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Masashi Kishimoto new series, Samurai 8 is a dud (UP: Cancelled)

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AoM

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NeonZ said:
I mean, how could the sales drop even more? It seems like this is about the bottom for a series from a big name author published on Jump. It's published on a magazine with a circulation of millions and has been heavily promoted and yet barely sold more than 10k.
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With the novelty of the first two volumes (with the big promotion using all those pamphlets) having passed, it could easily drop more.

But if it can up the sales to at least 30k a volume, and get some more weekly readers in the magazine, it'll have a chance to go at least 2 years. Reminder that Hinomaru Sumo sold in the 20-40k range for its entire 5 year run (though it had much better reception from magazine readers). Obviously Jump was (and is) expecting more from Kishimoto, but it would buy him some time at least.
 
Mortemis

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The biggest thing I got from this thread is how good Kimetsu no Yaiba is doing. I expected it to get more popular after the incredible anime but god damn are those some really good sales.

As for Samurai 8, it's bad. It has way too much composition, the art is okay but the panels and pages are messy and hard to follow, and none of the characters seem interesting. The princess girl seemed wholesome, but the whole princess thing sounded so stupid that you couldn't have any hope in Kishimoto writing her well, especially after girl characters in Naruto.
 
MrBS

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I gave up however many chapters in that the story settled in. It was too busy visually and the story wasn't grabbing me at all.
 
DisasterMaster

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Honestly there's potential in it but boy oh boy does it have a slow start. And the art was pretty fucking messy though it's gotten better since then
 
thetrin

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Naruto was infuriating to read even with the editor's incredible saves, so it doesn't surprise me at all that Samurai 8 is a total dud. I can't imagine how much more I would hate that manga.
 
Mortemis

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Shout outs to the people that recommended Chainsaw Man here. It doesn't feel like something that would be on WSJ, but it's really good.
 
Lunar Wolf

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Flame Flamey said:
I'm not that invested in the series as a whole, but I'm actually kind of sad it will probably get axed, because I was waiting for Nanashi to come back, since I was interested in where Kishimoto was going to go with them. Though I have this suspicion that Kishimoto was made to drop them from the series.

I was hoping Kishimoto could pull off a well-done and successful arc for a trans character who's prominent, part of the main cast.
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Kishi should've done the easy thing and done a full blown manga on Sarada Uchiha.

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His Uchiha-boner could cancel out his passive misogyny.

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Alternatively, a series on Himawari Uzumaki and also give her Sage Mode and Shukaku.

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I can dream.
 
Callibretto

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Samurai 8 beginning is really rough, so many exposition about the lore, the samurai concept, etc. But it still has the emotional beat that make Naruto great in some chapters, character designs are great and the last few chapters has been really good imo.

One thing that I also like is that, other than slow early part with huge exposition, pacing for the manga now has been pretty quick. Only 20s chapters in and it feel like we already have a lot of story arc to get through, from Nanashi intro, Ann, Ata, Hachi backstory, and now battle royal where we speed through to top 100 in a single chapter
 
Mifec

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Exposition dumps after exposition dumps, busy art, no interesting characters. It's incredibly mediocre and no surprise to me that it didn't sell well.

Kishi has been going downhill since the Chunin exam, way before part 2 so it extending into his new manga makes perfect sense.
 
Qvoth

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Saddens me that 2018's best new series magus of the library isn't even on the list :(
 
Modest_Modsoul

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I gave up Samurai 8 at chapter 2 because of it's art, believe it or not... : /

I don't like it.

Sure I still could 'see it', it's not ugly per se, but the impressions I got from the art are confusing, mess, busy, unfocused, etc.

It's unenjoyable for me to look at...

Whoever did the Boruto manga art was better, even Kishimoto's original Naruto art, in my opinion.
 
Striferser

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Damn, the sale is really bad. 2 volume contain more or less 18-20 chapters, if you failed to attract audience, it usually a good time to bring something to the table, like reborn started as gag manga then become battle shonen with cast of handsome young dude to target female reader.

A famous name won't guarantee protection from editor. Nobuhiro watsuki gun blaze west got axed in 3 volume. Kuroko no basket new work, Robo x laserbeam only got 7 volumes, which is better than most, but still bad.

Chainsawman and spy x family sales bumber though... now that some good stuff
 
Korigama

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Knowing very little about this series, the lead character kinda looks like a blond Denki from Boruto. That already didn't bode well for hopes of creating something that would become popular.
 
Mendrox

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Art is really confusing but those past three chapters were good imo, but I don't think the series will run for long.
 
