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Politico has reported on a newly unsealed 87 page opinion that reported that Trumps lawyers found 4 documents marked "classified" in Trump's personal bedroom approximately 4 months after the Mir-a-Lago search. This opinion also made the finding that "
found prosecutors had presented compelling evidence that Trump knowingly stashed national security documents in his home and then tried to conceal them when the Justice Department tried to retrieve them":

Copy of the unsealed opinion: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.561.4.pdf


Four months after the FBI raided his Mar-a-Lago estate, Donald Trump's attorneys discovered four documents marked "classified" in his personal bedroom.

That revelation was among several cited by U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell in a newly unsealed 2023 opinion that found prosecutors had presented compelling evidence that Trump knowingly stashed national security documents in his home and then tried to conceal them when the Justice Department tried to retrieve them.

In her 87-page opinion, Howell said the likelihood that Trump committed crimes was a basis to permit special counsel Jack Smith to question the former president's attorney Evan Corcoran on topics that would normally be shielded by attorney-client privilege. Prosecutors, Howell said, had demonstrated that Trump knew Corcoran had been tasked in June 2022 with informing the government that all classified materials had been returned, "a representation that the former president … knew to be wrong."


The FBI's August 2022 search of Mar-a-Lago confirmed that dozens of other classified documents remained on the property — but as Howell notes, there were at least two more rounds of classified materials found on Trump's property following additional searches.

Throughout the opinion, Howell — who was chief judge of the Washington, D.C. federal district court at the time — described with varying degrees of incredulity how four documents with classification markings could have been discovered in Trump's private quarters months after prosecutors had subpoenaed them and the FBI conducted its own exhaustive search of the property.

"Notably, no excuse is provided as to how the former president could miss the classified-marked documents found in his own bedroom at Mar-a-Lago," Howell, an Obama appointee, wrote.

In a footnote, Howell also noted that another Trump adviser connected to his Save America PAC had acknowledged scanning the contents of the box that contained the classified materials in 2021 and storing them on a personal laptop provided by the PAC.

Trump's office provided the box that contained the four records to the FBI in January 2023, Howell noted.
 

Fat4all

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Oct 25, 2017
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i mean you gotta keep a couple around, just as a memento

fucking dope
 

Strike

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Oct 25, 2017
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Those were his documents! He was right to keep them he unclassified them with his mind!
 

Mr Swine

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Oct 26, 2017
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He was making it sure that all information was correct! /s

Will this be hand waved away or will it be added to his crime?
 
OP
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May 31, 2022
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Read through the unsealed court opinion. Found this:

From page 58:

"More classified-marked documents still were uncovered in November 2022 in a leased storage unit, in December 2022 in the Office at Mar-a-Lago, and apparently sometime thereafter in the former president's own bedroom at Mar-a-Lago."

From page 61:

"Notably, no excuse is provided as to how the former president could miss the classified-marked documents found in his own bedroom at Mar-a-Lago."
 

Booshka

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May 8, 2018
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Imagine stumbling through your nightstand drawer looking for Sudafed and you accidentally spill Diet Coke on the "Coups for Cobalt" document.
 

madstarr12

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Jan 25, 2018
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Literally the EASIEST case to prove, and yet it will likely not go to trial before election because of Cannon.

Terrible.
 

samoscratch

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It makes me sick that this man could hold office again. He will take whatever he wants and do with it what he wants and will face no repercussions.
 

Version 3.0

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Oct 27, 2017
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And in response to this news, Trump and Marjorie Taylor-Greene are blowing smoke by saying the FBI planned to assassinate Trump during the "raid" (ie. search) of Mar-a-Lago.

It sure would be nice if Trump were to face consequences for any of this shit. Watching him on trial for campaign finance violations, to find out if he'll get probation or not, isn't really doing it for me.
 

Foolhardy

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May 4, 2024
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And in response to this news, Trump and Marjorie Taylor-Greene are blowing smoke by saying the FBI planned to assassinate Trump during the "raid" (ie. search) of Mar-a-Lago.

And for reference when gauging the absurdity of their claim: It is a matter of public record that the raid was scheduled so that Trump was in New York at the time.
 

MisterSnrub

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Mar 10, 2018
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Always feel super sceptical when people say he did it for the prestige, as a souvenir or out of plain old spite

Some of these were on the nuclear capabilities of (IIRC) Israel. That's the kind of highly specific info you'd expect a foreign power would be very interested in seeing, and Mar A Lago has just a ton of such guests coming through its doors
 

Culex

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Oct 29, 2017
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Yep and now that this case has been back burned until next year, if Trump wins, he is never having this go to trial.
 

Thrill_house

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Oct 27, 2017
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So...there going to be actual consequences for this or not do fuck all about it and let the dude slide like usual?
 

Malleymal

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Oct 28, 2017
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The fact that he needs this election so badly should be setting off alarms everywhere. His presidency benefits too many parties for there not to be blatant corruption. 2016 interference is just a trial
 

jmood88

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Oct 28, 2017
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It is insane that Trump was handed a judge who clearly wants him to get away with this, and anyone with any kind of power is just letting it slide. They're not even talking about it publicly.

He's so hilariously blunt with his crimes.
He realized that you really can get away with anything as long as you have no shame whatsoever.
 

bwahhhhh

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
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He realized that you really can get away with anything as long as you have no shame whatsoever.

it made me realize that when you have enough power, it's really only when you admit "Ya got me" in the face of overwhelming evidence that they actually get you. as long as you don't do that you can drag it out forever
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Literally the EASIEST case to prove, and yet it will likely not go to trial before election because of Cannon.

Terrible.

Federalist Society. Cannon is just byproduct of them producing indoctrinated judges. Just look at SCOTUS.

If only there was some legal way to dismantle these organizations