or not. 2 literally came out two years after the first game, while the gap between mk8 on wii u and its future successor(hell even the port that's out now) is a lot wider in release. While deluxe does use more than 2x its processing power for 1080p, MK8 isn't even fully optimized on the console(isn't built from the ground up).r
Mario Kart 9 would be due right about now if they hadn't ported 8 over. Since its selling so well, I'd say that we can expect 9 to release around Christmas 2019 or Spring of 2020, depending on what other heavy hitters they have set to release in that time period.
I can't see them using dev resources to make a new MK when they've already got one that selling like crazy and they're typically titles that sell through the whole span of a systems's life. I wouldn't count it out entirely but I can't see one coming any time soon. I can see them doing more 8 Deluxe DLC though.
So? Those are different platforms. It's a completely different matter. The point is there's nothing they could do with a new entry that they couldn't do with DLC. And it would split the userbase, and a bunch of other negative effects. Also you keep forgetting that the difference in power is very negligible in undocked mode
I think seeing the MK8 team tackle F-Zero would be cool especially after Mute City and Big Blue in MK8 but that's just me.
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I don't think splitting the userbase is a consideration Nintendo has with the Mario Kart series, to be perfectly honest. The userbase has always been split across the handheld and console versions, and the userbase for 8 is split across two platforms with no intercompatibility.
Well someone from Nintendo said a few days ago that the company want Switch to be a long-cycle console (obviously with some revision in the middle), so I expect another Zelda and Mario Kart in the system.
The real question is if we will see another 3D Mario, like SMG2 on the Wii.
The real question is if we will see another 3D Mario, like SMG2 on the Wii.
Doesn't DLC split the userbase in an even more readily apparent manner?
Let's not pretend that Mario Kart 9 wouldn't have a very robust userbase of millions of players from the very beginning.
Is this even a question? Of course Nintendo are going to put an original MK on Switch. MK8 served many purposes; it introduced the game to people without a Wii U, it put a big title on a new console in the first year and it serves as a holdover until MK Switch.
The way it has worked out, Nintendo can take their time with MK Switch because 8 (and a growing library of other top games) is already keeping gamers happy. By the time MK Switch releases there will be tens of millions of console owners out there ready for it and even more willing to grab a Switch because of MK.
The way it has worked out, Nintendo can take their time with MK Switch because 8 (and a growing library of other top games) is already keeping gamers happy. By the time MK Switch releases there will be tens of millions of console owners out there ready for it and even more willing to grab a Switch because of MK.
I mean they plan on supporting Switch for up to 10 years. We are bound to get 9. I can see us getting another 3D Mario, 2 2D Mario's, a second Kirby, the next open air Zelda as well as a more traditional one. I think we can expect some of the strongest output Nintendo has ever had.
I mean sure, but we're talking about the same platform this time. There would be consumers looking at both MK8DX and MK9 on Switch and possibly still choose the former for a variety of reasons, it's not reasonable to me.
Mario Kart has never quite been in this position before, having a deluxe edition launch as "the" MK for a console. So, yes, I think there will be. I'm not sure what it will be, but I think it will be a shake-up entry.
I'm not going to lie, I'm hoping for co-op to return.
I'm not going to lie, I'm hoping for co-op to return.
The only real issue with another Mario Kart on the same system is that it will diminish sales of the previous game. It would be like if Nintendo released a second Smash Bros on the same system. People don't expect it, and may feel like "why is a new one necessary?" "Maybe I should just wait longer and instead of buying the game right away next time, just wait for the sequel." Nintendo absolutely doesn't want that stigma attached to their games.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will sell alongside the Switch for years as a primary staple.
I'm not saying they won't make a new Mario Kart, but it would need to differentiate itself from 8 Deluxe in some meaningful way.
As a Wii U owner and a Switch owner that has purchased Mario Kart 8 for both systems, I can say that I play Mario Kart 8 far more frequently on Switch than I ever did on Wii U. I'm not sure I would buy a new Mario Kart game for my Switch unless there was some major hook that made me say "Wow I have to have that game!"
From a business perspective, Nintendo may have more of an incentive to not release a second Switch Mario Kart than they have to release one.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will sell alongside the Switch for years as a primary staple.
I'm not saying they won't make a new Mario Kart, but it would need to differentiate itself from 8 Deluxe in some meaningful way.
As a Wii U owner and a Switch owner that has purchased Mario Kart 8 for both systems, I can say that I play Mario Kart 8 far more frequently on Switch than I ever did on Wii U. I'm not sure I would buy a new Mario Kart game for my Switch unless there was some major hook that made me say "Wow I have to have that game!"
From a business perspective, Nintendo may have more of an incentive to not release a second Switch Mario Kart than they have to release one.
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That's one of the reasons I'm not so sure it will happen, yes, but at the same time, if the Switch is to last, say, 7 years, then are we saying the next Mario Kart game won't come out till 2024 at the earliest? 10 years between Mario Kart games?
On Switch I doubt.
I can see a DLC for MK8D based on Odyssey and some extra-content, like BotW course and characters.
