Exactly. Not to mention even trying to imply the levels of self righteousness and hatred that the MAGA camp subscribes to in their self-victimization.
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Martin Scorsese clarifies his Marvel movies comments: ‘There is only one Spielberg, Lucas
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Exactly. Not to mention even trying to imply the levels of self righteousness and hatred that the MAGA camp subscribes to in their self-victimization.
Because as we all know according to Worthingtons Law: More Money = Better Than
hopefully he does it every week until he gets an Oscar nom.
The breakdowns would be great tbh
Which is your favourite Kiarostami film? I am quite partial to Close Up and Certified Copy.
I mean, how else are they going to express their superiority? You need like 6 master degrees and 1 PhD to understand the complexity of human characters in Cape Fear.
I'm not going to give you English titles, because I genuinely don't know them, but طعم گيلاس has been one of my favourites.
How many credentials do I need to not see Shutter Island as ableist shlock?
An Oscar nom? I obviously haven't seen it yet but I'd be happy to see Irishman get some wins, maybe best picture.
Before it gets bought and moved into the MCU.
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Well it appears we have a different sense of humour I guess. It's a silly meme making fun of sensitivity within groups. One of the punchlines is the oversensitivity of MAGA people so I am not sure why I am being accused of racism lol.
You know, I quite liked Taste of Cherry on my first watch, but on a rewatch it didn't have the same initial impact. I do love his obsession with shooting moments within cars though. 10 (dah I think is Farsi title?) is amazing.
I don't think you're racist, no, but you're kind of being obtuse about such a loaded comparison
One must be really fucking stupid to read it like that, like really.
No one accused you of racism, what're you even going on about?
I would suspect it's actually pretty common. The whole thing is just a clumsy ad hominem anyway, designed to invoke a bad thing for the purposes of emotional response and tie it to the group that one is dissatisfied with.
I just mean that it's spelled out in the picture, what the similarity is. It's not exactly vague. The tweet was shared in this specific thread, which also gives it further context. Then somebody jumping to "what, are you calling me a bigot??" has to be an idiot. Of course it's not a flattering comparison though, so I get why someone would still be upset by it. I wouldn't like to be compared to MAGA:s or GG either, when I criticize Captain Marvel, Last Jedi or Ghostbusters.
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It's tragic, because I've actively seen it turn people off of the films with depth. What people are doing, is gonna drive many people away from the films we'd actually like them to see and gain more traction, and that's sad. :/
Shutter Island is ableist? I actually prefer it to anything Marty made in a new century till Silence came out. Never had a feeling that it was prejudiced against anyone and von Sydow's character is more or less an antagonist of the film.
please whatever you do don't get him going on this one again
Cinema elitism is. Been working in a rental store with a massive arthaus selection for long enough to know. It's not like snobbery is a new concept, or even related to Scorcese. Know plenty of snobs who'd laugh at someone suggesting a Scorcese as an Artsy film.
Yeah that's actually one thing that has been bit confusing for me in these discussions, how Scorsese films have been called "pretentious" too. I don't really like that word to begin with, as it's often just means "I don't get it", but people rather blame the film for it. But Scorsese films are actually very easily approachable, often very entertaining, with wide mainstream appeal. Still there's of course great artistry behind the films, yet they're pretty straightforward and you don't need to even catch on any symbolism to enjoy them. Being easy to digest, is definitely one of the reasons I personally prefer Scorsese over many other master filmmakers.
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Do the posters that try to downplay Scorsese's work realize how foolish they seem? Literally every single producer, director, and crew involved in the MCU has been influenced by him in some way. He is like a Leonardo da Vinci or a Mozart in this field. He will be remembered for as long as cinema is studied.
Knock his opinion or dislike his filmography, that's fine, to say he is less important or jealous of Marvel is ludicrous, not to mention that one who mixed him up with Coppola. By the way, Coppola is magnificent and also an all-time great, earlier poster I can't remember your username.
Knock his opinion or dislike his filmography, that's fine, to say he is less important or jealous of Marvel is ludicrous, not to mention that one who mixed him up with Coppola. By the way, Coppola is magnificent and also an all-time great, earlier poster I can't remember your username.
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Were he like Van Gogh, no one would really care for his work until he's dead.
He's an amazing director, but the hyperbole really isn't helping. He's not God's Gift To Film, neither are the MCU directors, but I don't think anyone has actually tried to make that point with a straight face.
