should I post this gif again? yeah I think I will
man, this game looks so freaking good. someone should edit it with him dodging a puddle
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Marvel's Spider-Man: The Complete Digital Foundry Analysis!
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man, this game looks so freaking good. someone should edit it with him dodging a puddle
Details were removed, others added.
Some things look better, other things look worse. Removed geometry, but also added geometry elsewhere. Better textures and worse textures. Happens all the time with optimization and the inclusion of new features: things need to be rearranged.
I will say that I liked 2017 lighting, blueish tint and overall aesthetics better, though. Especially, not a fan of this warm yellow grading the retail seems to have.
From the review thread:
Photo mode is going to be nuts. Can't wait to see some sexy puddles
Honestly I couldn't tell if this was a scene from homecoming or the game?!?!!
Haha, I'm actually serious! The way the camera is chasing Spidey, you get the sense of speed because of the yellow construction beams on the left, and the pace at which he turns around, becomes conscious, and then focuses his eyes - honestly Hollywood level! I'm not surprised because a lot of video games have done some cool cut scenes that are comparable to films, but just cool to see it in this!
The textures really for me with the detail. It makes me think about what Spider-Man 2 on PS5 will be like (I mean, we all know it's happening). Do you think they'll go to a new location? Or will they take their current NYC, and just enhance it - even better textures and lighting, way more detailed interiors, more enter-able buildings, etc. I really feel like I'd prefer the latter than for them to waste time making a whole new open world from scratch.
It seems people really like the homecoming suit, judging by how often it pops up here. lol. Makes sense, it strikes the best balance between classic comic flair and the practical realism of the movies. It just looks more realistic than the red/white tech suit or whatever it's called.
There's just so much more small detail in the texture of the suit too. I'm thinking they must have borrowed from the actual CGI model/textures used for Homecomjng.
Damn the textures look nice. I can understand the appeal of the different lighting of the E3 build and those puddles did look sweet.
That being said and seeing some of those comparison shots I'm glad they scaled back on the puddles. I also prefer the new texture of the suit. I think it looks perfect.
Can't wait to unlock all the suits. Do we know how many there are in the entire game?
That being said and seeing some of those comparison shots I'm glad they scaled back on the puddles. I also prefer the new texture of the suit. I think it looks perfect.
Can't wait to unlock all the suits. Do we know how many there are in the entire game?
Spiderman |OT| Puddle of FUD
27
EDIT: Actually 28, they added a new one in the day 1 patch apparently.
EDIT: Actually 28, they added a new one in the day 1 patch apparently.
Sweet. I'm already dreading having to decide on a favorite. There will probably be one that looks the coolest but another one that comes with the best stats / skills and it will kill me.
You can use other suits skills in whatever suit you want (for example, Spider-Man's Noir power in Spider-Punk suit), no need to use a suit if you don't like the design (best decision ever, I think)
I'm one of the people who's not that big a fan of the "Stark" suit. With even a small amount of motion blur like walking slowly, almost all the web lines can blur because of how thin they are and it ends up looking so smooth that it looks like CG even when CG isn't being used. Despite being a billion dollar handout from Iron Man with Siri in it, the flat texture and smoothness of it make me think of a halloween costume but with expensive cosplayer eyes. Plus the spider on the chest is so small and oddly proportioned it looks a bit like he's Tick-Man tbh. For the live action suits I think TASM2 is my favorite.
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It is amazing that people have had such a narrow discussion about one or two scenes from a trailer rather than compare extended amounts of footage. From this, aside from the change with cube maps, I am not sure how anyone can see this is a downgrade...I mean, the lighting in the scenes some reference is nowhere near the most visually impressive scene shown in this footage. Couple with that, the lighting tech clearly has really changed anyway. Anyway, it seems it has been established that changes in the cloth appearance is artistic rather than technical. I can understand the preference for the 2017 representation of the suit...It seems a minor issue to me though...those scenes when John discusses the lighting in this game are utterly stunning. I think the baked lighting here is even nicer than AC Unity...very impressive.
Whoa, really? So suits have "slots" to equip abilities? That is fucking awesome!
Hype level rising even higher...
