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MCU - when will they start bringing back dead characters for reals?

Strangelove_77

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Not counting the snap.

Loki already happened, but when do you think they'll start wheeling out dead characters for reals and not just as cameos/flashbacks? Not that it's a bad thing but if it happens in comics then I'm guessing it'll happen in the movies too.
I imagine someone like Ultron could emerge again. Maybe they could even find a way to bring Quicksilver back as well.
Would people be cool with it?
 
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Please, no.

I'm so fucking sick of Loki, I don't need that with anyone else.
 
Christian

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It has been a few months since I last read Infinity Gauntlet, but I believe Adam Warlock reversed the effects of Thanos's genocide by having the gems reverse any deaths that occurred as a result of the gems. If they follow a similar path in the films, we could see characters like Quicksilver, Ultron, etc. return, as they were all taken out as a result of actions connected to the Infinity Stones (Quicksilver killed by Ultron, Ultron and Quicksilver were powered by stones; Ultron was finished by Vision, who had a stone in his head). Plus, this is like a one-time maguffin, so it doesn't open a door for deaths to constantly be overturned, just in this instance, because of these deus ex machina.
 
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I wonder if we'll get a new Quicksilver. I could see them recasting, depending on what Aaron Taylor Johnson's contract was. Might not even be Pietro but some kinda third sibling or whatever.

Edit: Loki show feasibly could be a prequel, he's over a thousand years old. Although he's presumably a bit more evil inclined prior to his full MCU arc.
 
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I'm mostly asking because of villains. Dormamu could still be a main antagonist, right? Or is he done forever?
I know he's not dead but he might as well be.
Same with Red Skull. Or Kaceiluis.
 
Elegant Weapon

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Quicksilver's actor still had movies left in his contract. I'll be surprised if he doesn't at least appear in Endgame
 
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They can probably avoid this since permanent death is more practical when actors age out or want out of the MCU. Even Jackman couldn't be Wolverine forever.

... though Disney has been perfecting their CGI dead actor tech. Hmmmm...
 
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Would Bucky count? I'm sure it was planned from the start, but if you didn't know much about the comics (like me), he's just Cap's random friend who "died" in the first movie then came back ~4 years later.
 
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Christian said:
It has been a few months since I last read Infinity Gauntlet, but I believe Adam Warlock reversed the effects of Thanos's genocide by having the gems reverse any deaths that occurred as a result of the gems. If they follow a similar path in the films, we could see characters like Quicksilver, Ultron, etc. return, as they were all taken out as a result of actions connected to the Infinity Stones (Quicksilver killed by Ultron, Ultron and Quicksilver were powered by stones; Ultron was finished by Vision, who had a stone in his head). Plus, this is like a one-time maguffin, so it doesn't open a door for deaths to constantly be overturned, just in this instance, because of these deus ex machina.
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Oh yeah, I completely forgot about the Adam Warlock tease in GOTG2. Wonder if we'll finally see him in GOTG3.
 
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At some point, whoever they kill off at the end of End Game will come back at the next mega event in 6-8 years... "The Rebirth of Captain America" or whatever.
 
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kris. said:
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about the Adam Warlock tease in GOTG2. Wonder if we'll finally see him in GOTG3.
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For the record, I don't think warlock will be in Endgame. Just that the action he took, reversing deaths due to the stones, could give them an avenue for resurrection without overdoing it.
 
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Whenever the find someone as good or better than the original actor.

But considering they've sold America at large on Thor, Dr. Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy etc. they're gonna dig deep in their reservoir before they bother resurrecting the original cast.
 

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20 movies in and they've barely killed anyone in the first place. Not counting Infinity War which will all be reversed in Endgame anyway.
 
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Wiped said:
Whedon said it's not canon and he's never been seen in the MCU movies since his death in Avengers 1. I would say it's not canon
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He did not say this.

You are referring to an interview that was taken out of context where Whedon talks about how you couldn't just have Coulson show up in the films because it would confuse casual viewers. Millions and millions and millions more people watched Age of Ultron than watch any single TV show, especially a genre show like AoS so you have to write the movie in a way that keeps this in mind.
 
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Strangelove77 said:
I'm STILL confused about this. Is Agents of Shield canonical or not? I've never seen the show.
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Like the Netflix shows, it's a One way street.

