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I am not sure i get you?
Because it was never promoted or released as a big new mainline entry. It ha a fraction of the marketing Awakening/Fates had and was released to a dying 3DS just when the Switch was releasing with BOTW and stuff. It's a passion remake of the least popular game in the series and that still sold well.

Awakening and Fates still feel like FE. There's no need for a self insert or copying Persona 5.

I don't know why academy setting is worrying. It is bound to be a one-off thing. They will move to something like military camp in the next game.

If you are referring to social / customization elements... well, it is only my opinion, but I think IS has perfected map design in Fates. So it is logical for them to ask how to improve the relatively weaker elements of Fire Emblem, which are unit growth and characters interactions. I think Three Houses is the answer of this question. We still need to see the actual result, but as a FE fan since GBA era, I am very excited towards Three Houses.
I'm also a fan from GBA days and enjoyed the 3DS games. I just don't want them to copy a franchise (Persona) that I personally dislike and I feel like is a bad fit for the FE series. Mute self insert main character that is beloved by everyone is a big meh from me.
 

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I also like the color, but the character placements are weird as fuck...

Whereas the cover art of Echoes is vastly superior because it tells a story. Alm and Celica facing different direction yet still sticking together is a metaphor, representing their different ideologies and actions in the main story.
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I'm also a fan from GBA days and enjoyed the 3DS games. I just don't want them to copy a franchise (Persona) that I personally dislike and I feel like is a bad fit for the FE series. Mute self insert main character that is beloved by everyone is a big meh from me.
I see. I don't like "harem" setting as well, but let's wait and see how the story goes.
 

casiopao

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Because it was never promoted or released as a big new mainline entry. It ha a fraction of the marketing Awakening/Fates had and was released to a dying 3DS just when the Switch was releasing with BOTW and stuff. It's a passion remake of the least popular game in the series and that still sold well.

Awakening and Fates still feel like FE. There's no need for a self insert or copying Persona 5.


I'm also a fan from GBA days and enjoyed the 3DS games. I just don't want them to copy a franchise (Persona) that I personally dislike and I feel like is a bad fit for the FE series. Mute self insert main character that is beloved by everyone is a big meh from me.

Echoes is released during FEH peak popularity. Thats why many predicted that the cross marketing push will make sure Echoes sold better than what we currently had. Sadly it never happen. And 3ds is not dead at that time kek.

I dont see the school setting as copying Persona as there had many other games that had school setting before Persona.

I just hope the game wont follow the day by day basis that Persona popularized that i really hate.
 

Alblowi

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Speaking of Nintendo games doing better on Switch than their predecessors, I feel like Pikmin 4 could show a huge growth on the Switch.
Looking back at the history of the series all the main Pikmin games were released on a failed console (GameCube and WiiU) yet they still managed to sell decently.

-using Game Data Library:
Code:
NGC    Pikmin                        |    101.299    |    502.996    |    26/10/2001
NGC    Pikmin 2                    |    161.930    |    483.027    |    29/04/2004
WII    New Play Control! Pikmin 2    |    28.256    |    237.064    |    12/03/2009
WIU    Pikmin 3                      |    102.188    |    232.313    |    13/07/2013
WII    New Play Control! Pikmin      |    48.229    |    170.866    |    25/12/2008
3DS    Hey! Pikmin                    |    79.517    |    159.805    |    13/07/2017


This will be the first time a main Pikmin game release on a successful platform.
I expect it to sell 1 million or close to it if Pikmin 4 retain the series quality.
 

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Echoes is released during FEH peak popularity. Thats why many predicted that the cross marketing push will make sure Echoes sold better than what we currently had. Sadly it never happen. And 3ds is not dead atm kek.
It literally released one month after the Switch. The only thing Nintendo was promoting at the time was the Switch and BOTW, which were all the buzz at the time. Attention on 3DS was completely dead at the time.

Anyway, the producers themselves said sales were good and that they made it with a smaller team just to reuse the 3DS engine because it was easy to develop with it and that was their last chance to do something else with it before moving on to Switch, it probably had a decent enough RoI.
 

HK-47

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Xcom is srpg? I thought it is pure strategy game like advance war?



Sadly, the more deeper they go with My unit the more the game had sold better while Echoes low number kinda shows that no one really cared about old FE style anymore.(also not helped that Echoes sucks)
You can level your characters, choose classes and equipment. It's got some srpg under the hood, more so in 2 and Long War
 

casiopao

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It literally released one month after the Switch. The only thing Nintendo was promoting at the time was the Switch and BOTW, which were all the buzz at the time. Attention on 3DS was completely dead at the time.

