Marvel's Avengers unveiled w/ Trailer + Details Inside (May 15, 2020, Story-Driven, 4 Player Co-Op, GaaS, Eidos x Crystal Dynamics, PS4/X1/PC/Stadia)

ieandrew

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Oct 27, 2017
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For a game attempting to sell itself a cinematic experience, it wasn't 'shot' very well either. The conversation 5 years later with long-hair Tony was framed like a Mass Effect choose-your-own-adventure story, not a movie.
 

Alienous

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Oct 25, 2017
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You would think given how bad his hair looks that they would have Thor wearing his helmet throughout. It would also be another element to adopt to be distinct from the movies.
 

mrtastee

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Oct 29, 2017
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People still falling for impressions lmfao. That trailer was FUGLY. Come the hell on people, have higher standards.
 

ZattMurdock

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Oct 26, 2017
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The game director and the combat director made another Q&A:


Full transcript by adj_noun :

Transcript:

What is this game? People still want clarification on the structure of the game.

It is a single player narrative driven cinematic game. But it's a little different. It's a hybrid. You're introduced to this world on the events of A-Day. San Francisco's devastated. The Avengers are to blame. They disband and there's bickering amongst them.

You get that setep and you journey through the progression of particular characters that progress the story forward to see how the Avengers fare. As you go through the story, depending on where you are in the narrative, you unlock certain characters and you can then go off on a tangent with those characters, or with your own choice of characters, and play these missions that are all tied to pushing this story forward.

You can do so by yourself, or you can do so in groups of four. And then you can rejoin the narrative and push that story forward as well.

You can also choose to say, 'you know, I've got the setup, I really just want to play with my friends, and I can run off and play in that world with four friends as the Avengers of our choice'. Or I could say, 'you know what, I'm going to go straight down the story, not do any missions, just go through all the story in a linear fashion. I can play the entire thing, single player and co-op, by myself, and enjoy the experience of the Avengers'.

Why aren't these the MCU characters?

We set out to create an original Avengers story. We wanted our characters to feel like they belong in our world, that they're part of our story, that their choices, even their uniforms are all based on our story. They're at the peak, they make this awful mistake, and then they fall, and we get to build them up.

We cast them differently, we chose them differently, we drew from the Marvel comic books along with our friends at Marvel to get the best solution for this story.

How many superheroes will be added to the game post-launch?

Can't be specific, but we intend to at regular intervals release new superheroes and new regions for free. No additional cost. We're excited. Marvel's Avengers roster, the potential for it is crazy. We're such huge fans. We're combing through eighty years of history to find those characters.

And the multiplayer story in that world is so big, it's so vast. It's escalating threats. You get to team up with your friends and defend Earth from escalating disasters. It allows for many characters to be introduced.

Can you talk about the diversity of the regions that you'll be pulling from?

The Avengers is a global team. They investigate threats that are all over the world. We're about finding the areas we want to go to that are diverse, that are as different as possible, that provide us different gameplay elements, different ways to use the team's very unique traversals. Every character on the team moves in such a different way that we want to have enough variety in our environments to really make use of the character's abilities.

Can you control the characters freely or are you limited in movement? For example, seeing Iron Man fly on the Golden Gate Bridge.

In that Iron Man segment, it's part of the single-player campaign focus, which are more specifically linear sequences. We also have different areas which are much more open, which allow characters the full freedom of movement, the full freedom to use their unique traversal mechanics.

In the single player campaign, on these missions, you'll be able to fly around. In that Iron Man sequence, you can fly around. Of course, you're limited to the bridge at that point, but you're still flying around. You have a very specific objective at that point.

Does gear affect the stats of your character?

We have both cosmetic stuff for the characters like costumes, stuff that you can customize fully that does not affect the character's gameplay. And then we have a pretty robust gear and progression system that does affect the character's gameplay.

It was really important for us to separate those two because we wanted players to be able to look the way they wanted, but also to play the way they wanted.

Don't pay to win!

Can you play as any character at any time in single player, or will there be specific chapters tied to specific characters?

The character you're playing is based on the narrative. It's the best character to push that narrative forward. If you were to go through the story in a linear fashion, you will be playing as the story dictates.

However, you can still go off and do these tangents as your chosen character, whoever your favorite hero is, and level that hero up and do cool missions with that hero.

You can say, 'I don't want to play this mission, I don't want to play as Hulk, I want to play as Black Widow.' You can go off and play as Black Widow and learn and feel what it's like to be Widow in those missions. And then come back to the main narrative which dictates what you play as.

Will space be an explorable region or featured in the campaign?

Stay tuned.