You won't have stuff from downstream interact with the movies, but the movies can influence the world of the EU.


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Loki's series is about him messing around with humanity throughout history. The premise implies it's before Infinity War.
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Everything is possible at this point, but that last Loki line in Infinity War will have a payoff in Endgame, I am sure of it.
 
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Bor Gullet said:
Yet none of the characters from TV have shown up in the movies.
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That's not entirely true. Coulson has shown up. And events that have taken place in the show have shown up in the movie, like Fury finding the helicarrier in Age of Ultron. Yes, it could technically be explained away in a different way, but they literally found that helicarrier and delivered it to Fury in the show. You can't keep moving goalposts for what you think does or does not make it in-continuity.

Not only would it confuse the millions of people that watch the movies but not the shows if they were more elaborately intertwined, the show literally isn't even broadcast in all of the territories where the movies are released. You can ignore AS, and that's fine, but it is most certainly firmly in continuity.
 
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I suspect/hope that Loki is gone for good. His shit was tired as fuck.

And I would hope other characters aren't coming back (outside the snap, obvs), because there's just so many more out there. We don't need to rehash things.
 
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Elegant Weapon said:
Quicksilver's actor still had movies left in his contract. I'll be surprised if he doesn't at least appear in Endgame
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There were versions of the Age of Ultron script that kept Quicksilver alive. There were also versions which featured Captain Marvel (they even shot some stuff) stuff changes.

Just because he has films left in his contracts doesn't mean anything. Just means Marvel/Disney were hedging their bets.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn a lot of one-off villians also had multiple movie contracts despite being killed off or having no plans to bring them back.
 
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Most actors in these films have contracts for multiple movies even if they're one-offs. Even the kid from IM3 had a 3 movie contact.
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Wow, that's crazy.
ZeoVGM said:
I don't believe this is true. The story that has gone around is that he only took the role with the promise that it was one-and-done.
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I thought I remember hearing it from him in an interview that he had films left but maybe I'm mistaken. It does seem like multiple film contracts are standard for Marvel

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There were versions of the Age of Ultron script that kept Quicksilver alive. There were also versions which featured Captain Marvel (they even shot some stuff) stuff changes.

Just because he has films left in his contracts doesn't mean anything. Just means Marvel/Disney were hedging their bets.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn a lot of one-off villians also had multiple movie contracts despite being killed off or having no plans to bring them back.
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Captain Marvel stuff in Ultron? Whoa. I'd love to hear more about that.

The only reason I think Quicksilver would have a cameo is the flashbacks in the trailer and that he had films left so it seems like an easy cameo that would be awesome
 
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The comics don't have to pay RDJ's inflatable paycheck every time they bring back a main character. These stars aren't getting any less mainstream, look how Dave Bautista and Chris Pratt have exploded since Guardians.

Recasting? Possibly I guess. I do honestly think they'd struggle. I don't know if a James Bond actor has ever been as loved as certain MCU characters. Can you imagine Luke Skywalker being recast? Harry Potter? These are icons.
 
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Elegant Weapon said:
Captain Marvel stuff in Ultron? Whoa. I'd love to hear more about that.
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Joss really wanted to have Carol in the "New Avengers" group shot at the end. The idea was that it would be the first time we meet her, in costume and everything, and I assume we would find out about her origin and what led up to that moment in a solo film.

They changed their minds as it would have been too much and Feige didn't want that being the first time we meet the character.
 
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Elegant Weapon said:
Captain Marvel stuff in Ultron? Whoa. I'd love to hear more about that.

The only reason I think Quicksilver would have a cameo is the flashbacks in the trailer and that he had films left so it seems like an easy cameo that would be awesome
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Carol Danvers appeared in earlier drafts of the movie as Captain Marvel. Marvel feared introducing her without explaining who she was would be too confusing for casual viewers, so they decided to wait and introduce her in her own movie instead. This was changed so late in production that Whedon had actually shot the live-action plates for her entrance. The shots were later used for when Scarlet Witch joins the New Avengers.

Quicksilver in scenes set in the past is different than bringing him back from the dead. He could totally appear in pre-death scenes but I doubt we'll see him alive and well.
 
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