I can see a DLC for MK8D based on Odyssey and some extra-content, like BotW course and characters.
I think both Mario Kart and Splatoon are in similar situations. They are best as once a generation games, but there is clearly both the time and demand to get another game out for Switch. And I think the approach should be the same for both too- expansion content the size of an original game coming out, not a true sequel. Sell the original game at a 'classics' discount, sell the expansion at like $40, and bundle them for a seperate retail release at regular $60 price. That way online player bases aren't split, and the games aren't competing with themselves, which I see as a real potential problem.
As for a ground-up racing game for Switch, I'd much rather they go the F-Zero/Diddy King Racing/Super Kart Bros. route and make something new. Because as good as Mario Kart is, it isn't that different from game to game. It would need a big change up to differentiate it from the content-stuffed game that's already out. And if you are already making big gameplay changes, why not go all out?
As for a ground-up racing game for Switch, I'd much rather they go the F-Zero/Diddy King Racing/Super Kart Bros. route and make something new. Because as good as Mario Kart is, it isn't that different from game to game. It would need a big change up to differentiate it from the content-stuffed game that's already out. And if you are already making big gameplay changes, why not go all out?
If we can get a new FIFA, NFL, NBA, etc game every single year without worrying about split userbases, then I don't think a new Mario Kart within 3 years (as we've gotten since Double Dash) is too crazy. Especially considering how different each Mario Kart game is compared to each annualized sports game.
For real though I'd take more 8 DLC and wait a little longer for 9. Maybe get a full pack of good characters and not shit like Pink Gold Peach and the suit Mario and Peach? Gimme that Diddy Nintendo!
No doubt in my mind that they will. MK8D was a game which, whilst still being an absolutely amazing game for the system, allowed for a relatively low-risk testing of the waters in the Switch's launch honeymoon period.
Now that the console is selling Gangbusters, I honestly see a future without MK9 launching on Switch. Put me with the 2020 crowd.
Now that the console is selling Gangbusters, I honestly see a future without MK9 launching on Switch. Put me with the 2020 crowd.
I feel this way about MK8Deluxe too, it's like they had take all the good decisions in the franchise and created the ultimate MK experience, good luck trying to top the game.
The same with SSB4, huge roster and good gameplay.
Both games can be expanded and improved, but going from zero to create a new entry will be hard.
Let's look at this:
Mario Kart Double Dash (GC) launch year: 2003
Mario Kart DS (DS) launch year: 2005
Mario Kart Wii (Wii) launch year: 2008
Mario Kart 7 (3DS) launch year: 2011
Mario Kart 8 (WiiU) launch year: 2014
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch) launch year: 2017
So, Mario Kart 9 launch year: 2020?
Mario Kart Double Dash (GC) launch year: 2003
Mario Kart DS (DS) launch year: 2005
Mario Kart Wii (Wii) launch year: 2008
Mario Kart 7 (3DS) launch year: 2011
Mario Kart 8 (WiiU) launch year: 2014
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch) launch year: 2017
So, Mario Kart 9 launch year: 2020?
I really and truly think they won't. MK8D will continue to sell millions for years to come. Like, even into 2024 if that's when we're assuming Switch life's end, if Nintendo is to be believed.
This continues to keep the MK team making other games, like Arms.
Their next system, however, will launch with Mk9 :)
This continues to keep the MK team making other games, like Arms.
Their next system, however, will launch with Mk9 :)
The difference is once you buy the DLC, you get all the content on the same game and can enjoy it with the full userbase. If you have to buy another game, you won't be able to make use of the old game's content in the switch (sorry for the pun) to the new userbase.
That could mean extended support with DLC effectively making MK a GAaS for the diration of the Switch's life, or it could mean they would still support the Switch for a while after the successor is released, much like with the 3DS, and the new game would land on the successor instead without waiting such a long time
MK8D was clearly a buy-some-time move to get MK on the Switch ASAP, salvage all the work they put on Wii U, and let the dev team make ARMS. The most damning thing for me is it's also the only major year one Switch game with no DLC. If they wanted it to be THE Mario Kart game that people keep coming back to, then that'd be an obvious thing to do, but it hasn't happened.
The series has always been on a three-year cycle and they can probably time MK9 around an upgraded Switch (since there's no way the system isn't iterative in some form). The time is right about now for them to start going into full dev with ARMS having wrapped up. I'd be shocked if the Switch really doesn't get its own Mario Kart. They'll probably do something really crazy to make it distinctively its own, all-new identity.
The series has always been on a three-year cycle and they can probably time MK9 around an upgraded Switch (since there's no way the system isn't iterative in some form). The time is right about now for them to start going into full dev with ARMS having wrapped up. I'd be shocked if the Switch really doesn't get its own Mario Kart. They'll probably do something really crazy to make it distinctively its own, all-new identity.
Sure. Switch is going to last more than 6 years as Kimishima said, so at some point MK8DX will eventualy stop to sell and they'll need a new racing game.
Do not expect this to happen anytime soon though.
Do not expect this to happen anytime soon though.
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