Will there be free roaming?

You can roam freely in the larger based missions.

Will there be vehicles?

Our characters have built-in traversal mechanics that are so unique to them. They move the way you expect them to move, they move through the environment using whatever fits the character best. Let's leave it at that.
 

Sabrina Rei

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm not the target audience for this but I think it looks pretty dope. The character designs aren't wowing me but maybe when I play it I'll get a better feel for what they're going for? I think it makes perfect sense to control which Avenger the player controls and when so that the levels can be tailored to that style of play giving them unique perspective. Maybe Tony's level will have more verticality? Maybe Widow's more infiltration? Maybe Hulk's more SMASH? Would it be fun to tackle a layout built for stealth with Hulk? Undeniably but it would also be over very quickly. XD
 
Jun 4, 2019
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This guy saw a gameplay demo, he's far from impressed. And honestly, what he says about it doesn't sound all that great at all. But still, I need to see it for myself first.

 

ZattMurdock

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Oct 26, 2017
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This guy saw a gameplay demo, he's far from impressed. And honestly, what he says about it doesn't sound all that great at all. But still, I need to see it for myself first.

Edit: Removing link of misogynistic toxic asshole.


Seriously tho, he seems pissed because he waited 3 hours and didn't get to play the game, but watch someone playing the game. And seriously, calling "this game is trash" from watching a 25 minutes pre-alpha demo is rich.
 
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Seriously tho, he seems pissed because he waited 3 hours and didn't get to play the game, but watch someone playing the game. And seriously, calling "this game is trash" from watching a 25 minutes pre-alpha demo is rich.
He said it in a earlier video as well that this is a kid's game and I'm like.... ehhhh... Ok.

Definitely need to see it for ourselves and yep, he clearly was pissed about waiting 3 hours. 3 hours is pretty standard, I've been to several GC's through the years in Germany and that's really nothing new. I remember a crazy long row of people just for a Mafia II trailer, lol.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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This guy saw a gameplay demo, he's far from impressed. And honestly, what he says about it doesn't sound all that great at all. But still, I need to see it for myself first.

Please watch this guy's other videos on his channel, then come back and tell us if you will still listen to his opinion.
 

DMVfan123

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Oct 25, 2017
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Listening to The Amazing Lucas' opinions
Was harassing Insomniac devs just because of a fucking suit in Spider-Man PS4
 

Sense

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Oct 25, 2017
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Easy Allies impressions shared some Taskmaster details where it's clear he's a different version than Spider-Man PS4's. Avengers version has him as an ex-SHIELD member.
Isn’t it possible that is from the past since there is a 5 years later moment in the trailer? So Spider-Man could have shown a taskmaster that is much later in the timeline.
 

Nakenorm

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Oct 26, 2017
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This guy saw a gameplay demo, he's far from impressed. And honestly, what he says about it doesn't sound all that great at all. But still, I need to see it for myself first.

Dude's seem to be a racist, misogynistic douche.
 

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
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From what I've read, the closed-doors demo is a bit too scripted and by-the-book for my tastes, but it's probably just the opening tutorial sequence. Hopefully they show off a gameplay demo that is more representative of the actual game soon.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Why would you subjected me to that, what we have ever done to you haha? :(

Holy shit at this bullshit misogynistic The Last Jedi review. What a fucking entitled asshole.
Hey, I didn't post the link in here, but I guess the other user was a "victim" of the random youtube recommendations algorithm as well.
I remember this guy for such brilliant videos as
Straight Pride Parade is AWESOME
buahahahaha
 

€pcott

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Oct 25, 2017
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There’s just something off about the faces and hair to the characters, not to mention Capt’s suit looks like SWAT armor.

And then theres this...




Widow looks like a young Kate Mulgrew, but I guess that’s not a bad thing (except for those soulless eyes).
 

caliph95

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Oct 25, 2017
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This guy saw a gameplay demo, he's far from impressed. And honestly, what he says about it doesn't sound all that great at all. But still, I need to see it for myself first.

I don't like what I've seen of this game but let's not post Amazing Lucas and take him seriously
 
Oct 26, 2017
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GameXplain was super unimpressed and Kotaku seemed not that impressed.

Both think the dialog was hideously bad with Kotaku pointing out that one of the quips assassinates Tony Stark's character by stating that Tony Stark didn't read the mission reports.


 

JaseC64

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Oct 25, 2017
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They should just release actual gameplay already.

Ok it's in early still then why are people playing it at e3? If it's super secretive then dont let anyone play it and say there is only the teaser from the SE show available.

If it's a bit rough then dont let anyone play. It's just killing any hype and we are getting really mixed opinions instead of making our own.
 

