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Markiplier Live Stream Viewers Are Having Their Google Accounts Disabled For Spamming Emotes In His Live Stream Chats
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YouTube is such a shitshow it's incredible.
Their whole platform is fucking disgusting and sometimes even on purpose
Their whole platform is fucking disgusting and sometimes even on purpose
If youtube doesn't want people to post more than a few emotes in a single message they should put a limit and show it to the user. easy as that
The bans make no sense, there's no logic. People are going to use the tools you gave them and for the looks of it there was nothing wrong on how they used it.
The bans make no sense, there's no logic. People are going to use the tools you gave them and for the looks of it there was nothing wrong on how they used it.
Imagine spamming emotes in someone's Twitch chat, and then going to Amazon only to discover that they've wiped out your Amazon account, removed all your Amazon Prime benefits, and banned you from ever shopping on Amazon again.
This is arguably worse because losing your Google account means losing GMail, Google Drive, etc. etc. Do you have any work on Google Cloud? Kiss access to that goodbye. Subscriptions to Google Play Music, purchases on the Google Play store, all locked out. Google Accounts are often used as an SSO sign-on method for other sites on the internet. Congratulations: you can't log into those sites either anymore.
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what does a suspended google account mean? you can't even login to gmail? man what a shit show
i wonder with stadia coming out what that would mean? if you get suspended on youtube for spamming emotes (LOL) would all your stadia games disappear too? I assume you can't "cheat" in stadia, but if you got caught AFKing say in a multiplayer PVP game, what does that mean to the rest of your google services?
crazy stuff. between amazon, facebook, apple, and google its insane how much of your digital footprint is concentrated in fewer and fewer hands and how much of your routine they control.
i wonder with stadia coming out what that would mean? if you get suspended on youtube for spamming emotes (LOL) would all your stadia games disappear too? I assume you can't "cheat" in stadia, but if you got caught AFKing say in a multiplayer PVP game, what does that mean to the rest of your google services?
crazy stuff. between amazon, facebook, apple, and google its insane how much of your digital footprint is concentrated in fewer and fewer hands and how much of your routine they control.
I can understand a 24 hour suspension ON YOUTUBE. But an entire ban of your Google account for the sake of posting 6 green emoji's seems extreme. Especially when you consider the blatant racism and homophobia that goes on daily in the YouTube comments with zero punishment...makes tons of sense :/
Automated system, it's unlikely humans initiated these. But he makes another good point that it's pretty insane spamming a livestream chat could legitimately lead to someone's GOOGLE account getting suspended since people do way worse in chat in other ways (and video comment sections really).
yes anything connected to that google account is locked out. its insane.
You think it's appropriate for your entire Google account to be permanently banned as a result of spamming an emote inside of a contained, user-specific chat box at the request of said user?
What?
Instant (and permanent?) Google account bans seemingly being the default behavior of Google's auto moderation when it detects more than X emotes in a row in a chat comment, and there apparently being no way out of this ban, unless someone like Markiplier makes a big stink (and the jury's still out on that), is extremely fucked up.
Wonder how many people have been affected by this?
And what else kind of nonsensical bullshit can Google just decide to suddenly end your account over with no warning?
Wonder how many people have been affected by this?
And what else kind of nonsensical bullshit can Google just decide to suddenly end your account over with no warning?
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...thats stupid. Google could have had their designers write a limit in to prevent spam. They could have just issued warnings. They could have just temporarily put locked those users out from posting. They could have taken dozens of other measures before going that far. And before all that, theres moderation available, so people with actual context as to whats going on at that time can make decisions to stop inappropriate behavior.
I've seen so many front page fortnite livestreams of people spamming ASCII phalics, racist stuff, and much worse.
YouTube really is a mess. I really hope this situation gets sorted.
I would legit be lost without my Gmail.
YouTube really is a mess. I really hope this situation gets sorted.
I would legit be lost without my Gmail.
I posted this in the Etc thread about the same - but to me, this is a clear warning about putting too much of your life (i.e., Gmail) into a free account. There is absolutely no recourse available to you if you get screwed out of your account. That email address that's tied to your banking, job, etc...? Gone.
