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The Academy Award Winning Marvel Cinematic Universe
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I'm hype as fuck that people like Thanos, if they didn't make him compelling there's no way the movie would be able to stand.
I'm not seeing it until 7pm Friday. Pray for me.
I'm not seeing it until 7pm Friday. Pray for me.
Dude he is incredible. The CGI is the best I've ever seen and Brolin's performance is perfect.
Just rewatched Doctor Strange as I'm in an MCU mood before I see IW tomorrow, and I hadn't seen it since the cinema. It remains highly enjoyable and I feel it gets too much of a bad rap.
There's some fundamental issues, which is that it's in Phase 3 where the MCU is really branching out in style and breaking away from the basic formula it had established, but sticks to a familiar formula nonetheless. In that regard, it feels like it should have been released in Phase 2. Like Thor 1, they play it safe for narrative and character in order to ease in a much bigger and more out there concept of magic and dimensions, with which they can go crazy in future films. It follows the Iron Man 1 story, has a fairly perfunctory villain, no major genre shifts, etc.
However, GOTG 1 is also an origin story, but it just went all in on its cosmic comedy adventure, and it worked. So I think them holding back was unnecessary, audiences can take it. Of course that film also had a perfunctory villain, but hey it was an origin story for a whole team, not one dude.
All that aside, it is a really well made film. It could have done with being longer, perhaps with more time spent with Strange pre-accident, and more on his training, but it's still nicely paced and the production is excellent. The visuals do go all in and are fantastic (along with some choice cinematography and costume design). While some of the cast are wasted (like McAdams and Mikkelsen), it is a great cast, and the musical score stood out on the rewatch as being really rather good, with fine use of choir and harpsichord. Kaecilius is a starter villain through and through (and Marvel know it, they didn't use such a minor and obscure villain by accident), but he's saved from being Malekith tier by giving him a strong scene where he actually explains his motivations, which make sense. I also give the film credit for having a very creative climax.
So in short it's a really strong, if tentative start for Strange, but it's very clear the real meat will be in sequels where they can truly go off the walls. Scott Derrickson was a curious choice given he'd only made horror films, and not particularly good ones at that (in fact Doctor Strange is his first critically successful film), but reading interviews, he obviously has a genuine passion for the material and that counts for a lot. Amidst the ambition of Civil War and Black Panther, the creativity of Ragnarok and GOTG, etc, it does feel quite safe, but it's extremely well made safe and that's ok.
A good foundation.
There's some fundamental issues, which is that it's in Phase 3 where the MCU is really branching out in style and breaking away from the basic formula it had established, but sticks to a familiar formula nonetheless. In that regard, it feels like it should have been released in Phase 2. Like Thor 1, they play it safe for narrative and character in order to ease in a much bigger and more out there concept of magic and dimensions, with which they can go crazy in future films. It follows the Iron Man 1 story, has a fairly perfunctory villain, no major genre shifts, etc.
However, GOTG 1 is also an origin story, but it just went all in on its cosmic comedy adventure, and it worked. So I think them holding back was unnecessary, audiences can take it. Of course that film also had a perfunctory villain, but hey it was an origin story for a whole team, not one dude.
All that aside, it is a really well made film. It could have done with being longer, perhaps with more time spent with Strange pre-accident, and more on his training, but it's still nicely paced and the production is excellent. The visuals do go all in and are fantastic (along with some choice cinematography and costume design). While some of the cast are wasted (like McAdams and Mikkelsen), it is a great cast, and the musical score stood out on the rewatch as being really rather good, with fine use of choir and harpsichord. Kaecilius is a starter villain through and through (and Marvel know it, they didn't use such a minor and obscure villain by accident), but he's saved from being Malekith tier by giving him a strong scene where he actually explains his motivations, which make sense. I also give the film credit for having a very creative climax.
So in short it's a really strong, if tentative start for Strange, but it's very clear the real meat will be in sequels where they can truly go off the walls. Scott Derrickson was a curious choice given he'd only made horror films, and not particularly good ones at that (in fact Doctor Strange is his first critically successful film), but reading interviews, he obviously has a genuine passion for the material and that counts for a lot. Amidst the ambition of Civil War and Black Panther, the creativity of Ragnarok and GOTG, etc, it does feel quite safe, but it's extremely well made safe and that's ok.
A good foundation.
I actually just finished rewatching Dr Strange just there as well. Though it's my 4th time watching it (3rd in the last month) and I still really enjoy it. It's a good introduction to the character for people like me who have never even heard of Dr Strange and the movie is just good fun to watch. I love Wong, hope we see plenty more of him in any movie Strange is in.
