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Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2018 (Jan 01 - Jan 07)
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Huh? That's not true? FFXIII sold 1.5 million in the first week, and in that week the PS3 LTD was just under 4.3 million. That's an attach rate of 35% in that week alone. The PS4 LTD is almost at 6 million now, and will be over that by the time Monster Hunter World is released. If we assume that 0 PS4 units are sold from now until then, and we assume Monster Hunter World sells 2 million in the launch week, that's an attach rate of 33%. Less than FFXIII's attach rate.
I don't think MHW will sell 2 million, but lets not say silly things that isn't based on fact. :)
You thought Bomberman, Xenoverse 2, FIFA, Monster Hunter XX HD, Sumikko and One Piece would do better? I have a hard time believing that.
everything should be higher
fifa and bomberman should be pulling 400k.
Man, you are talking about 2 or 3 games... How many 3rd party games are on the Switch? 60? 80? What's the average per title?
Yes because year old ports of titles on other platforms (that have also been out for several months) and 9 month old smaller scale games are totally going to sell near 100k in a week in Japan.
These are reasonable expectations...
I think some companies would be a lot happier if their games sell 50k instead of 5k...
If these titles were pulling 50k a week rather than 5 all these smaller scale games would be multi million sellers. Within the platforms first year on the market. Do you know how many Japanese titles were multi million sells on the PS4 inside it's first year? Your expectations are insane. Even in the best case scenario that was never going to happen.
So is 3rd party sales about quality or quantity?
I wonder if Switch can get to 5 million before PS4 gets to 6 million.
EDIT: clearly I mean 7 million for PS4. Blame mobile typo
EDIT: clearly I mean 7 million for PS4. Blame mobile typo
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If an ambitious 3rd party game bombs on Switch I'd understand this discussion.
atm all 3rd party we got are either performing as one could expect or overperforming, with the exception of Koei Tecmo.
atm all 3rd party we got are either performing as one could expect or overperforming, with the exception of Koei Tecmo.
Ok. Can you give me the total amount and the average of copies sold per title?
If you want a little idea, here:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3132335/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3125783/
According to Nintendo Japan's site, there are about 39 3rd party Switch games which have been released in some form at retail. 248 titles in total. 12 first party titles (I'm counting FE Musou and Pokken). That makes it 51 retail titles and 197 digital only releases. Food for thought.
For a system that has sold 3.5 million units, what is the expectation of consumer appetite in the first 10 months? How many games should the average Switch owner be expected to buy? What about the divide between digital and retail? These are all things to consider.
For a system that has sold 3.5 million units, what is the expectation of consumer appetite in the first 10 months? How many games should the average Switch owner be expected to buy? What about the divide between digital and retail? These are all things to consider.
Basically impossible. In the coming weeks we could see PS4 numbers close to the Switch because of MHW.
As a Tellius fan, it pains me to admit, but this is true lol
It's not true that everything should be higher. When games like Fifa and XenoVerse are sold-out it means that they are selling well above expectations. Some games sold low numbers, true; KT games for example---what were expectations, though? Late portings released on the same day---I'm pretty sure KT wasn't expecting much. Also, those games kept selling over time even if outside charts.
In fact, given how much Nintendo games are selling it's pretty astonishing to see these long-term sales from third party games released many months ago (Bomberman is a launch title!).
Nintendo games sells more, on average, than third party games? True, but that's even true across platforms: Nintendo simply has the most valuable and important franchises in the video game industry; Mario, Pokémon and Animal Crossing as potential 5m+ sellers plus Smash, Zelda, Kirby, etc.
This doesn't mean third party games can't sell well on Nintendo hardware. 3DS and DS showed this. Switch showed this even if third party support was almost non-existent.
Who said PS4 wasn't supposed to get a bump? All consoles were supposed to have one, it's Week 1 and that's expected.
Zelda should be over the 1 million point now with digital. I think the Wii U one was around 130,000 on media create around the middle of last year (so it will have been still selling each copies since then).
Totally forgot about Wii U sales, but that's awesome! Happy to see Zelda doing great in Japan!
