Marvel's Avengers Embrace Your Powers trailer, pre order details

Falus

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Will probably buy thanksfully I can buy on us shop

it’s 70/80/90e for the 3editions
It’s 60/70/80$ in USA

I can get the deluxe 80/75€.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Revisionist history? I'm speaking for myself...I'm not speaking for any community. All of the EA Star Wars games have looked great before launch and has sold as much. Most of the people here that thought the Battlefront games would bomb was because of bitterness against GaaS, and comparisons against older Battlefront games which alot of people playing games now did not play.

Plus remember everyone...we've never seen Square Enix market ANYTHING well. Good luck overcoming that bad first impression that most of this thread sees.
Like the bad impression Ffxv had its entire run to release? And went on to sell 8-9 mil and ppl still call it the first ff ever? I’m all for not liking the look of a game but sometimes ppl on here take it way to the extremes and project a lot. It’s the avengers by a Known studio coming in the fall with multiplayer..
 

Serene

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Yes, just like most comic book movies sell well...didn't prevent Justice League from flopping because everyone could see from a mile away that it is trash. We've only had 3 "big IP games" I believe (the 2 Star Wars games, Spider-Man...and I'll throw in Batman even though I'm not sure when the last one of those released)...those all looked infinitely better than this game has in even its best form.

And to be clear, I think I speak for everyone saying this game will flop, we mean that this game will not break even for Square Enix. No way.
Wait, you are moving the goalposts. We went from "look at the other big movie properties that flopped as games" to "well none of them flopped but other movies did!"
 

Akita One

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Like the bad impression Ffxv had its entire run to release? And went on to sell 8-9 mil and ppl still call it the first ff ever? I’m all for not liking the look of a game but sometimes ppl on here take it way to the extremes and project a lot. It’s the avengers by a Known studio coming in the fall with multiplayer..
The FFXV game...from one of the top brands in gaming, and the lead franchise of a whole genre? Comparing this to a hyper-generic beat 'em up...

But hey...people were told after Star Wars: The Force Awakens that there would not be another movie in the trilogy that would come even close to the ticket sales it had...but oh well, guess we'll see!

Wait, you are moving the goalposts. We went from "look at the other big movie properties that flopped as games" to "well none of them flopped but other movies did!"
How is that moving the goalposts? The point is, the strength of an IP means little for the sales success of a new product.

Good movies do well. Bad movies don't....good games do well...bad games don't...don't know why you are trying to over-complicate it.
 

Neonep

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I wish instead of doing an Avengers game, they focused on just doing an Iron Man or Captain America game.
 

caliph95

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I wish instead of doing an Avengers game, they focused on just doing an Iron Man or Captain America game.
Or just a Black Panther
But really Captain America he's easier to make a game with than Iron man just do Arkham but with shield combos

I'm cautiously optimistic but I'm worried the gameplay might get "diluted" as a result of the gaas elements and multiple characters
 

Serene

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How is that moving the goalposts? The point is, the strength of an IP means little for the sales success of a new product.

Good movies do well. Bad movies don't....good games do well...bad games don't...don't know why you are trying to over-complicate it.
Because you tried to point to other movie to game transitions not doing well then when I asked for recent examples you switched your reasoning to other movies instead because you have no examples in games to point to.
 
Oct 17, 2019
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No it wouldn't. If the game sold 10 million it would be a big success. If the game sold 5-9 million, it likely would still be a success. And I'm not even including any type of extra revenue generated by GaaS DLC and microtransactions. Obviously it's all dependent on the overall production and marketing budget of the game. Spider-Man was a massive success and the fact it was exclusive to one platform makes it all the more impressive.
Agreed to a degree, but Avengers, as an IP, has very large sales potential. If the game reaches 9 million, sure they game is very profitable, but it would have failed to reach it's potential success. Spider-man has shown Marvel just how much their IPs can climb sales wise when the right publisher-developer combo is in charge.

Avengers will make A LOT of money... But I don't buy for second that Marvel won't side eye SE and Crystal if they fail to launch a multiplatform Avengers game to similar success to the PS4 exclusive Spider-man. That does not mean that the game wouldnt be a big success, but it does mean that the benchmark that Spider-man set was not cleared by a multiplatform Avengers, which looks bad.
 

Fuchs

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I'm sure this game will be decent at its worst, but damn, the artstyle couldn't look much blander.
 

litebrite

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Agreed to a degree, but Avengers, as an IP, has very large sales potential. If the game reaches 9 million, sure they game is very profitable, but it would have failed to reach it's potential success. Spider-man has shown Marvel just how much their IPs can climb sales wise when the right publisher-developer combo is in charge.

Avengers will make A LOT of money... But I don't buy for second that Marvel won't side eye SE and Crystal if they fail to launch a multiplatform Avengers game to similar success to the PS4 exclusive Spider-man. That does not mean that the game wouldnt be a big success, but it does mean that the benchmark that Spider-man set was not cleared by a multiplatform Avengers.
Ok, given that context I can see what you mean.
 

oliverandm

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This game seems like such a safe bet all around, and I just think that's exactly the opposite of what superheroes need right now. Quit the realism. Run wild.

I'm certain it will be fair, and it will likely sell a lot due to its name, but it doesn't look half as entertaining as Spider-man, and I can't fathom how that's possible. Look forward to being wrong, hopefully!
 

Bing147

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yep. Also there’s 0 chance that there’s just these six as playable.

disregarding the characters that will be added as free DLC later, there will assuredly be playable characters in the base game that they haven’t revealed yet. If I had to guess, Hawkeye, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, and Captain Marvel would all be likely.
Very likely. Which just ups the challenge level here. Each character is almost like making an entirely different action game, if you want them to actually feel like the very different characters they are at least.
 