Anyway, the producers themselves said sales were good and that they made it with a smaller team just to reuse the 3DS engine because it was easy to develop with it and that was their last chance to do something else with it before moving on to Switch, it probably had a decent enough RoI.

I dont doubt that it sold okay enough to be profitable. I just feel Echoes and its whole scream missoportunities. It had much better chance of selling even better if the polish more of the map design but sadly they did not and thats all we got.
 

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You know, if anything shows that Japan is an afterthought for Capcom, it's not the lack of switch titles. It's the fact that the dialogue in their latest mainline games appear to have been written and dubbed in English first, with awkward Japanese subtitles and mismatched lip syncing for the domestic market. I feel bad for Japanese Resident Evil fans who waited 2, because they're not getting the best of what the game has to offer. I was looking forward to going back and forth between both languages to keep the game fresh, but the Japanese dub and dialogue just isn't good.
 

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You know, if anything shows that Japan is an afterthought for Capcom, it's not the lack of switch titles. It's the fact that the dialogue in their latest mainline games appear to have been written and dubbed in English first, with awkward Japanese subtitles and mismatched lip syncing for the domestic market. I feel bad for Japanese Resident Evil fans who waited 2, because they're not getting the best of what the game has to offer. I was looking forward to going back and forth between both languages to keep the game fresh, but the Japanese dub and dialogue just isn't good.
The lip sync for English in RE2 and DMCV is also quite bad.
 
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Famitsu Sales: Week 10, 2019 (Mar 04 - Mar 10)

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02./02. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 23.246 / 2.932.272 <80-100%> (-2%)
03./03. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 16.914 / 502.645 <80-100%> (-15%)
04./06. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980) - 11.715 / 1.451.093 <80-100%> (-13%)
05./09. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 10.650 / 2.206.180 <80-100%> (+2%)
06./10. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 10.233 / 671.464 <80-100%> (+3%)
07./00. [3DS] Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.07} (¥4.980) - 9.456 / NEW <20-40%>
08./13. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 7.700 / 2.997.052 <80-100%> (-8%)
09./14. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 7.046 / 964.970 <80-100%> (-10%)
10./15. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 6.715 / 1.257.386 <80-100%> (+7%)
11./01. [PS4] Dead or Alive 6 # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2019.03.01} (¥7.800) - 5.301 / 30.177 <60-80%> (-79%)
12./12. [PS4] Jump Force <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.02.14} (¥8.200) - 4.890 / 112.653 <80-100%> (-47%)
13./11. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800) - 4.858 / 794.861 <80-100%> (-50%)
14./04. [PS4] Anthem # <RPG> (Electronic Arts) {2019.02.22} (¥7.800) - 4.792 / 103.677 <80-100%> (-73%)
15./18. [PS4] Resident Evil 2 # <ADV> (Capcom) {2019.01.25} (¥7.800) - 4.414 / 377.783 <80-100%> (-12%)
16./05. [PS4] Left Alive # <ACT> (Square Enix) {2019.02.28} (¥8.300) - 3.815 / 21.033 <40-60%> (-78%)
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18./08. [NSW] Zoids Wild: King of Blast <ACT> (Takara Tomy) {2019.02.28} (¥5.980) - 2.548 / 13.204 <40-60%> (-76%)
19./22. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMIX <Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 ReMIX <Kingdom Hearts \ Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories> \ Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX <Kingdom Hearts II \ Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ \ Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep>> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.03.09} (¥6.800) - 2.531 / 278.828 <80-100%> (-4%)
20./25. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} (¥6.100) - 2.475 / 311.169 <80-100%> (+1%)
21./23. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 2.472 / 1.945.549 <80-100%> (-1%)
22./26. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} (¥5.980) - 2.469 / 700.198 <80-100%> (+2%)
23./17. [PS4] Far Cry: New Dawn <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.02.15} (¥5.400) - 2.428 / 47.656 <60-80%> (-52%)
24./21. [NSW] Dragon Quest Builders 2 <ADV> (Square Enix) {2018.12.20} (¥7.800) - 2.268 / 254.812 <80-100%> (-15%)
25./27. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 2.172 / 2.460.781 <80-100%> (-2%)
26./19. [NSW] Doraemon: Nobita no Getsumen Tansaki <ADV> (FuRyu) {2019.02.28} (¥5.980) - 2.112 / 6.703 <20-40%> (-54%)
27./00. [NSW] Fitness Boxing <HOB> (Imagineer) {2018.12.20} (¥5.800) - 1.744 / 28.141 <60-80%> (+16%)
28./00. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders 2 <ADV> (Square Enix) {2018.12.20} (¥7.800) - 1.731 / 223.361 <80-100%>
29./20. [PS4] Metro: Exodus <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2019.02.15} (¥7.800) - 1.570 / 29.067 <60-80%> (-47%)
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Encephalon

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Yeah for sure, just pointing out that somehow Capcom is getting worse at bothering with details like this even in the "native" version, compared to the RE5 era.

