How a comment about Kirby's legs can be related to a comment about Kirby's opening...?
I think we should wait some more weeks. If it can hang around 3-4k for some weeks then Golden Week might provide a boost and allow the game to keep selling.
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Media Create Sales: Week 11, 2018 (Mar 12 - Mar 18)
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How a comment about Kirby's legs can be related to a comment about Kirby's opening...?
I think we should wait some more weeks. If it can hang around 3-4k for some weeks then Golden Week might provide a boost and allow the game to keep selling.
As Chris alluded to, with Splatoon 2 its likely that Amazon for whatever reason had a large supply of Splatoon 2 bundles, which are tracked by MC and not famitsu.
By the time S3 arrives the game will be long dead and forgotten.
Comparison between Attack on Titan (18-02-2016) and Attack on Titan 2 (15-03-2018):
FW more than halved compared to the first game. In that sense, it's kind of the expected result :P
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02./00. [PSV] Attack on Titan # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.02.18} (¥6.800) - 62.111 / NEW (41,2%)
03./00. [PS4] Attack on Titan # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.02.18} (¥7.800) - 61.156 / NEW (40,6%)
08./00. [PS3] Attack on Titan # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.02.18} (¥7.800) - 27.415 / NEW (18,2%)
Total: 150.682
03./00. [PS4] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 28.480 / NEW (42,7%)
04./00. [NSW] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 22.941 / NEW (34,4%)
08./00. [PSV] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥6.800) - 15.261 / NEW (22,9%)
Total: 66.682 (-55,7%)FW more than halved compared to the first game. In that sense, it's kind of the expected result :P
Unless there are extraordinary supply constraints, by 3rd week you would see evidence of legs showing up. Not a 50% drop from 2nd week.
Damn Kirby launch was great! MHW no longer at #1 :(
I didn't even like the new Kirby but I guess this is cool
Wonder how Ni no Kuni 2 will do, don't think the first one did that great in Japan. Also kinda curious if Sea of Thieves will even chart
RIP Devil May Cry HD and Gal Gun 2 on Switch
I didn't even like the new Kirby but I guess this is cool
Wonder how Ni no Kuni 2 will do, don't think the first one did that great in Japan. Also kinda curious if Sea of Thieves will even chart
RIP Devil May Cry HD and Gal Gun 2 on Switch
Hm, thought it would start airing in April, but it's July. Yeah, that's too far off. It's a shame. Maybe they should've waited with the release until closer to the start of the anime season...
All these ports are for a Global audience to begin with - i think people overestimate the importance of jpn sales for these games. They will sell okay or well enough - but at the end they are just here to fill up the release schedule and improve the library options.
These games (at least the main Nintendo) ones will sell for years i doubt anyone at Nintendo will be stressed about initial Japan only sales when they know how well their software catalogue does over Holidays.
Those are really bad numbers for AoT. Switch is ok-ish but that's it.
This is a week with 11 new entries, that doesn't leave a lot of space for established titles!
Do we still get Vink's updates?
Curious about whether or not Switch is still supply-constrained in Japan. It'll be interesting to see if there's a bump come Labo next month.
Curious about whether or not Switch is still supply-constrained in Japan. It'll be interesting to see if there's a bump come Labo next month.
Naw. Still too early.
Bayonetta was always gonna come and go. Same with Hyrule Warriors give Fire Emblem Warriors and every other Musou game has had shit legs the last few years.
DK is the next test.
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This game won't top 200k and Sega shows signs of extending Yakuza milking.
Right- I think it would/could have done significantly better if it was released before the sequel was announced.
Yes MHW did amazingly well but still it doesn't look like it will have the same long-lasting impact that series had to PSP sales for example. The novelty of this new formula sure helped it a lot to be a system seller but that series still probably remains a portable centric one mainly. We all know what that means...
ARMS followed a similar path and here we go. Not saying it will happen for sure, but a wait-and-see approach is better.
Great start for Kirby. 900K-1M is potentially on the cards.