Oct 24, 2019
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Almost all the games you play have GaaS elements. It's not a big deal.
Then clarify what you mean regarding these DC projects please. Because GaaS is heavily associated with things like Destiny, Anthem, etc.

Even though having expansions & DLCs through season passes is technically GaaS, everyone knows that's not what the implication of the word is
 

Mars People

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They really shouldn't of gone for the mega realistic style, it just doesn't look right.

Its also weird that the roster is the movie avengers, plus Ms Marvel randomly.
 

Leviathan

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I'm really surprised that so many people in this thread are so unused to the idea of comic book characters looking different from artist to artist. The MCU is just one take on the roster.
 

Mars People

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I'm really surprised that so many people in this thread are so unused to the idea of comic book characters looking different from artist to artist. The MCU is just one take on the roster.
People aren't surprised at them looking different, they are surprised at them looking kinda bad.
Especially when MUA3 has come out so recently and looks very good in the character designs.
 

dgrdsv

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Still hoping that this one will have good SP campaign. If not then I'm out.

The game will probably set some records in sales for SE though, being Marvel's and Avengers and all.

I'm still thinking that Disney of all companies would be much better off creating their own game development arm instead of relying on 3rd parties and thus robbing us of gaming IPs we like or new IPs altogether.
 

Leviathan

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People aren't surprised at them looking different, they are surprised at them looking kinda bad.
Especially when MUA3 has come out so recently and looks very good in the character designs.
Okay, but I'm not really surprised by those people. I'm surprised by the ones who explicitly said it was the fact that they look different, going back to even the first page. I think those are the ones I mentioned.
 

SageShinigami

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Wait, you are moving the goalposts. We went from "look at the other big movie properties that flopped as games" to "well none of them flopped but other movies did!"
His argument was garbage from the beginning. "Anthem flopped!" No. Let's be clear: Anthem is a bad game. Anthem didn't review well critically. Anthem did not "flop", it was one of the best selling games of 2019. And that was with the game being a bug filled mess.

If Avengers isn't bug filled and doesn't have a completely empty MTX shop (Anthem), it'll sell plenty.
 

Qudi

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Prediction: This will sell less than Ps4's Spiderman. The cutscenes look super bland and the overall design looks off.
 

Keldroc

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This really feels like it's gonna flop hard.
Yeah I remember when people here said that about Jedi Fallen Order for months, too.

The mainstream audience (you know, the one that actually matters in terms of sales) will have no fucking clue on any of the "problems" being raised in this thread. It'll sell just fine.
 
Oct 24, 2019
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I'm really surprised that so many people in this thread are so unused to the idea of comic book characters looking different from artist to artist. The MCU is just one take on the roster.
Thank you.

People don't blink when Spidey or Batman look different from the multiple movie incarnations we've had, but god forbid Iron Man doesn't have the exact same facial hair or voice as RDJ or Cap doesn't have the exact same look as Chris Evans.
 

SageShinigami

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Still hoping that this one will have good SP campaign. If not then I'm out.

The game will probably set some records in sales for SE though, being Marvel's and Avengers and all.

I'm still thinking that Disney of all companies would be much better off creating their own game development arm instead of relying on 3rd parties and thus robbing us of gaming IPs we like or new IPs altogether.
Supposedly it's got a 12+ hour story campaign. 30 if you do all the side content.
 
Oct 24, 2019
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Poor Hawkeye, getting the boot from the "Main Six". How many characters is this game supposed to have?
Unknown, but certainly more than 6. I'm positive they have playable characters they haven't shown off yet, including Hawkeye and probably Black Panther and Captain Marvel too.

Not to mention all the DLC heroes that they'll be adding as time goes on
 

est1992

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Then clarify what you mean regarding these DC projects please. Because GaaS is heavily associated with things like Destiny, Anthem, etc.

Even though having expansions & DLCs through season passes is technically GaaS, everyone knows that's not what the implication of the word is
You answered your own question.
 

Mars People

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Have they even shown any of the villains yet?
I'm kinda morbidly curious what they are going to look like.
 

Spidey

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I'm beyond hyped for this but then I love Kamala and I honestly view this as "Ms Marvel and the Avengers" with her being the protagonist.
 

SageShinigami

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I don't know how the game itself will turn out but if this shit doesn't sell well I'm bumping this thread and roasting all of you.
Good luck with this. Actually, no. First quantify what "sells well" means. I don't want this shit selling 4m copies and you bumping this thread to go "See, it didn't do THAT great".

12 is more than fine, no need for 30 hours of "go fetch this from the same place again" side "content".
Eh. 12 hours would be extremely disappointing for me if the side content isn't good.
 

I KILL PXLS

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People aren't surprised at them looking different, they are surprised at them looking kinda bad.
Especially when MUA3 has come out so recently and looks very good in the character designs.
I really don't think that's the case. We wouldn't have comments like "bootleg/porn Avengers" if it was just about costume designs. It's the realistic art style coupled with faces that aren't the actors, along with an aesthetic that tries to mimic the MCU's functional costume design. These costumes aren't my favorite designs or anything (and I do think Cap's is straight up bad), but they're not nearly bad enough alone to warrant the negative reaction people have had to the "look" of the game.
 
Oct 17, 2019
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Means nothing in the long run, but people are not having it at all in the comment section to the trailer. Outside of that, it just seems like the marketing is just not landing with a lot of people.
 

shaowebb

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That Thor outfit looks like bad cosplay. Literally looks like plates glued to craft foam. Way it fits somehow hides physique instead of complimenting it like the film suits too.

Faces are fine at least but damn, its like a Gears of War dude attempted super hero stuff and didnt get how to make outfits meant to form fit look cool.