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Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2018 (Jan 01 - Jan 07)
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It's a mid-tier jRPG franchise that's showed solid growth, I think that's solid enough. It'll land somewhere between 200k and 250k. And I think SMTV and FE are going to do very well.
So much for Sony week.
The fact that PS4 sold 100k units but its software sales are so depressing is really a proof that people are buying hardware in anticipation of software, in this case Monster Hunter World. Also, it's nice to see how the only new games released under holidays are those that have kept selling. But overall PS4 software situation is really bad.
On the other hand, Switch software sales are remarkable. Everything is selling: all genres, all companies and all IPs. Fifa, for example, is a surprising performance given the history of the franchise on Nintendo platforms. Sumikko Gurashi is selling similarly to the first 3DS entry.
The fact that PS4 sold 100k units but its software sales are so depressing is really a proof that people are buying hardware in anticipation of software, in this case Monster Hunter World. Also, it's nice to see how the only new games released under holidays are those that have kept selling. But overall PS4 software situation is really bad.
On the other hand, Switch software sales are remarkable. Everything is selling: all genres, all companies and all IPs. Fifa, for example, is a surprising performance given the history of the franchise on Nintendo platforms. Sumikko Gurashi is selling similarly to the first 3DS entry.
It's Thursday now, so tonight in about 6 and a half hours.
Oh boy, didn't think that Switch would be above or get such a big boost in sales in the first week of the year.
Also what is up with PS4 software, that is abysmal and it makes me wonder if game devs are looking at them and looking at Switch sales.
Also I do wonder which game will get to 2 million first, Mario Odyssey or MonHun World
Also what is up with PS4 software, that is abysmal and it makes me wonder if game devs are looking at them and looking at Switch sales.
Also I do wonder which game will get to 2 million first, Mario Odyssey or MonHun World
Xenoblade 2 good word of mouth can only explain these legs.
And Fifa still doing surprisingly good.
And Fifa still doing surprisingly good.
Depressing VS Remarkable:
Third parties
10./09. [PS4] Earth Defense Force 5 <ACT> (D3Publisher) {2017.12.07} (¥7.800) - 18.298 / 207.202 <80-100%> (+25%)
14./15. [PS4] Call of Duty: WWII # <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2017.11.03} (¥7.900) - 10.872 / 351.979 <80-100%> (+31%)
26./11. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 # <ADV> (Sega) {2017.12.07} (¥7.590) - 7.527 / 189.391 <80-100%> (-39%)
27./00. [PS4] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum Session! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.10.26} (¥6.100) - 7.017 / 59.824 <60-80%>
17./22. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 9.410 / 43.330 <60-80%> (+82%)
19./18. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} (¥6.800) - 9.064 / 99.903 <80-100%> (+35%)
20./00. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 8.856 / 129.036 <80-100%>
24./17. [NSW] FIFA 18 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2017.09.29} (¥5.800) - 7.692 / 64.995 <80-100%> (+4%)
25./21. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. # <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.08.25} (¥5.800) - 7.605 / 210.964 <80-100%> (+29%)
29./23. [NSW] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 - Deluxe Edition <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.21} (¥5.800) - 5.922 / 22.611 <80-100%> (+20%)
COME ON!
lol
It's nice that some Switch games have great legs, but let's not exaggerate...
Thank you. In fact I wonder how do people know the date of the next release?
I went to the official websit https://www.m-create.com/index.html but I can't find anywhere.
Anecdotal evidence and all but I saw a bunch of stores with MHW preorder sections and its literally the only thing besides Fifa people modestly care about. In regards to PS4, that is.
I'll quote myself from the older thread (didn't find the new one at first)
TOP 1000 is going to be so interesting
TOP 1000 is going to be so interesting
MHW isn't getting to 2 millions.
That would be an insane attach rate never seen before on a PlayStation system
I don't think he's saying third party sales are remarkable. Switch sales as a whole are remarkable, and part of that is that third parties are doing good. Third parties are also doing good on PS4, but it's extremely weak on the first-party front. The hardware/software ratio says it all.
Fair enough. It certainly would be nice if some people stopped being overly fixated on that one aspect of Awakening and Fates, yeah.
I wasn't specifically talking about third parties even if your comparison still fits my comment.
NSW - 15
PS4 - 5
Switch software sales are remarkable because numbers are big and games have legs (sometimes, more than usual). Also, they are remarkable because it is a new hardware with a shaping userbase. And it comes from Wii U, which was poison for third parties. Even 3DS first holiday didn't have so many games charting.
Also, please have a look at the difference in third party support between Switch and PS4. Switch received low-tier support and small franchises. For example, XenoVerse 2 is a late porting and, even considering this, it is going to sell on par with the PS4 version. Fifa last appearance on a Nintendo hardware was 5 years ago, with Fifa 13 on Wii U, which sold below 20k. Fifa Switch is going to sell similarly to the PS4 version which is pretty remarkable if you think about it. Sumikko Gurashi is a 150-200k seller on 3DS, but Switch generally lacks a younger audience so its sales are pretty good. Super Bomberman R selling 130k is something pretty astonishing. And this despite the huge sales of Nintendo software---all Nintendo games launched on Switch are charting this week.
On the other hand, you have PS4 with a 6m installed base which under holiday and with a 100k week is not able to bring more than 5 games in the chart---all with pretty low numbers. Taiko used to sell at least 100k but the PS4 version is struggling. Yakuza is falling with respect to the previous remake. The first two games are selling very well on their own but the software situation overall is depressing.