Couple this to Benji's comments in the NPD thread and the game's early performance in Europe, and I'm wondering if Kirby might join Zelda and 3D Mario in having its Switch entry be the franchise's best seller.
Couple this to Benji's comments in the NPD thread and the game's early performance in Europe, and I'm wondering if Kirby might join Zelda and 3D Mario in having its Switch entry be the franchise's best seller.
ARMS started out from a much higher spot though. We'll see. Not seeing any evidence of it right now.
Famitsu, next week, 4m for Switch:
3.985.581
So close:
02./00. [PS4] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 28.807 / NEW <40-60%>
03./00. [NSW] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 28.099 / NEW <60-80%>
3.985.581
So close:
02./00. [PS4] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 28.807 / NEW <40-60%>
03./00. [NSW] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 28.099 / NEW <60-80%>
Switch vs Wii
PS4 vs PS3
Mario Odyssey vs Splatoon 2
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| | Nintendo Wii | Nintendo Switch | Difference |
| | (2006/12/02) | (2017/03/03) | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | NSW - Wii |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 53| 74.764|3.945.429| 45.083|3.802.910| -142.519|
| 54| 115.057|4.060.486| 45.084|3.847.994| -212.492|
| 55| 170.558|4.231.044| 54.342|3.902.336| -328.708|
| 56| 232.907|4.463.951| | | |
| 57| 152.209|4.616.160| | | |
| 58| 207.797|4.823.957| | | |
| 59| 84.530|4.908.487| | | |
| 60| 81.638|4.990.125| | | |
| 61| 74.544|5.064.669| | | |
| 62| 94.473|5.159.142| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|PS4 vs PS3
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| | PlayStation 3 | PlayStation 4 | Difference |
| | (2006/11/11) | (2014/02/22) | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | PS4 - PS3 |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 211| 29.058|5.744.842| 26.569|6.511.985| 767.143|
| 211| 68.840|5.813.682| 28.363|6.540.348| 726.666|
| 213| 41.760|5.855.442| 22.627|6.562.975| 707.533|
| 214| 41.882|5.897.324| | | |
| 215| 49.515|5.946.839| | | |
| 216| 64.228|6.011.067| | | |
| 217| 76.422|6.087.489| | | |
| 218| 59.612|6.147.102| | | |
| 219| 33.190|6.180.292| | | |
| 220| 23.792|6.204.084| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|Mario Odyssey vs Splatoon 2
How can there be almost 100k of difference between Media Create and Famitsu regarding Switch sales?
Above Crystal (1.9m), on par with Emerald (2.2m), below Platinum (2.6m) and Black 2/White 2 (3m).
We're missing a lot of digital for MHW. Wait til the digital estimates come out for Feb. That should be soon right?
PS4 is in desperate need of a price cut. Don't know why Sony didn't try to keep zp the Monster Hunter momentum by slashing the price.
Kirby numbers are great.
We haven't had another third version since Black 2 White 2, which was at about 2.5 million a month after launch. USUM is tracking substantially less. The games don't have a very positive reputation though and the 3DS does have a smaller install base, so it's still impressive, but I think most fans didn't seem the minuscule improvements as worth it and are ready to move on to the next generation of games.
If PS4 really goes sub-20k next week the PS4 vs PS3 comparison chart will take an interesting turn.
It's just indirectly the same idea. You said Kirby's opening (a strong new game) might have dampened the legs of the evergreens title, and I was saying Kirby's legs probably won't be dampened for a long time because of the lack of new games. It relates to the same notion.
Disclaimer- this is not meant to in any way downplay or disparage MH World sales which are incredible and way more than anyone's wildest expectations.I was completely wrong.
That said- right now its not showing much evidence of a long tail and unless digital sales keep their insane ratio I'm skeptical it will get to 3M.
That said- right now its not showing much evidence of a long tail and unless digital sales keep their insane ratio I'm skeptical it will get to 3M.
