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Oct 27, 2017
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Those games are more legs, maybe 250k? I forgot what other games did
looking at the Famitsu first week openings for every 3D mario game :
Title FW LTD
Super Mario 64 162.111 1.646.558
Super Mario Sunshine 280.610 789.989
Super Mario 64 DS 120.062 1.231.891
Super Mario Galaxy 256.341 1.025.664
Super Mario Galaxy 2 337.569 1.046.696
Super Mario 3D Land 344.698 2.111.490
Super Mario 3D World 106.967 602.234
Super Mario Odyssey 511.625 2.119.498

Id say around Super Mario Galaxy's FW or Sunshine's would be good
 

Guaraná

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Oct 25, 2017
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brazil, unfortunately
If Nintendo just upgrade their next console on pair to what Sony does with playstation, keep the concept and improving their relationship with other companies, i think 3rd parties will feel more comfortable supporting the console heavily from the beginning.

I hope this time they let their creative locked on the software side.
 

Neoxon

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If Nintendo just upgrade their next console on pair to what Sony does with playstation, keep the concept and improving their relationship with other companies, i think 3rd parties will feel more comfortable supporting the console heavily from the beginning.

I hope this time they let their creative locked on the software side.
I'm not sure the technology needed for a Switch successor to match the PS5 will be there by the time said successor arrives.
 

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I don't think the tech will be there, but with DLSS they might match the Series S in some form. And that could open a lot mor third party support.
 

Gotdatmoney

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I'm not sure the technology needed for a Switch successor to match the PS5 will be there by the time said successor arrives.

Oh not even close. But they should be able to launch something capable of receiving ports. It will mostly be the CPU and the streaming solution that will be an issue. But every game wont stress those.
 

Gotdatmoney

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I mean, the tech is there, but is it accessible lol?

If you are going to launch in 2023 sure, why wouldn't it be?

Being within XSS proximity is probably the best we can hope for.

You can get something more performant on the GPU side but it wont be possible to match it on the CPU side. The storage solution will be an issue but I think they can get something adequate. Bandwidth can probably be solved to an acceptable degree too.

It will be a collosal leap over the PS4 and Xbox One (frankly it will be a huge leap over the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X too in all areas besides resolution).

This type of technology moves quickly. 24-30 months from now is eons in tech terms
 

madstarr12

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Jan 25, 2018
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Does Switch have any notable software coming out Week 3? If not, it probably dips below 100K that week.

Edit: Week 4 on Famitsu.
 
Dec 21, 2020
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If you are going to launch in 2023 sure, why wouldn't it be?



You can get something more performant on the GPU side but it wont be possible to match it on the CPU side. The storage solution will be an issue but I think they can get something adequate. Bandwidth can probably be solved to an acceptable degree too.

It will be a collosal leap over the PS4 and Xbox One (frankly it will be a huge leap over the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X too in all areas besides resolution).

This type of technology moves quickly. 24-30 months from now is eons in tech terms
Well, to put it more accurately, 24-30 months sees bigger improvements in the mobile side. It moves blazingly fast compared to its brethren.
I'm not sure the technology needed for a Switch successor to match the PS5 will be there by the time said successor arrives.
I think they mean if the next console is just an evolution of the switch in the same fashion that sony approaches playstation, it would be better for the third parties since they become more familiar faster with the hardware in how to optimize for it or make Games for it. Rather than a revolution like the GC to Wii which they have to approach it differently.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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250k+ would be an excellent opening for 3D World. Thanks to vouchers, it would be one of the biggest openings for the franchise.

We'll see
 

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Do we know the download numbers for Nintendo's mobile games?
I don't think we have the latest numbers for their mobile games. But this is what I can find at the moment.
mario-kart-tour-first-month-chart.jpg


EDIT: Sensor Tower reported that Super Mario Run has 244 million downloads, while Mario Kart Tour has 147 million downloads as of January 2020.
 
