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2013 Q3 {2013.10.01 - 2013.12.31} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.571) - 4.340.000 / 4.340.000
2013 Q4 {2014.01.01 - 2014.03.31} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.571) - 40.000 / 4.370.000

2014 Q3 {2014.10.01 - 2014.12.31} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.571) - 2.920.000 / 2.920.000
2014 Q4 {2015.01.01 - 2015.03.31} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.571) - 50.000 / 2.970.000

2016 Q3 {2016.10.01 - 2016.12.31} [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 3.810.000 / 3.810.000
2016 Q4 {2017.01.01 - 2017.03.31} [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 20.000 / 3.830.000

2017 Q3 {2017.10.01 - 2017.12.31} [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 2.370.000 / 2.370.000
2017 Q4 {2018.01.01 - 2018.03.31} [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 70.000 / 2.440.000

2018 Q3 {2018.10.01 - 2018.12.31} [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980) - 1.850.000 / 1.850.000
2018 Q4 {2019.01.01 - 2019.03.31} [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980) - 80.000 / 1.930.000

2019 Q3 {2019.10.01 - 2019.12.31} [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980) - 4.210.000 / 4.210.000
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Famitsu Sales: Week 13, 2014 (Mar 24 - Mar 30)
27./26. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.571) - 8.136 / 4.328.008 <97,40%> (+9%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 13, 2015 (Mar 23 - Mar 29)
26./19. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.571) - 7.288 / 2.767.720 <80-100%> (+6%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 13, 2017 (Mar 20 - Mar 26)
06./12. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 10.290 / 3.718.526 <80-100%> (-7%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 13, 2018 (Mar 26 - Apr 01)
16./16. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 5.258 / 2.203.489 <80-100%> (-18%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 13, 2019 (Mar 25 - Mar 31)
09./14. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980) - 9.227 / 1.479.158 <80-100%> (-5%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 13, 2020 (Mar 23 - Mar 29)
04./04. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980) - 14.996 / 3.542.524 <80-100%> (-15%)

Thanks. It will be interesting how its weekly sales will be affected by the increase in installed base. I guess it will keep selling well over time.

These pictures of Switch/Animal Crossing demand three weeks out from the game's launch remind me of the DS situation. Animal Crossing may be that catalyst in Japan. I knew it was going to push units but not at this volume. It is bringing in a new audience.

It will be interesting to see how Brain Training and Clubhouse Games perform over the next few months. If they can ever ramp up production on RingFit that could see monstrous sales too.

And it's crazy because that's happening at the beginning of Switch fourth year in the market---showing that there has always been an untapped audience ready to jump in despite Mario, Splatoon and Pokémon were already on the platform. DS boom happened in 2005/2006, that is 1-2 years after launch.
 

Piston

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It's time to release…the Nintendogs.
I agree.

I will also continue to be the biggest advocate for a Switch Sports title. Imagine a good, robust Switch Sports title out right now that had a solid online mode (yes, I know, Nintendo).
And it's crazy because that's happening at the beginning of Switch fourth year in the market---showing that there has always been an untapped audience ready to jump in despite Mario, Splatoon and Pokémon were already on the platform. DS boom happened in 2005/2006, that is 1-2 years after launch.
I think Nintendo's release pathway with the Switch has been the right one. They focused on locking down their core fandom with the first year to ensure that they wouldn't bomb out of the console market and have been gradually pushing to expand out towards that original Blue Ocean strategy as they have been more confident in the base success of the Switch.

If I were them, from here I would go Animal Crossing/RingFit/Club House Games --> Switch Sports/Nintendogs/Tomodatchi Life --> 3D Mario games --> Zelda/Metroid/Bayonetta/Pikmin/Pokemon. That provides a nice closed loop to come back full circle from their first year and leaves everyone satisfied and could potentially push some of their expanded audience into their core franchises like they have been doing with Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and even Zelda.
 
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Gay Bowser

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I think Nintendo's release pathway with the Switch has been the right one. They focused on locking down their core fandom with the first year to ensure that they wouldn't bomb out of the console market and have been gradually pushing to expand out towards that original Blue Ocean strategy as they have been more confident in the base success of the Switch.