I don't remember RE2 being that bad in terms of lip sync outside of a scene or two, but I'll have to pay closer attention the second time around. Some of the beginning of DMC5 is a little off.
 

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You know, if anything shows that Japan is an afterthought for Capcom, it's not the lack of switch titles. It's the fact that the dialogue in their latest mainline games appear to have been written and dubbed in English first, with awkward Japanese subtitles and mismatched lip syncing for the domestic market. I feel bad for Japanese Resident Evil fans who waited 2, because they're not getting the best of what the game has to offer. I was looking forward to going back and forth between both languages to keep the game fresh, but the Japanese dub and dialogue just isn't good.
Remember when they announced the Street Fighter Collection in Japan would only use the western versions of the games and pissed off japanese fans including Hideki Kamiya?

Or what about that time they released Marvel vs Capcom Infinite without ANY japanese dub at all? They got a bunch of 1/5 stars ratings on Amazon.jp over this.

It's simply not their focus at all.
 

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Fitness boxing with another gain.

If someone had told me that Imagineer's Fitness Boxing will probably outsell the next mainline Dead or Alive game (LTD), I would have said they were crazy. But here we are.
 

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So King Zell heavily hinted at Monster Hunter getting a new game on Switch next. Hopefully people here will finally keep it cool about their anxiety regarding this IP.
 

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Monster hunter on switch and monster hunter world elsewhere would maybe put the end of the infamous toxicity of the MH talks on era.

Ho come on, who am I kidding
 

cw_sasuke

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A new MH game hitting the Switch around 2 years after World was always the plan.

Early 2020 sounds about right. Question is if they will go for a worldwide simultaneous release - I think it's very likely.
 

casiopao

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So King Zell heavily hinted at Monster Hunter getting a new game on Switch next. Hopefully people here will finally keep it cool about their anxiety regarding this IP.

...... i am not optimistic because we are talking cac lol.

But..... if.. Big IF it happen. What will switch get? World port? A new line like evolution of MH XXX?
 

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A new MH game hitting the Switch around 2 years after World was always the plan.

Early 2020 sounds about right.
I feel like it's a late 2019 release, like December. Also think if it's not announced this month, it's a big E3 announcement.

Which would make the year super overkill. A year with Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Dragon Quest, Yokai Watch and Monster Hunter in a same system is just way too much. HW sales would be crazy.

...... i am not optimistic because we are talking cac lol.

But..... if.. Big IF it happen. What will switch get? World port? A new line like evolution of MH XXX?
New game from portable team. Likely downgraded World assets.
 

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I feel like it's a late 2019 release, like December. Also think if it's not announced this month, it's a big E3 announcement.

Which would make the year super overkill. A year with Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Dragon Quest, Yokai Watch and Monster Hunter in a same system is just way too much. HW sales would be crazy.


New game from portable team. Likely downgraded World assets.
Seems like you already write down why late 201ö is unlikely...it will already be very business and I'm pretty sure Capcom x Nintendo will want to release this game worldwide at the same time - I don't see that happening in late 2019 and Capcom hates to compete against western fall AAA releases.

Worldwide release by Feb or March 2020 seems more likely to me. Just as Capcom wanted it - dropping their biggest game after AC, Pokemon and co. have expanded the install base by a bit.

No doubt is that it will be bundled with the new revision of the Switch worldwide.
 

Delio

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So King Zell heavily hinted at Monster Hunter getting a new game on Switch next. Hopefully people here will finally keep it cool about their anxiety regarding this IP.

It's hard to get all happy about it until its announced. I do trust Zell but I dont trust Capcom with the Switch so eh? If it happens it happens and I dont expect it till next year if so.
 

casiopao

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It's hard to get all happy about it until its announced. I do trust Zell but I dont trust Capcom with the Switch so eh? If it happens it happens and I dont expect it till next year if so.

If it happen, i hope we will more generations style of game with even more monsters lol. World had smaller roster of monster there.
 

Oregano

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90% of the Three Houses hate is copy and pasted from Xenoblade 2 hate.

"Too anime"
"Bad graphics"
"Boring Direct segment"
"Too anime"