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
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GameXplain was super unimpressed and Kotaku seemed not that impressed.

Both think the dialog was hideously bad with Kotaku pointing out that one of the quips assassinates Tony Stark's character by stating that Tony Stark didn't read the mission reports.
I was expecting Avengers to be a contender for game of the show, but it seems too divisive for that.
 

ezekial45

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Oct 25, 2017
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GameSpot impressions

I do like what this superhero team-up game is trying to accomplish, but it seems like it's retreading ground that's already been covered by other games. It also doesn't help that the style and designs of the heroes come off as somewhat outdated and unflattering. In a lot of ways, the new Avengers game gave me similar vibes from the PS3/360-era of licensed Marvel games, from the design and visual standpoint. Still, I enjoyed the spectacle and scale that was shown off in the demo. Though this section focused on a linear level, the full game plans to feature an array of missions that open up and can be taken on at your leisure---and that's something I'm still looking forward to seeing.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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They should just release actual gameplay already.

Ok it's in early still then why are people playing it at e3? If it's super secretive then dont let anyone play it and say there is only the teaser from the SE show available.

If it's a bit rough then dont let anyone play. It's just killing any hype and we are getting really mixed opinions instead of making our own.
People aren't playing it at e3 other than Crystal Dynamics.
 

DrBo42

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Oct 25, 2017
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The melee repulsor Iron Man attacks look neat. Cap combat looked kinda rough, not flowing well but the direction is what I expected here.
 

ElliesKnife

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Apr 7, 2018
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From what I've read, the closed-doors demo is a bit too scripted and by-the-book for my tastes, but it's probably just the opening tutorial sequence. Hopefully they show off a gameplay demo that is more representative of the actual game soon.
People had the exact same complaints about Spider-Man. All E3 demos are very scripted. And this is clearly early in the game.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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People had the exact same complaints about Spider-Man. All E3 demos are very scripted. And this is clearly early in the game.
The think with Avengers is that it's incredibly unclear what the core game will actually be about.

People knew that Spider-Man would be something like Spider-Man 2 and Batman Arkham City, Avengers' core gameplay is...?

Like, is this game going to be like Destiny most of the time...?

If so, how heavy with the loot focus be?

What's the loot system like if so?

How does combat work with multiple Avengers at once?

How is this game monetized?


These are hugely important questions (and could make up like 90-95% of the content of the game if this game is like Destiny) and Crystal Dynamics hasn't even really gestured at an answer.
 

Alienous

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Oct 25, 2017
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That really isn't a flattering leak. With the visuals and spectacle rendered moot you can kind of get a sense that the combat between characters will be the same core accented with abilities, which is to be expected I suppose. The difference between Captain America and Thor seemed like the difference between Kratos unarmed and with the Leviathan Axe in God of War, for instance. That said the Hulk seemed unique to the others.
 
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ElliesKnife

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Apr 7, 2018
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The think with Avengers is that it's incredibly unclear what the core game will actually be about.

People knew that Spider-Man would be something like Spider-Man 2 and Batman Arkham City, Avengers' core gameplay is...?

Like, is this game going to be like Destiny most of the time...?

If so, how heavy with the loot focus be?

What's the loot system like if so?

How does combat work with multiple Avengers at once?

How is this game monetized?


These are hugely important questions (and could make up like 90-95% of the content of the game if this game is like Destiny) and Crystal Dynamics hasn't even really gestured at an answer.
I agree, they should’ve had a better game plan to explain the core game better. This was a bad reveal simply because it leaves more questions than answers. But I’m just referring to the scripted and linear nature of the demo.
 

€pcott

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Hmmm... IGN vid went up 13 min ago saying main campaign is single player only. But once you finish a mission, side missions open up that are co-op (online only).

When comparisons to Destiny were made, I thought the entire campaign was co-op. Not sire I’m liking this.
 

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
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Hmmm... IGN vid went up 13 min ago saying main campaign is single player only. But once you finish a mission, side missions open up that are co-op (online only).

When comparisons to Destiny were made, I thought the entire campaign was co-op. Not sire I’m liking this.
No idea why they're marketing this as a GaaS if that's the case. Sounds more like a solid single-player third-person action game and optional co-op missions on the side to me, and that type of messaging would go over better with people probably
 
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caliph95

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Oct 25, 2017
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No idea why they're marketing this as a GaaS if that's the case. Sounds more like a solid single-player third-person action game w/ the Avengers and optional co-op missions on the side to me, and that type of messaging would go over better with people probably
This really has been a mess of a reveal

I wish they've been a lot more clear about the game