Yeah, this is the right strategy. Get the core on board with a Zelda and then expand outwards. This is why making Nintendogs the big 3DS launch title was such a mistake, despite that franchise's sales pedigree; you're not going to get the enthusiast early adopter set on board with Nintendogs. Even the Wii had Twilight Princess alongside Wii Sports. I think a Wii that launched with just Wii Sports and Wii Play would have received a much chillier reception from the Nintendo faithful.

It'll be interesting to see Nintendo's launch strategy for the Switch 2, since that almost certainly will not be able to launch with a big new Zelda unless it is coming way sooner (or later, I suppose) than we think.
 

Aleh

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Yeah, this is the right strategy. Get the core on board with a Zelda and then expand outwards. This is why making Nintendogs the big 3DS launch title was such a mistake, despite that franchise's sales pedigree; you're not going to get the enthusiast early adopter set on board with Nintendogs. Even the Wii had Twilight Princess alongside Wii Sports. I think a Wii that launched with just Wii Sports and Wii Play would have received a much chillier reception from the Nintendo faithful.

It'll be interesting to see Nintendo's launch strategy for the Switch 2, since that almost certainly will not be able to launch with a big new Zelda unless it is coming way sooner (or later, I suppose) than we think.
I think the best title to launch with the Switch 2 will be a brand new Mario Kart
 

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K Samedi

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I think the best title to launch with the Switch 2 will be a brand new Mario Kart
I think a Switch 2 or pro will come early. Nintendo won't risk going into a decline when they only have one platform. We know that Zelda is in development and probably on track for next year so that would serm like the perfect launch title for it.
 

Fularu

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Lines

3 weeks after the game's release. Madness, pure madness

Also lines should be fine as long as people don't touch each other and are orderly, which Japanese and Korean people usually are
 

ZSaberLink

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Lines

3 weeks after the game's release. Madness, pure madness

Also lines should be fine as long as people don't touch each other and are orderly, which Japanese and Korean people usually are
Reports say Covid19 can spread from simply talking and breathing near someone... I hope everyone in there is healthy.
 

Fularu

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Reports say Covid19 can spread from simply talking and breathing near someone... I hope everyone in there is healthy.
Reports say covid isn't airborne. Unless that person talking to you is spraying saliva all over you... wear latex gloves, don't touch your face, stay within respectable distance from others in an orderly fashion

The issue is that most westerners have no idea how to stay in line in an orderly fashion and it degenerates into chaos. Look at the lines here, people are spread apart, are calm and no one is trying to cut lines

Compare that with your typical grocery store or costco line in north america and the difference is striking
 

Piston

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Yeah, this is the right strategy. Get the core on board with a Zelda and then expand outwards. This is why making Nintendogs the big 3DS launch title was such a mistake, despite that franchise's sales pedigree; you're not going to get the enthusiast early adopter set on board with Nintendogs. Even the Wii had Twilight Princess alongside Wii Sports. I think a Wii that launched with just Wii Sports and Wii Play would have received a much chillier reception from the Nintendo faithful.

It'll be interesting to see Nintendo's launch strategy for the Switch 2, since that almost certainly will not be able to launch with a big new Zelda unless it is coming way sooner (or later, I suppose) than we think.
Mario Kart paired with a more substantial singleplayer game is a really strong launch window. I don't think this is smart worldwide but seeing Metroid Prime 4 be a focal point near a system launch would be really cool.
 

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Y'all thinking too small with this switch 2..... switch 1 has a life ahead of it that will be very long. Switch 2 probably going to come out in 2024 and that means MK9 will come out for switch in 2021/2022 and a deluxe in 2024

edit: I know this because I know things :)
 

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Y'all thinking too small with this switch 2..... switch 1 has a life ahead of it that will be very long. Switch 2 probably going to come out in 2024 and that means MK9 will come out for switch in 2021/2022 and a deluxe in 2024

0 chances
Even if Switch 2 isnt a thing for another four years, there wont be another MK till then.
 

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Y'all thinking too small with this switch 2..... switch 1 has a life ahead of it that will be very long. Switch 2 probably going to come out in 2024 and that means MK9 will come out for switch in 2021/2022 and a deluxe in 2024

edit: I know this because I know things :)

Deluxe wrecks everything cause few people had the original. A deluxe version of a wildly popular game wouldn't move so much units.
 