Red Tapir

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Want to bring up a comparison.
Both Chainsawman and Samurai 8 feature socially isolated and badly sick characters that get over their respective illnesses by the end of the first chapter.

Denji's origin had a huge influence on him, from how he sees the world, to how he interacts with people, to how he handles his love life.
You can draw a clear line from his childhood isolation and his troubles dealing with his feeling for Makima and Reze in the most recent chapter.

On the other hand, as soon as he's cured, Hachimaru just becomes your generic shonen protagonist.
He's good and righteous and nice.
He's a little embarrassed about his past for two chapters, but quickly gets over it.

The problem with S8 isn't just that its early chapters are slow and boring, but that they are useless and quickly ignored.
 
Philippo

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I think it is ok, the world and lore are interesting but the art is sometimes messy (although getting better), the characters a bit shallow and i don't like how quick power escalates, we are already at moon-destroying feats.

Now Chainsawman, that's some dope shit.
 

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The Gunslinger said:
That's dumb but everything else I'd be cool with

I don't think they do seals anymore. If they did, they'd not only have to put it on his daughter but also his wife
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Well, the seals only went onto the side branch members and since Hinata is main branch she wouldn't get it. Which I guess means Naruto's daughter wouldn't get it either.

I would think they stopped it all around though because the thing was basically a shock collar.
 

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The Gunslinger said:
But Hiashi's twin brother got it and Hinata isn't the heir anymore, Hanabi is.
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To be honest, that plot point is so far in the past I might be misremembering things. I thought it was just that side branch members get the seal no matter what. Hinata not being the heir wouldn't make her side branch, she just wouldn't lead the main branch. She's still main branch though, right?
 
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SuperiorTrashTalk said:
To be honest, that plot point is so far in the past I might be misremembering things. I thought it was just that side branch members get the seal no matter what. Hinata not being the heir wouldn't make her side branch, she just wouldn't lead the main branch. She's still main branch though, right?
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No. Anyone that's not the heir or children of the heir is side-branch.

Hiashi's twin (Neji's father) got it despite being born a few seconds after Hiashi.

Hinata's in the same position as Neji's dad despite being born first because she got disinherited.
 
Cordy

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ArgyleReptile said:
At this point, I just assume Naruto accomplished everything he wanted too as soon as he became Hokage. Not like the series would ever go into detail about the actual work he has to do.
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That's what I assume too. I mean he did say he'd change the Hyuuga. At the same time Oro is still around doing his crap and they all let him live due to diplomacy.
 

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The Gunslinger said:
No. Anyone that's not the heir or children of the heir is side-branch.

Hiashi's twin (Neji's father) got it despite being born a few seconds after Hiashi.

Hinata's in the same position as Neji's dad despite being born first because she got disinherited.
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Ah, I figured I was misremembering something.


Cordy said:
Speaking of seals, did the Hyuuga stop that shit yet lol?
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I'm pretty sure they don't do it anymore. Hiashi is a changed man in Boruto.

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Yunyo

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Forget Samurai 8, I'm really happy to see Kimetsu no Yaiba doing that well. It's great.
 
Lunar Wolf

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SuperiorTrashTalk said:
Ah, I figured I was misremembering something.



I'm pretty sure they don't do it anymore. Hiashi is a changed man in Boruto.

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When your father-in-law is a better Eugenics master than Orochimaru.

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Of course he is,
his plan worked.
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Time for phase 2.

Marry Boruto to Sarada(the last Uchiha and probable 9th Hokage) and marry Himawari to a promising male Hyugaa.

Phase 3 is marrying Boruto and Sarada's daughters to Himawari's sons.

It's all for the benefit of the Hyuga Clan.
 
daveo42

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I'm not surprised it hasn't caught on so far. The story so far seems far too rushed with pretty art and some bad paneling. It would have been a bit better if the first arc was a little more fleshed out instead of cutting direct to the main story, planet-hopping. The paneling and direction could have used some work as well to more clearly define some of the action.

The initial concept seems great, but the execution isn't and I've started falling off already. Maybe the anime will revitalize it, but by then it might be too late.
 
Curler

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Bumping for some more relevant info...

4 of the bottom rankings WSJ have been cancelled:



This now marks Samurai 8 as the current "bottom earner that isn't yet cancelled" as it ranked 5th last last week. Should be interesting going forward how things will pan out. I sure hope the new replacement series will be good though, and curious to see if they will end up out ranking Samurai 8. They will keep pushing it till the end.
 
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Dale Copper

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Man Hiroshi Shiibashi can't catch a break with his new series, but fuck Tokyo Shinobi Squad after that first chapter.
 
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