I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the couple who would have rented The Wind Will Carry Us but didn't because an American director said mean things about *checks notes* Thor: Ragnarok is a statistically unlikely phenomenon
You'd be surprised how much snobbery turns people off from movies. And this isn't about the director, are you following the thread or do you just feel like trolling?
For most. Yes. But I don't know, every decade or so we pretend that popcorn flicks are a brand new thing and that stuff like this JUST STARTED with whatever brand new trend is going.
His comments would be right at home in the 2000s; and the 1990s. Hes merely acting like its something new when it isn't. There is no invasion. Poppy shallow flicks were always the majority. ALWAYS.
Not immediately but once whatever he had been working on finished... the MCU would absolutely skip a beat, and could go into full arrest
Your argument is that Martin Scorsese criticizing Marvel movies will somehow prevent people from watching Abbas Kiorastami movies. I don't believe this to be the case. I don't believe this to be the case because (a) any hypothetical concrete scenario where this might occur seems fundamentally goofy and implausible (see above) and (b) this is completely orthoganal to the reason Kiarostami even has enough of an American audience to include someone like Scorsese. Like, the only reason people in the States even know who Kiarostami is is because elitist film snobs championed his stuff against Hollywood blockbusters in the 90's.
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Whether it's intentional or not, or depending on who the villain is, it relies on a lot of bad, outdated tropes about the mentally ill, same as Joker does.
I don't get it, people really think there's no vision behind MCU? If the success was so easily acheivable, then why this ship hasn't sailed before Feige came on board?
Cinematic universes are easy to do, just look at dark universe and dceu
My thing with the MCU is that while there's vision there it's more of a logistical than an artistic one. They're there to get asses in seats and dangle a carrot at the audience to ensure they'll show up next time too. I'd love if for just once Marvel Studios let a director just run wild without needing to put the pieces in place for 17 more movies and end with a green screen punchup or the team fighting a faceless CG alien horde. There's the sense that "okay Winter Soldier is their conspiracy thriller, Homecoming is a high school movie" but they always stop short of embracing those genres by needing to be the other thing.
Like compare a movie like Far From Home to Into the Spider-Verse and you'll see the difference between something trying to dazzle audiences visually and one that's overloaded with franchise planning/padding that it feels like you're watching something more like producers laying their cards down than a great movie in its own right.
Like compare a movie like Far From Home to Into the Spider-Verse and you'll see the difference between something trying to dazzle audiences visually and one that's overloaded with franchise planning/padding that it feels like you're watching something more like producers laying their cards down than a great movie in its own right.
Do we even have any successful cinematic universe besides MCU? F&F?
That's... not my argument at all.
You should maybe read the thread more carefully.
But they did let directors run wild, and are doing so much more, recently. See Guardians 1, Guardians 2, as well as Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther. They let those guys do what they envisioned and they turned up the best MCU films. What you're complaining about, ultimately, is the caveat to any sort of Superhero movie. You need to have the big climax, and you'll always get it. But that's not really limited to the Superhero genre, either, see stuff like Star Wars.
You can't compare FFH to Spider-Verse, because that's an entirely different genre, with an entirely different batch of possibilities - They could absoluely have made something Spider-Verse like, but that's not where they want to take the character, and that's okay. We got both, they're not competition.
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I'm a they. Think whatever you want about me, but that's how I prefer to be identified.
When the Sony stuff was happening I saw folks call those having faith in Marvel and not Sony being called Disney stans, not me, the only person I have absolute faith in this comic book movie industry is Feige. Disney loses Feige I lose total faith in the MCU period.
That's because they aren't artsy and got nothing to do with snobbery. He sticks to conventional methodologies with traditional storytelling formats, his films have artistic elements as all films do but he keeps the audience in mind and are palatable films to the masses, if you miss the symbolism of the cars in Goodfellas it is still a very good film. Art films usually follow an idea or concept in spite of tradition and demand things of viewers, they might be uncomfortable to watch or require a knowledge of a subject, It also doesn't mean they are elitist either as they cover all kinds of subjects and can be very low brow, it's just an approach to film that some prefer.
Logistical vision doesn't bring asses in seats after 20+ movies. If audience didn't like what MCU offers their films wouldn't be nearly as popular as they're.
Yep. Just look at the Marvel television in comparison, Loeb and co. aren't anywhere close to Feige's output in terms of consistency.
How, when typing all of this up, did you miss that "snob" and "elistist" were referring to people, and not his films?
It's amazing how much this gets missed. People legit treat Spider-Man movies like console wars. It's absolutely baffling.