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Reports say Covid19 can spread from simply talking and breathing near someone... I hope everyone in there is healthy.
Japanese people are very disciplined, if they are sick or feeling ill they will wear masks, not necessarily protecting themselves but the others and as you can see in the pictures most of them wear masks, likely because of the pandemic we are seeing happening right now. People having the Virus will most likely wear masks making infecting others very hard for the Virus. Sure you can't be 100% certain and having so many people in a crowded manner is not so great but if any country can do it, then it's Japan.

-If I were there, I would feel safer than in a general super market with a ton of people not wearing masks to be honest.
 

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Even if Switch 2 isnt a thing for another four years, there wont be another MK till then.

0 as in Nada? As in 0%? As in Impossible? Who do you know that works for Nintendo and how did you acquire this information?

On a more serious note, this is the first time a Mario kart game is a port and we haven't got one this generation. So there is no guarantee on if it's coming or not. No pattern, no history unless your sticking to the 1 per generation (per console)?
I still believe there can be a Mario kart 9 on switch (then a port of a deluxe version) especially if it's having a much longer life than a normal console
 

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Deluxe wrecks everything cause few people had the original. A deluxe version of a wildly popular game wouldn't move so much units.

that is a solid point, as well as the fact that MK8D will become probably the highest selling game on a single platform ever. I just don't think it's guaranteed. A Mario kart 9 for a launch is a pretty damn good idea, but there could be a release of it on switch imo
 

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0 as in Nada? As in 0%? As in Impossible? Who do you know that works for Nintendo and how did you acquire this information?

On a more serious note, this is the first time a Mario kart game is a port and we haven't got one this generation. So there is no guarantee on if it's coming or not. No pattern, no history unless your sticking to the 1 per generation (per console)?
I still believe there can be a Mario kart 9 on switch (then a port of a deluxe version) especially if it's having a much longer life than a normal console

The fact that it's a port is irrelevant, because it's selling like a new game. Market wise, a new MK game released in April 2017. It's selling better with each year, in 2019 alone it sold eight million units (which is more than 2017 or 2018). By all accounts it will sell even more than that in 2020.

The general curve of decline for the game indicates to me a need for replacement no earlier than 2022-2023. At this point, you just wait for the next console launch.
 

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The fact that it's a port is irrelevant, because it's selling like a new game. Market wise, a new MK game released in April 2017. It's selling better with each year, in 2019 alone it sold eight million units (which is more than 2017 or 2018). By all accounts it will sell even more than that in 2020.

The general curve of decline for the game indicates to me a need for replacement no earlier than 2022-2023. At this point, you just wait for the next console launch.

I know it's selling like a new game, Zelda BotW is also selling like a new game (4.5mil+ shipped last year) yet it's getting a sequel. I'm not saying a MK9 is even needed for the switch. Like you and others have stated, it's selling and that's an understatement. It'll end up as the highest selling sku of all time in a few years.

All I'm saying is if switch is having a longer life than what normal is (5years?) then releasing a new Mario kart to keep sales afloat/going is a possibility. I don't believe MK9 is set in stone yet for switch 2 only. Too early to be making calls for a system that just started 4th year and has another 3-4years left to sell after that
 

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I know it's selling like a new game, Zelda BotW is also selling like a new game (4.5mil+ shipped last year) yet it's getting a sequel. I'm not saying a MK9 is even needed for the switch. Like you and others have stated, it's selling and that's an understatement. It'll end up as the highest selling sku of all time in a few years.

All I'm saying is if switch is having a longer life than what normal is (5years?) then releasing a new Mario kart to keep sales afloat/going is a possibility. I don't believe MK9 is set in stone yet for switch 2 only
BOTW is getting a sequel so fast because it's a singleplayer game
 

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Switch Publisher Rankings: Famitsu Week 13, 2020
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First Party Sales = 826,111
Third Party Sales = 110,769

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Switch Games under 1000k - Week 47, 2019
 
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I know it's selling like a new game, Zelda BotW is also selling like a new game (4.5mil+ shipped last year) yet it's getting a sequel. I'm not saying a MK9 is even needed for the switch. Like you and others have stated, it's selling and that's an understatement. It'll end up as the highest selling sku of all time in a few years.