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hiska-kun

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Oct 26, 2017
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Tsutaya Ranking: Week 2, 2021 (11 Jan - 17 Jan)

01./01. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300)
02./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
03./03. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980)
04./05. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
05./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
06./06. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
07./07. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <TBL> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980)
08./08. [NSW] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin <SLG> (Marvelous) {2020.11.12} (¥4.980)
09./10. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.11.22} (¥5.980)
10./09. [NSW] Pikmin 3 Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2020.10.30} (¥5.980)
11./14. [NSW] Super Mario Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
12./16. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age - Definitive Edition [New Price Edition] <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥4.980)
13./11. [NSW] Super Mario 3D All-Stars <ACT> (Nintendo) {2020.09.18} (¥6.480)
14./12. [NSW] Fitness Boxing 2: Rhythm & Exercise <HOB> (Imagineer) {2020.12.03} (¥5.800)
15./19. [NSW] Pokemon Sword <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
16./15. [NSW] Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 <PZL> (Sega) {2020.12.10} (¥4.990)
17./13. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Cold War <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2020.11.13} (¥7.900)
18./20. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980)
19./18. [NSW] Human: Fall Flat <ADV> (Teyon Japan) {2020.06.25} (¥3.500)
20./26. [PS4] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin <SLG> (Marvelous) {2020.11.12} (¥4.980)

Top 20

NSW - 18
PS4 - 2
 

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I just know that Nikkei seems to have an image of a Nintendo hater and Sony cheerleader in Japan?

Like, a discussion around the news will be
bad Nintendo news
fuck Nikkei
good Nintendo news
did you eat something wrong?

reverse for sony

kinda like The Verge to Apple I guess
 
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Djehuty

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I don't think we have the latest numbers for their mobile games. But this is what I can find at the moment.
mario-kart-tour-first-month-chart.jpg


EDIT: Sensor Tower reported that Super Mario Run has 244 million downloads, while Mario Kart Tour has 147 million downloads as of January 2020.
Animal Crossing is probably way up by now.

on a side note im impressed by fire emblem Nintendo's RPG franchise's (fire emblem and xenoblade) have experienced a ton of growth over the past generation behind persona, KH, FF, and NIer they are probably the next biggest Jrpg franchises worldwide which is a major accomplishment for entirely exclusive franchises.
 

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Animal Crossing is probably way up by now.

on a side note im impressed by fire emblem Nintendo's RPG franchise's (fire emblem and xenoblade) have experienced a ton of growth over the past generation behind persona, KH, FF, and NIer they are probably the next biggest Jrpg franchises worldwide which is a major accomplishment for entirely exclusive franchises.
Yeah that's quite surprising. I didn't bring this up but Fire Emblem Heroes is Nintendo's biggest mobile game in terms of revenues by a longshot. A very successful mobile game after Awakening explode the series' popularity is probably the main reason Fire Emblem became Nintendo's big IP in recent years.
 

Celine

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Oct 26, 2017
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PlayStation software (2014-2019 is from Media Create)
1*: [PS1] Software Sales {1994.12.03}
2*: [PS2] Software Sales {2000.03.04}
3*: [PSP] Software Sales {2004.12.12}
4*: [PS3] Software Sales {2006.11.11}
5*: [PSV] Software Sales {2011.12.17}
6*: [PS4] Software Sales {2014.02.22}
7*: [PS5] Software Sales {2020.11.12}
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Japanese publishers, which historically have sided with Sony, must be thrilled at the PlayStation's prospect in their domestic market.
2021 may very well sign a new low for the PlayStation ecosystem annual software sales at retail due to weakening sales on PS4 and PS5 stuttering out of the gate.
 

hiska-kun

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Oct 26, 2017
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(Taiwan)
Media Create Sales Week 1, 2021 (4 Jan - 10 Jan)


01./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
02./02. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
03./03. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05}
04./00. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Nintendo) {2019.01.11}
05./04. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}

Top 5

NSW - 5

(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 1, 2021 (4 Jan - 10 Jan)


01./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
02./02. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
03./03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
04./05. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2018.02.01}
05./00. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05}

Top 5

NSW - 5

gnn.gamer.com.tw

MediaCreate 1 月 4 日~1 月 10 日一週銷售排行榜 《桃太郎電鐵》邁向八連霸

巴哈姆特 GNN 與日本遊戲業界分析公司 MediaCreate 合作,每週定期刊載由 MediaCreate 調查與統計的日本、台灣與韓國地區家用遊樂器主機遊戲軟體的一週銷售排行榜,供玩家參考。 《桃太郎電鐵 ~昭和 平成 令和也是基本款!~》 由於當週是跨完年後的隔週,很少有遊戲會選在這個時間推出,因此同樣沒有新作入榜,仍以前幾週持續熱賣的 Sw
 

Djehuty

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Yeah that's quite surprising. I didn't bring this up but Fire Emblem Heroes is Nintendo's biggest mobile game in terms of revenues by a longshot. A very successful mobile game after Awakening explode the series' popularity is probably the main reason Fire Emblem became Nintendo's big IP in recent years.
I feel Fire emblem, Xenoblade, and Splatoon were switch breakouts that went more under the radar (and maybe pikmin 3 depending on how it does). the future is bright for all of them. especially Splatoon, it seems poised to follow Mario and Zelda into the non-games business's.

im still adamant that if Splatoon 3 release it can do above 20mil (as long as it isn't during launch window). Splatoon 2 is likely to reach 15mil so a 5mil growth from that isn't too far fetched. Xenoblade and fire emblem will also probably grow with their next entries too.
 

