Marvel's Avengers unveiled w/ Trailer + Details Inside (May 15, 2020, Story-Driven, 4 Player Co-Op, GaaS, Eidos x Crystal Dynamics, PS4/X1/PC/Stadia)

PlanetSmasher

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It's just the intro, from the trailer you can already see Hulk vs Abomination as at least another boss battle
Right. I'm just saying you usually put your best foot forward for your first boss, since it's the one EVERYBODY's gonna fight. Black Widow having a wimpy kick fight against Taskmaster is not really best foot forward.
 

EdibleKnife

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The lack of creativity is stunning. You make a game called MARVEL'S AVENGERS and it focuses solely on the four white dudes and one white woman from the Avengers movie from seven years ago, looking almost exactly like their movie counterparts. Super bad look as the MCU continues to diversify.
Are they planning to feature more Avengers or have they confirmed that what we see is all the characters? Because it would be a damn bummer just to ape the MCU's core crew. Hell I'd just be happy for Black Panther but hoping for Monica Rambeau as well.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Are they planning to feature more Avengers or have they confirmed that what we see is all the characters? Because it would be a damn bummer just to ape the MCU's core crew. Hell I'd just be happy for Black Panther but hoping for Monica Rambeau as well.
There will be a couple more, but I wouldn't expect any roster deep cuts beyond Kamala. This game is designed to be as safe as humanly possible.
 

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Are they planning to feature more Avengers or have they confirmed that what we see is all the characters? Because it would be a damn bummer just to ape the MCU's core crew. Hell I'd just be happy for Black Panther but hoping for Monica Rambeau as well.
The game is designed as gaas where they'll keep releasing new heroes and location after the game launched.

I'm not sure of the current core 5 avenger is all there is in the game when it launched, or will there be other unlockable avengers you can get in the launch. We had teaser for AntMan, but I'm not sure if he'll be unlockable at launch or future dlc
 

EdibleKnife

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There will be a couple more, but I wouldn't expect any roster deep cuts beyond Kamala. This game is designed to be as safe as humanly possible.
God damn. You'd think with the revival of the Ultimate Alliance series they would try breaking the mold. I know the films are popular but I can't imagine having the licence and not going as bold as possible for a unique roster. Maybe they aren't taking risks due to mandate from Disney/Marvel but it's lame either way.

The game is designed as gaas where they'll keep releasing new heroes and location after the game launched.

I'm not sure of the current core 5 avenger is all there is in the game when it launched, or will there be other unlockable avengers you can get in the launch. We had teaser for AntMan, but I'm not sure if he'll be unlockable at launch or future dlc
They said that as a live service you're getting free dlcs characters over time

Which doesn't make that hopeful because I'm worried that the characters may end up be samey and free sounds too good to be true but I'm waiting and seeing
Ah! That's actually good to know. Gonna try and stay optimistic in that case. Praying that they're not too samey. Kamala, Tamara Devoux (Captain Universe), Dr. Voodoo, Miss America, Robbie Reyes (Ghost Rider). The game can have a lot of diversity and seperate itslelf a lot from the MCU with some honest effort.
 
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caliph95

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Are they planning to feature more Avengers or have they confirmed that what we see is all the characters? Because it would be a damn bummer just to ape the MCU's core crew. Hell I'd just be happy for Black Panther but hoping for Monica Rambeau as well.
They said that as a live service you're getting free dlcs characters over time

Which doesn't make that hopeful because I'm worried that the characters may end up be samey and free sounds too good to be true but I'm waiting and seeing
 

Callibretto

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They said that as a live service you're getting free dlcs characters over time

Which doesn't make that hopeful because I'm worried that the characters may end up be samey and free sounds too good to be true but I'm waiting and seeing
I don't think we should be wary about character feeling samey. They seem to be proud that the current 5 character feel very distinct from each other. At least I imagine they're aware and will try to differentiate how future dlc character will play compared to other.

I can see there being archetype or some kind of class. War Machine play similar as IronMan just with different loadout to differentiate. Gun wielder like winter soldier may play similar with Black Widow but again with different weapon and abilities etc
 

jdstorm

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Looking at the gameplay I can see the campaign being solid. If you're doing mission as Black Widow, then a mission as Iron-Man, then one as Hulk - all tailored to their strengths - that seems like a solid setup for a good action game. In my mind I'm picturing a structure like DMC5.

It's the co-op missions I'm struggling to see playing out in my head. I'm imagining Destiny-like areas, but I'm wondering how navigation will work between the characters. Maybe Captain America and Black Widow get to summon bikes? Or I suppose it's more likely abilities like flying will be closer to hovering above ground.

But the core story mode being designed for a single-player leaves me optimistic about that part of the game.
Think less Destiny and more Mass Effect or Final Fantasy XV

A team of 4 always goes in (vs 3 in Mass Effect) 1 player controlled and 3 AI. Given flying heroes there will be more vertically but that seems to be the general structure. The party travels around together and everything is story focused aside from the general busywork that most big ARPGs have
 

ArmGunar

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Crystal Dynamics: The Avengers is the biggest thing we've ever done

A great interview with some good insights

5 studios are working on the game
  • Crystal Dynamics (at Redwood Shores)
  • Crystal North West (a new studio in Bellevue)
  • Nixxes (partner in Netherlands)
  • Eidos Montreal
  • Square Enix Japan (tech group)
"We've literally had to put these five studios together and say: 'We're going this far. Tomb Raider, awesome. Rise of the Tomb Raider, even better. Shadow of the Tomb Raider... and it's like no, we're going beyond the boundaries'.
"We've had to go hire experts like Shaun Escayg, who is our creative director. He told stories for Uncharted and The Last of Us [at Naughty Dog], we needed him to help tell this story. Dave Fifield was a game director who worked on Halo and Call of Duty, we needed him to help us with multiplayer. We go around and look at what we need. Who are the experts? Vince Napoli, he's our lead combat designer, he just did God of War, come help us with the combat. We cherry-picked the best of the best and said: 'Let's put this together in a new way for something bigger than we've ever done'."
"Marvel showed up and said, 'What do you want to do?'," Amos explains. "That's how it started. They really looked at us and said, 'Crystal, you guys are experts at making games, we're experts at The Avengers. What do you want to do? What's the original take you want to do on visuals, on story?' But they are true north. We work with Bill Rosemann, their VP of creative, and ask whether Tony [Stark] would say this or not, would Hulk do this particular move or not, does this gear make sense?
In film, the majority of the Marvel movies connect together to form one huge universe. Avengers is the second big-budget Marvel game to arrive after last year's hit Spider-Man. In the demo, there was even a character [Taskmaster] who appeared in both games. Amos stopped short of denying the existence of a Marvel Interactive Universe, although Spider-Man's influence has been felt.
"Every game has an influence on us," he concludes. "We look at any great game and ask what we can steal from them. Looking at Spider-Man, it was close to our hearts for sure, but think of all the games that have shipped in the last ten months. We'll steal from anybody who is the best. We look at it with Marvel. They're very savvy. They know what's going on in their world, from movies to shows to games. They help keep us abreast of what is going on and what's the right and wrong ways for us to reference each other.

"At the end of the day, this is Avengers. We're building The Avengers universe. This is our thing."
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