Anyway, IW Tomorrow, yay :D
Anyway, IW Tomorrow, yay :D
Oh and I give the film credit for giving some weight to Strange killing a dude. It's all well and good for Cap or Thor to blow some fools away, they're trained soldiers and warriors, but even in Iron Man 1, Stark blasts guys with zero remorse despite only being a businessman civilian. Strange actually being disturbed that he'd killed a man and broken his oath as a doctor added a lot (while not bogging the whole film down). They also avoided that thing the Tomb Raider reboot (game not film) had where it tried to make it all this traumatic thing for her to kill a guy and she's all freaked out and five minutes later she's over it and moving down dozens of people. Strange goes out of his way to not kill anyone and wins through talking and trickery rather than fighting, it's refreshing.
I was amazed at how well the Russos balanced humor and emotion. There isn't a single inappropriately placed joke in the movie. When the movie wants to deliver tension, emotion or sadness it does so with supreme effectiveness. The audience was really into the movie, most jokes got big laughs, other moments left the whole theater literally speechless. Thanos is incredible throughout the film, the CGI on him is jaw dropping with very few exceptions.
So if they can't do Dr Doom for the next story arc, who should they do?
Or will they hint towards Dr Doom but not show him until the rights are fully transferred?
Or will they hint towards Dr Doom but not show him until the rights are fully transferred?
I expect the next big thing wont be revealed until a few movies into phase 4, kike Thanos in Avengers 1.
I would guess they might be non committal for a bit while the FOX stuff gets sorted out since that opens up so many more options
If Disney bought Marvel in 2009, then how come Paramount is in the beginning credits?
Friday at 9 AM, and then 7:30 PM. We must stay spoiler free together!
Their distribution deal still ran for a few more years.
Well with the standard hyper jump why wouldn't they be able to?
I got that impression, yeah, I've been left with the notion that the 9 Realms are ostensibly either just the nine planets Odin ruled over or are 9 planets linked by some kind of cosmic bond.
In the comics it makes it seem like the Realms are different planes of reality that can't be easily reached.
Yeah, in Ragnarok Helda says that Odin stopped at 9, so if he had kept going, all those planets would probably be part of the realms.
It is weird though because we have seen many more different kinds of aliens than just 9 so there has to be more out there. Maybe it's just the ones Odin ruled over?
Watching Winter Soldier and just noticed when Bucky says he knows Cap and Pierce says wipe him and start over the metal clamps holding him down has 2 on his normal arm and only 1 on the metal arm. I'd think it'd be the other way around as his metal arm is way stronger lol
Stark is already in that mindset. He is developing weapons that kill thousands of people but for the good of his view of society.
"I prefer a weapon you only have to fire once"
Distribution deal ended the year Thor 2 was released.
Right there with you.
I'm pretty much just signing off of all Internet starting tomorrow. God of War time.
That's exactly what it is. In Ragnarok, Hela states that she wanted to keep conquering after Odin decided to stop at 9 worlds. That's what drove them apart in the first place.
To me it seems they are connected by interdimensional wormholes like the Devil's Anus.
The bifrost is able to create one at any point.
If Thor was able to travel to Earth in a Spaceship, you'd think he would have at the end of the first movie. Or done it in Avengers, instead of having Odin use dark magic.
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Don't they do that every year? How often does Infinity War happen? What's wrong with you?
Bronx is a Jets fan and they're going to draft a quarterback so this one is especially important
Exactly! Having our first good QB since Namath is MY Infinity Gauntlet.
Why would the alignment of planets cause such huge gravitational anomalies every 5000 years?
Especially over a distance of 13 billion light years.
My theory is they are interdimensional multiverses that exist parallel to each other. The way Asguard is shaped defies the laws of physics of Midguard.
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I'm one of the biggest football fans around here, but this is a no-brainer. What's the problem lmao
Ok so since Kree told me to post in here;
Sooo, that was a heck of a ride - only one end credit sequence with a pretty vague (if you don't know the logo) reference to Captain Marvel.
I'm guessing BTTF2-esque/time-related shenanigans will be the fix to all of this - judging from Nick Fury's SuperPager and Peter's choice comment at the beginning of the movie about "From the future, I thought you knew that?" *proceeds to get hit by tree*
Adam Warlock is probably being left to GotG3 by the complete lack of him in this movie.
Also, the fight scene between Tony and Thanos seemed to have time-related hijinks going on too.
I'm guessing BTTF2-esque/time-related shenanigans will be the fix to all of this - judging from Nick Fury's SuperPager and Peter's choice comment at the beginning of the movie about "From the future, I thought you knew that?" *proceeds to get hit by tree*
Adam Warlock is probably being left to GotG3 by the complete lack of him in this movie.
Also, the fight scene between Tony and Thanos seemed to have time-related hijinks going on too.
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I did not tell you to post here. Post in the Infinity War OT. LOL
It's open spoilers in there.
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