Going by these numbers:
Nintendo 9 games average 732K
3rd Parties 36 games average 37K
I'm talking about this:
1/3 of all retail Switch games sold 5K or less.
And many of those are not old ports
30- One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.08.24} – 5.916
31 - Resident Evil: Revelations Collection (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 5.892
32 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi (Koei Tecmo) (2017.11.30) - 5.786
33 - Disgaea 5 Complete (Nippon Ichi Software) {2017.03.03} – 5.065
34 - Sonic Forces (Sega) {2017.11.09} - 4.899
35 - I am Setsuna (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} – 4.625
36 - Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo) {2017.08.31} – 4.413
37 - Azure Striker Gunvolt: Striker Pack (Inti Creates) {2017.08.31} – 3.196
38 - Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.07.20} – 3.007
39 - Resident Evil: Revelations (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 2.747
40 - Champion Jockey Special (Koei Tecmo) {2017.09.14} – 2.512
41 - NBA 2K18 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2017.10.17} – 2.397
42 - Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate (Koei Tecmo) {2017.11.09} - 2.307
43 - LEGO Worlds (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2017.11.22} - 2.274
44 - Monopoly for Nintendo Switch (Ubisoft) {2017.11.09} - 2.005
45 - Winning Post 8 2017 (Koei Tecmo) {2017.09.14} – 1.774
that's...interesting.
Does it have a date?
Cause don't companies usually let the game sell for a bit first, then announce the port, to get maximum double dippers...
Many of them were expected to sell as much. Sonic Forces and Night of Azure 2 sold bad on all platforms---it's not a Switch issue. One Piece, for example, is a porting of a two year old version of a four year old game. Cars 3... Really?
Many of those numbers are not updated. We know Disgaea 5 shipped 30k units in Japan.
I think you're not able to prove your argument with enough facts.
yeah, the increase from last week was much higher than most (including me) expected. Didn't imagine a 100k + week until monster Hunter week, I'm very impressed.
Yes and most of these are either old ports of games on other titles or small games themselves with franchises that historical sell in that region in recent times.
Your argument is akin to saying niche RPG's should be having the legs of pokemon on the switch just because. It's absurd.
I think this is an example of Level 5 scrambling to get something out on Switch rather than actual strategy.
i guess that explains the amiibo like NFC figures announced today
I have a hard time seeing any of those doing way better on any console considering they are the majority old ports with no new content
I know Level-5 is joining the party eventually. Just not expecting The Snack World to be the neophyte.
While your doing the math, what was the average for PS4 first party and 3rd party games in its first 10 months? Seeing it would really put things in perspective for us. Thanks!
Not sure if this is typical at all, but I own 21 Switch games right now, only 7 of which got a retail release. That's 2:1 in favour of eShop-only titles. With so many digital titles available and a lot of indie devs talking about their games performing well, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a lot of Switch owners with similar ratios.
The 3DS is pretty much done and they want this to be their next hit so it makes sense. The mobile version is still MIA though.
A lot of these numbers are not updated (Disgaea 5's number for instance is literally its FW numbers), though I'm wondering how the PS4 versions of some of these games fared on the chart.
I think I predicted this a few weeks ago.
It makes sense to port the game because the anime is still running so Level-5 can expand its appeal by leveraging on Switch popularity. They did a similar thing with LBX, which received an expansion on 3DS after the PSP entry + expansion. LBX on 3DS went to sell 200k units.
Really don't see the issue here. Don't think the situation would be any different if PS4 was the platform.
You realise what thread your posting in? How on earth did you think the Vita survived all these years with the level of support it had?
To be frank your expectations of the sales of games and japanese 3rd parties expectations of sales for games within Japan are in entirely different stratospheres.
Definitely more than that. Was at 1.35m shipments + digital at the end of September.
For some of those titles sure, their performance in Japan as opposed to worldwide is abysmal even if the numbers are outdated. But expecting games like a horse racing game (that's inferior to Pocket Card Jockey) an American Basketball game or a 95 dollar Nobunaga's Ambition game to perform a lot better than they are ain't a good argument point.
Or expecting Sonic Forces to do any better than rotting in the garbage.
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