Got you covered brah :PFrom the review thread:
Photo mode is going to be nuts. Can't wait to see some sexy puddles
Spider-Man PS4 - Top 5 PUDDLES! (Downgrade?!) https://youtu.be/ejx6vX8FkYg
Yeah exactly. When you unlock a suit, you unlock the suit itself and the associated power, and each power can be mixed into any suit you want, no restrictions.
But it's not. You guys were wrong now you're grasping to straws.
Yeah, the material on the suit is simply superb.The suit and lighting in detail in photomode shots:
Dark1x Insomniac did an interview about their temporal injection method!
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2018/09/06/insomniac-interview-the-tech-behind-marvels-spider-man/
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2018/09/06/insomniac-interview-the-tech-behind-marvels-spider-man/
Interesting tidbit about HDR
Peculiar route to take! Excited to see it for myself!
Peculiar route to take! Excited to see it for myself!
It seems similar to what I was thinking. Cool. Also looks like we got the average resolution right at 1584p but we also counted above that and below 1440p
Glad they're opening up more about the technique and the improvements being made to it. It would be SO cool if this advanced version was used on every next-gen game.
I really want to see it used on a 60fps title, too. Would be perfect for a 60fps Resistance Collection.
Did you watch the whole analysis? I think he explains how they can view the image pre-injection
I did but I'm assuming in order to get the average resolution he had to pixel count pre injection frames
I believe OnRush uses a similar technique on the Pro, and it's 60fps.
I'm sure Dark1x would know if that's true.
Since Mods closed a thread i made. I might aswell repost it here.
Looks like it had way more height fog, and particles in the E3 2017 trailer. Also looks like it had better and more cinematic lighting and of course reflections. Watching the video in slo-mo gives it away.
Not really, DF missed/cherrypicked alot of things. This comparison is different and alot better. Its shot for shot.
You can literally watch it in slo-mo and compare each shot. For example the office running escape scene had lots of fire in E3 footage during the collapse but the final release version didn't. DF didn't mention that.
When you compare it shot by shot you realize the objects in the E3 2007 Footage and even the 2016 footage had more polygons/triangles.
Looks like it had way more height fog, and particles in the E3 2017 trailer. Also looks like it had better and more cinematic lighting and of course reflections. Watching the video in slo-mo gives it away.
Not really, DF missed/cherrypicked alot of things. This comparison is different and alot better. Its shot for shot.
You can literally watch it in slo-mo and compare each shot. For example the office running escape scene had lots of fire in E3 footage during the collapse but the final release version didn't. DF didn't mention that.
When you compare it shot by shot you realize the objects in the E3 2007 Footage and even the 2016 footage had more polygons/triangles.
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Ooh, interesting. I may have to grab that, especially given the positive reviews.
How do you have so much time left when you haven't even finished your Detroit demo yet?
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Back out of hiding for 2 months and instantly back to shitting up Spider-Man threads, that's dedication. May as well keep with tradition and ask how that Detroit scene is coming along!
Lol I don't know why some of y'all are still hung up on any downgrades. A big reason why downgrades are talked about these days is the shitshow that was the Watch Dogs reveal, and what that game really turned out to look like. There was a big difference, unlike what's going on here which appears to be super minimal.
But looking at spiderman, whatever differences there may be, the game looks PHENOMENAL on the tv. So it's like, who gives a shit what different time of day it was or what puddles may be missing, the game still looks great. May even feature the best looking urban open world game this gen (so far).
So it's really hard for me to care about any of this considering the way the end product looks.
But looking at spiderman, whatever differences there may be, the game looks PHENOMENAL on the tv. So it's like, who gives a shit what different time of day it was or what puddles may be missing, the game still looks great. May even feature the best looking urban open world game this gen (so far).
So it's really hard for me to care about any of this considering the way the end product looks.
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Pretty sure Digital Foundry is not a reliable source anymore. Sure, they have detailed analysis but like you said do cherry pick and probably in bed with some of these devs. Just look at their recent most recent analysis of Shenmue remake, it's a disaster.
IGN's comparison here does more than the DF bias video. Throwing in tech lingos around doesn't justify what happened between the demo and the final release, it just makes it that desperate to cover things up.
parody post, i hope?!? I bet it is,english is not my first language...
That's a shit thing to say. Dark1x has always done an excellent job in his videos, noticing things many people would miss. He isn't going to analyze every single frame of the damn game for you in a shot for shot comparison. Making accusations like you did above without proof is not cool.