I moved to a paid service many years ago and seeing stuff like this really reinforces my decision.
I moved to a paid service many years ago and seeing stuff like this really reinforces my decision.
Yep, because google insisted on tying everything together way back when.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for actual spammers, but jfc of course YT implemented it in the worst way imaginable. Just ridiculous.
But Gmail and Google can be a paid service as well, lots of small companies use it to expand their storage on Gmail, GDrive, etc. And those people would be screwed too.
It doesn't seem to be a paid vs non-paid service, just moronic disproportionate bannings to entire accounts for a hurtless spam on a Youtube chat.
Like? Seriously! How could someone not just see like where it'll just say something like "slow down" isn't a
Oh wow, I didn't even think of the affected people who are using android phones...
I felt kinda silly and petty for doing this, but for a while not long ago I would only watch youtube from channel bookmarks I made through a private browsing window, besides channels I really liked and wanted to leave a "like," that is.
Honest answer, no.. that's actually total BS. It'd just be better if Youtube banned them from commenting on videos.
Twitch and Live Youtube chats are filled with almost nothing but shit spammers.
You're not wrong, but I don't agree that these people should be banned just for voting, which the streamer instigated. I think it should fall on the channel to moderate their own chats.
It wasn't human initiated, but humans handled the appeals and they still all ended up being banned permanently. So there isn't just a problem with the software, but the human moderators aren't doing their job in making sure people aren't being wrongfully banned.
I know they won't, but Google can't keep going on like this without changing.
The google account ban seems extreme. I hate the spamming but if I understand this correctly it was used as a vote system during one of his videos and so now a bunch of accounts are just blocked?
That is heavy handed.
That is heavy handed.
That's absolutely insane.
I've legit ever only commented on a youtube video less than a dozen times in my life, and have never posted on a live stream, and can say going forward I will never comment on any current or future google social media platforms.
I couldn't imagine losing my gmail over a comment.
Yeah, so Mark had channel emotes and said to people, "should I do 'x' or 'y', emote green for x and emote red for y," and people got automoderated for it.
The thing about twitch is that the bigger streamers have moderators in their chats, and also twitch provides tools for people to moderate their spam.
So you can have a hype mode where people can type in only emotes for things like special events, meaning that no one can type out comments that may be negative. You can have time limits, so people can comment only once every sixty seconds. You can also block emotes from being posted if you want people specifically to comment. So comment "spam" is within the controls of the streamer, and sometimes spam is part of the performance.
Think of it like a Q&A with a crowd. Yeah, people can line up to the mic to get a chance to ask a question, but when the panel asks "who here's from out of town" and people whoop and holler, that's not actually a disruption.
I've legit ever only commented on a youtube video less than a dozen times in my life, and have never posted on a live stream, and can say going forward I will never comment on any current or future google social media platforms.
I couldn't imagine losing my gmail over a comment.
Yeah, so Mark had channel emotes and said to people, "should I do 'x' or 'y', emote green for x and emote red for y," and people got automoderated for it.
The thing about twitch is that the bigger streamers have moderators in their chats, and also twitch provides tools for people to moderate their spam.
So you can have a hype mode where people can type in only emotes for things like special events, meaning that no one can type out comments that may be negative. You can have time limits, so people can comment only once every sixty seconds. You can also block emotes from being posted if you want people specifically to comment. So comment "spam" is within the controls of the streamer, and sometimes spam is part of the performance.
Think of it like a Q&A with a crowd. Yeah, people can line up to the mic to get a chance to ask a question, but when the panel asks "who here's from out of town" and people whoop and holler, that's not actually a disruption.
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Added screenshots (with personal info removed) and text context for those who can't watch.
Had title altered to show that Google accounts are being DISABLED and not suspended, because disabled means you can't access any of your google backed services.
Had title altered to show that Google accounts are being DISABLED and not suspended, because disabled means you can't access any of your google backed services.
And you watched the video to realize that this isn't one of those cases before you ran in for your hot take?