Well. He wrote "Everything is selling: all genres, all companies and all IPs." . The truth is that 3rd party games are not doing that well on the Switch. Some nice legs here and there, but nothing really remarkable. Right now Nintendo is destroying everybody! And this includes all the other companies making games for the Switch.
Yes and he's very much correct. He's talking about percentage growth of all switch titles this week. All of which including third parties had substantial growth within the top 30.
14./00. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 8.308 / NEW <20-40%>
21./14. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 7.039 / 15.347 <40-60%> (-15%)
20./21. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 13.409 / 28.756 <60-80%> (+90%)
22./20. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 5.164 / 33.920 <60-80%> (-61%)
17./22. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 9.410 / 43.330 <60-80%> (+82%)
Compared with the first 3DS entry:
12./00. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 12.880 / NEW <20-40%>
18./12. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 6.012 / 18.892 <40-60%> (-53%)
13./18. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 7.503 / 26.395 <40-60%> (+25%)
16./13. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 12.787 / 39.182 <60-80%> (+70%)
16./17. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 19.764 / 61.717 (+58%)
Of course, the 3DS had yet to enter the holiday season where it sold really well but this bodes well for the franchise on Switch---especially when Switch will attract a younger audience. The first Sumikko Gurashi was released when 3DS was already late in its lifecycle.
21./14. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 7.039 / 15.347 <40-60%> (-15%)
20./21. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 13.409 / 28.756 <60-80%> (+90%)
22./20. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 5.164 / 33.920 <60-80%> (-61%)
17./22. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.12.07} (¥5.800) - 9.410 / 43.330 <60-80%> (+82%)
Compared with the first 3DS entry:
12./00. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 12.880 / NEW <20-40%>
18./12. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 6.012 / 18.892 <40-60%> (-53%)
13./18. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 7.503 / 26.395 <40-60%> (+25%)
16./13. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 12.787 / 39.182 <60-80%> (+70%)
16./17. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 19.764 / 61.717 (+58%)
Of course, the 3DS had yet to enter the holiday season where it sold really well but this bodes well for the franchise on Switch---especially when Switch will attract a younger audience. The first Sumikko Gurashi was released when 3DS was already late in its lifecycle.
This is factually incorrect and the fact that many third party games are also sold-out on Switch is a proof of this.
Given the type of support Switch is receiving, third party games are selling extremely well. Fifa, Dragon Ball, Sumikko Gurashi, Monster Hunter, Bomberman are selling better than expected. Some of them even approaching sales of PS4 versions.
I noticed that with the 2 best sales of Switch games, it exceeded the sales of the Switch console
Splatoon 2: 2.033.614
SMO: 1.534.941
Total: 3.568.555
Switch: 3.566.794
details here:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3125783/
For all games sold, we don't have complete numbers but we already have , ~ 8m (7.960.554), it seems insane for a 10 months console old.
Splatoon 2: 2.033.614
SMO: 1.534.941
Total: 3.568.555
Switch: 3.566.794
details here:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3125783/
For all games sold, we don't have complete numbers but we already have , ~ 8m (7.960.554), it seems insane for a 10 months console old.
Yeah, percentages can look amazing, but if we see the actual amount of copies, it's not that amazing.
If i'm not mistaken, just Splatoon 2 sold more than the entire top 50 3rd party games combined!
Which of the 3rd party games you listed should have sold better in your opinion? The sales are relatively low because there are straight up no major 3rd party games on Switch. You can't directly compare new releases like EDF or Yakuza Kiwami 2 with year old ports of One Piece Warriors or Xenoverse 2.
With 3rd party feedback on sales and the current sales numbers, I can safely say that this is wrong.
which released 3rd party game should be doing blockbusters exactly?
Cause I can think of several that are doing better than they should.
I don't know how you can be so confident about that. I'm not saying it will or won't make 2 million but it's far from a guarantee either way.
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, despite being a late port without the DLCs included is outselling the original release on PS4 and might outsell DragonBall FighterZ.
If that's not good, I don't know what is.
Are there any numbers for the 3rd party multi-platform games across different platforms? One Piece, FIFA, Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2, etc?
Well specifically for that, that's just Koei Tecmo's titles just failing all around.
I'd say at this point it'd be unfair to compare all of those Third party sales with Splatoon 2.
It's Splatoon.
I am employing the "It's Pokemon" argument.
Switch games, sales by famitsu with digital estimates
Source (warning, incomplete data): https://www.resetera.com/posts/3125783/
Nintendo games (9): 6.595.863
Others (36): 1.364.691
Total (45): 7.960.554
Source (warning, incomplete data): https://www.resetera.com/posts/3125783/
Nintendo games (9): 6.595.863
Others (36): 1.364.691
Total (45): 7.960.554
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Let's be honest, guys. 3rd parties can't compete with Nintendo quality...
Most Switch users will be happy enough only having Nintendo games.
Most Switch users will be happy enough only having Nintendo games.
I don't expect all games to sell 100k. But 10K? That's really low right now
What I find curious is that in spite of the PS4 audience growing with occasional bursts, you don't really see DQ11 resurface. Is the second-hand market keeping it at bay?
I'm sure you have a point to this whole conversation, but for the life of me I don't know what it is.
God, yes. It tops the used charts in a few retailers.
Maybe you should try to compare those sales with the PS4 versions ? (DBX2, FIFA ...)
That would help you to have a reference point.
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