Comparisons for bigger new releases (Retail only via MediaCreate and Famitsu - older titles with their most recent LTD update based on CY Top 1000s)
01./00. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} (¥5.980) - 222.031 / NEW
03./00. [PS4] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 28.480 / NEW
04./00. [NSW] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 22.941 / NEW
08./00. [PSV] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥6.800) - 15.261 / NEW
11./00. [PS4] Winning Post 8 2018 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 8.459 / NEW
17./00. [PSV] Winning Post 8 2018 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥6.800) - 3.837 / NEW
18./00. [NSW] Winning Post 8 2018 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 3.745 / NEW
*Famitsu
16./00. [PS4] Gal Gun 2 # <ACT> (Inti Creates) {2018.03.15} (¥6.980) - 4.728 / NEW <40-60%>
23./00. [NSW] Gal Gun 2 # <ACT> (Inti Creates) {2018.03.15} (¥6.980) - 2.622 / NEW <40-60%>
01./00. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} (¥5.980) - 222.031 / NEW
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[WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800) - 136.811 / 835.391
[3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.571) - 214.208 / 816.903
[3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 144.846 / 517.00103./00. [PS4] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 28.480 / NEW
04./00. [NSW] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 22.941 / NEW
08./00. [PSV] Attack on Titan 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥6.800) - 15.261 / NEW
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[PSV] Attack on Titan: Wings of Freedom # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.02.18} (¥6.800) - 62.111 / 142.764
[PS4] Attack on Titan: Wings of Freedom # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.02.18} (¥7.800) - 61.156 / 102.076
[PS3] Attack on Titan: Wings of Freedom # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.02.18} (¥7.800) - 27.415 / 55.52511./00. [PS4] Winning Post 8 2018 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 8.459 / NEW
17./00. [PSV] Winning Post 8 2018 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥6.800) - 3.837 / NEW
18./00. [NSW] Winning Post 8 2018 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} (¥7.800) - 3.745 / NEW
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[PS4] Winning Post 8 2016 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.03.31} (¥7.800) - 8.367 / 20.155
[PSV] Winning Post 8 2016 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.03.31} (¥6.800) - 6.166 / 16.264
[PS3] Winning Post 8 2016 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.03.31} (¥7.200) - 4.472 / 11.304
[PS4] Winning Post 8 2017 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2017.03.02} (¥7.800) - 5.793 / NEW*Famitsu
16./00. [PS4] Gal Gun 2 # <ACT> (Inti Creates) {2018.03.15} (¥6.980) - 4.728 / NEW <40-60%>
23./00. [NSW] Gal Gun 2 # <ACT> (Inti Creates) {2018.03.15} (¥6.980) - 2.622 / NEW <40-60%>
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[360] Gal Gun # <ACT> (Alchemist) {2011.01.27} - 11.114 / 15.318
[PS3] Gal Gun # <ACT> (Alchemist) {2012.02.23} (¥7.140) - 9.981 / 15.025
[PSV] Gal Gun: Double Peace # <ACT> (Alchemist) {2015.08.06} (¥7.344) - 6.908 / 6.908
[PS4] Gal Gun: Double Peace # <ACT> (Alchemist) {2015.08.06} (¥8.424) - 4.926 / 4.926
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Really nice numbers for Kirby and Switch and it looks like the honeymoon with Monster Hunter World and PS4 is over. I thought there where weekly reports of it being supply constraint, was that not simply the case?
I honestly don't think a price drop would help that much for PS4. It would be a temporary boost for sales but the writing is on the wall and while MonHun has sold very well on PS4 It was never going to boost PS4 baseline like it looks now.
Well I think that PS3 will have the advantage for a few months now it looks like?
I honestly don't think a price drop would help that much for PS4. It would be a temporary boost for sales but the writing is on the wall and while MonHun has sold very well on PS4 It was never going to boost PS4 baseline like it looks now.
Well I think that PS3 will have the advantage for a few months now it looks like?
Yeah if AOT2 did this bad in Japan then I can only imagine what it does elsewhere.
Think it's safe to say Odyssey isn't catching Splatoon 2 in Japan.Mario Odyssey vs Splatoon 2
The game sold 66k with all versions together. I think those numbers are good.
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