Tialo

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Dec 4, 2019
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I think Mario 3D World will open at ~150k retail in Japan. I think digital sales will be very very high in February due to state of emergency.
 

Oregano

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Oct 25, 2017
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Japanese publishers, which historically have sided with Sony, must be thrilled at the PlayStation's prospect in their domestic market.
2021 may very well sign a new low for the PlayStation ecosystem annual software sales at retail due to weakening sales on PS4 and PS5 stuttering out of the gate.

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Tbone5189

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So with Evergreens destined to have a strong year followed by good legs afterwards what are the lifetime expectations for each in japan?

Splatoon2
RFA
ACNH
PokemknSwSh
SSBU
MK8D

All 5mil+ sellers (RFA 3mil+ but has potential)
 

CaviarMeths

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Oct 25, 2017
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Boy am I glad I missed the Pokemon discussion. Absolutely pants-on-head crazy to call Pokemon a poorly managed IP or say that Snap has a higher budget than main series games. Don't smoke crack, kids.
 

Guaraná

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Oct 25, 2017
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brazil, unfortunately
I'm not sure the technology needed for a Switch successor to match the PS5 will be there by the time said successor arrives.

didn't say that

but reading again, yeah, this gave rise to several interpretations.

when I said "upgrade their next console on pair to what Sony does with PlayStation", I meant to make the next console "just" a simple evolution of the previous one, without reinventing the wheel every single time.
 
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hussien-11

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Oct 27, 2017
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Media Create Sales Week 1, 2021 (4 Jan - 10 Jan)


01./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
02./02. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
03./03. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05}
04./00. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Nintendo) {2019.01.11}
05./04. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}

Top 5

NSW - 5

(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 1, 2021 (4 Jan - 10 Jan)


01./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
02./02. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
03./03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
04./05. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2018.02.01}
05./00. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05}

Top 5

NSW - 5

gnn.gamer.com.tw

MediaCreate 1 月 4 日~1 月 10 日一週銷售排行榜 《桃太郎電鐵》邁向八連霸

巴哈姆特 GNN 與日本遊戲業界分析公司 MediaCreate 合作,每週定期刊載由 MediaCreate 調查與統計的日本、台灣與韓國地區家用遊樂器主機遊戲軟體的一週銷售排行榜,供玩家參考。 《桃太郎電鐵 ~昭和 平成 令和也是基本款!~》 由於當週是跨完年後的隔週,很少有遊戲會選在這個時間推出,因此同樣沒有新作入榜,仍以前幾週持續熱賣的 Sw

I thought some of those games may start to slow down a little but nope, not in any market big or small. incredible staying power for all of those games.

New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe is selling like a new game. I really don't see the need for NSMB3.
 

Celine

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Oct 26, 2017
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I think Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury will surpass the expectations of many.
The idea of mixing 3D Mario with 2D Mario, the predisposition to coop multiplayer sessions and the novel mode/expansion coupled with Switch strong popularity could led to very high sales.
 
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GEO stores: Week 2, 2021 (Jan 11 - Jan 17)

01./01. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300)
02./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
03./03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
04./04. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980)
05./05. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
06./06. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
07./07. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <TBL> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980)
08./10. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.11.22} (¥5.980)
09./08. [NSW] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin <SLG> (Marvelous) {2020.11.12} (¥4.980)
10./09. [NSW] Pikmin 3 Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2020.10.30} (¥5.980)

Top 10

NSW - 10

"Switch top 10 for 4 consecutive weeks.
Since there weren't new releases there is no big change in the title lineup and Switch software is sweeping all places.
At 1st place, Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! has sales that greatly exceed the 2nd place Ring Fit Adventure. It's the 7th top seller among Switch software at GEO and we are looking forward to see how much sales will increase."
 

Tbone5189

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I think Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury will surpass the expectations of many.
The idea of mixing 3D Mario with 2D Mario, the predisposition to coop multiplayer sessions and the novel mode/expansion coupled with Switch strong popularity could led to very high sales.

This has been my thinking as well. It has potential mostly due to the coop for a 3D Mario (also like you said a mix of 2D). The original was on WiiU so it was easily held back.

At the very least we will have another million seller