All I'm saying is if switch is having a longer life than what normal is (5years?) then releasing a new Mario kart to keep sales afloat/going is a possibility. I don't believe MK9 is set in stone yet for switch 2 only. Too early to be making calls for a system that just started 4th year and has another 3-4years left to sell after that

Well there's no userbase being split when you release a sequel to a popular, still selling, single player game on the same platform.

I would put MK9 not releasing on the Switch at 99.9%. Obviously nothing is impossible, but it's as close to a certainly as anything
 

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I know it's selling like a new game, Zelda BotW is also selling like a new game (4.5mil+ shipped last year) yet it's getting a sequel. I'm not saying a MK9 is even needed for the switch. Like you and others have stated, it's selling and that's an understatement. It'll end up as the highest selling sku of all time in a few years.

All I'm saying is if switch is having a longer life than what normal is (5years?) then releasing a new Mario kart to keep sales afloat/going is a possibility. I don't believe MK9 is set in stone yet for switch 2 only. Too early to be making calls for a system that just started 4th year and has another 3-4years left to sell after that

BOTW is not selling nearly as much as MK8DX though, which is a key difference. By the time the sequel will release, it will have exhausted its sales potential. I expect the same for pretty much every Nintendo game, MK included. I don't see MK8DX sales potentials dire up until 2022-2023 at the earliest. And then, new game.
 

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BOTW is not selling nearly as much as MK8DX though, which is a key difference. By the time the sequel will release, it will have exhausted its sales potential. I expect the same for pretty much every Nintendo game, MK included. I don't see MK8DX sales potentials dire up until 2022-2023 at the earliest. And then, new game.

I'm betting botw will still keep selling as good with a sequel selling alongside it. (Especially if it gets the select treatment)
Same I believe Mario kart 8 deluxe will keep going for awhile and that's why no new Mario kart is needed.
With that said if the switch stays revelant for another 4-5years, a Mario kart would be perfect to keep the longevity up (if it releases let's say 2022).

Anyways it's just my opinion. Only game I don't see having another title in the switches life is super smash bro's. Splatoon can have a spin-off
 

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MK9 will come out for switch in 2021/2022 and a deluxe in 2024

edit: I know this because I know things :)

get verified or gtfo

All I'm saying is if switch is having a longer life than what normal is (5years?) then releasing a new Mario kart to keep sales afloat/going is a possibility. I don't believe MK9 is set in stone yet for switch 2 only. Too early to be making calls

That wasn't "all you were saying." That walkback, lmao
 

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get verified or gtfo



That wasn't "all you were saying." That walkback, lmao

cant take a joke? Thought that was obvious when I said I know this because I know things but next time I'll be more clearly clear!

as for the second part, I don't kno where I offended you but I was just saying it's not guaranteed. Even though I think many make good points to why it's not going to release for the switch
 

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I'm betting botw will still keep selling as good with a sequel selling alongside it. (Especially if it gets the select treatment)
Same I believe Mario kart 8 deluxe will keep going for awhile and that's why no new Mario kart is needed.
With that said if the switch stays revelant for another 4-5years, a Mario kart would be perfect to keep the longevity up (if it releases let's say 2022).

Anyways it's just my opinion. Only game I don't see having another title in the switches life is super smash bro's. Splatoon can have a spin-off

I mean I agree with the release date of 2022-2023, I just don't think Switch has it in to keep selling for another five years.

But if it does, then sure.
 

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I mean I agree with the release date of 2022-2023, I just don't think Switch has it in to keep selling for another five years.

But if it does, then sure.

FY
2016: 2.92mil (Launch)
2017: 15.05mil (Shortages/etc)
2018: 16.95mil
2019: *20mil+ (Switch Lite)
Total: 55mil (3years and 1quarter)

-Shortages and showing huge demand over the hardware as of now.
-another model or 2? (None will come out in 2020)
-Still haven't seen a price cut and as of now it doesn't even need it so there is still room to breathe for a longer lifespan

I think with all this the switch will continue on longer than usual. It's not looking like a 5/6year console no more imo. More of a 7/8year one

Edit: here is an example of what is a possibility to happen.

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2020: 14-15mil (shortages again)
2021: 20mil+ (peak year [Price cut holiday]
2022: 15mil (new model)
2023: 10mil
2024: 5-6mil (switch 2 launch)

Lifetime: 120mil-125mil