Media Create Sales: Week 13, 2021 (Mar 29 - Apr 04)

Caiops · Apr 11, 2021

Oregano said:
It's obviously not a straight comparison but whilst it's doing well it's significantly lagging Automata, so not sure that's a realistic expectation.

Maybe the ratio is better this time

Automata did sell 800k-1kk, so i expect great numbers for Replicant

MegaXZero · Apr 11, 2021

PillFencer said:
OK so, I did the math and it didn't work out as I expected it to.

Media Create Sales:

Week 04, 2018 (Jan 22 - Jan 28) 01./00. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 1.245.169 / NEW <92,07%>
Week 05, 2018 (Jan 29 - Feb 04) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 346.187 / 1.591.356 (-72%)
Week 06, 2018 (Feb 05 - Feb 11) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 159.613 / 1.750.969 (-54%)
Week 07, 2018 (Feb 12 - Feb 18) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 85.322 / 1.836.291 (-47%)
Week 08, 2018 (Feb 19 - Feb 25) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 53.982 / 1.890.273 (-37%)
Week 09, 2018 (Feb 26 - Mar 04) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 38.617 / 1.928.890 (-28%)
Week 10, 2018 (Mar 05 - Mar 11) 02./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 25.382 / 1.954.272 (-34%)
Week 11, 2018 (Mar 12 - Mar 18) 06./02. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 16.614 / 1.970.886 (-35%)
Week 12, 2018 (Mar 19 - Mar 25) 08./06. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 13.329 / 1.984.215 (-20%)
Week 13, 2018 (Mar 26 - Apr 01) 10./08. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 10.011 / 1.994.226 (-25%)
Week 14, 2018 (Apr 02 - Apr 08) 11./10. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 5.189 / 1.999.415 (-48%)
Week 15, 2018 (Apr 09 - Apr 15) 16./11. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 3.640 / 2.003.054 (-30%)
Week 16, 2018 (Apr 16 - Apr 22) 18./16. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 3.103 / 2.006.158 (-15%)

Week 31, 2018 (Jul 30 - Aug 05) 19./00. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [1][Best Price] # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.08.02} (¥4.990) - 4.889 / NEW <15,70%>

Week 29, 2019 (Jul 15 - Jul 21) 00./00. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [2][Best Price] <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.07.18} (¥2.990) - 3.378 / NEW <30,20%>

Week 36, 2019 (Sep 02 - Sep 08) 01./00. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition <Monster Hunter: World \ Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne> # <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.09.06} (¥6.990) - 171.129 / NEW <54,26%>

Media Create Sales: CY 2019 (2018 Dec 31 - 2019 Dec 29)

014./000. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition <Monster Hunter: World \ Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne> # <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.09.06} (¥6.990) - 443.388 / NEW
100./170. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [1][Best Price] # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.08.02} (¥4.990) - 45.537 / 69.635 (+89%)
104./000. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [2][Best Price] <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.07.18} (¥2.990) - 42.362 / NEW
870./002. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 1.189 / 2.031.129 (-100%)

Shipments:

As of January 28, 2018:
around 2 million units on PS4 (5 million units worldwide, 60% of that outside Japan, source: Capcom, via Mochizuki)

As of August 20, 2018:
around 2.9 million units on PS4 and PC, including Best Price SKU (over 10 million units worldwide, 29% of that in Japan, source: Capcom, via Famitsu)

As of early October 2020:
3.184.000 on PS4 + 236.000 on PC, total 3.420.000 (source: Capcom data leaks)

Let's take "around 2 million units" as 2.000.000 and "around 2.9 million units" as 2.900.000 and see what happens.

First week physical shipments for World are estimated to be 1.245.169 / 0,9207 = 1.352.416 units.
If World shipped 2.000.000 units in 3 days, then digital sales were 2.000.000 - 1.352.416 = 647.584 units, a 34% digital share for sell-through.

Initial shipments for the first Best Price SKU are estimated to be 4.889 / 0,157 = 31.140 units.
Since Capcom launched this SKU, it's safe to assume that they didn't ship any additional copies of the base SKU afterwards, which means that its LTD physical sell-through as of December 29, 2019 was already shipped by August 20, 2018.
Thus total physical shipments as of August 20, 2018 are estimated to be 31.140 + 2.031.129 = 2.062.269 units.
If World shipped 2.900.000 units by that point, then digital sales on PS4 and PC were 2.900.000 - 2.062.269 = 837.731 units.
In this scenario, from January 28 to August 20, physical sales for World increased ~815k while digital increased ~190k, including the PC launch.

Seems possible so far. But here comes the problem: afterwards and as of December 2019, Capcom shipped at least 443.388 + (69.635 - 31.140) + 42.362 = 524.245 physical copies to retailers. Iceborne Master Edition continued selling in 2020 (74k according to Famitsu), so you would expect total shipments as of early October 2020 to be a decent amount over 2.900.000 + 524.245 = 3.424.245 units, but they're actually reported lower at 3.420.000 units. Does this confirm that Capcom does not include the Master Edition sales into World figures? If so, then World actually sold a lot on the PSN when its price dropped and its total including the Master Edition and PC version would be around 3,9 million units. Or maybe the leaks are incorrect, or I might have made a mistake while writing this, if so then please feel free to correct me lol.

Master Edition isn't included.

MegaXZero said:
I think I actually found something interesting. I was looking at some old Capcom PR and found this from an old Q&A I don't think was ever discussed in these threads, I only found an unnoticed mention by one user in a platinum page update thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ca...f30th-1m-rankings.151646/page-4#post-26221144

For 2nd quarter, Capcom said Master Edition is actually not double counted, but only put in Iceborne.
The Japanese with google translate at least is stronger with an "only".

Lelouch0612 · Apr 11, 2021

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 --> Xenoblade Chronicles DE could be a good comparison point for Nier Automata --> Nier Replicant

Chris1964 · Apr 11, 2021

Week 14, 2021 (Apr 5 - Apr 11)

{2021.04.05}
[PS4] One Escape _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Ratalaika Games) (¥455)

[PS5] One Escape _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Ratalaika Games) (¥455)
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{2021.04.06}
[PS4] Oddworld: Soulstorm _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Oddworld Inhabitants) (¥4.500)

[PS5] Oddworld: Soulstorm _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Oddworld Inhabitants) (¥4.500)
[PS5] Destruction All Stars _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| # <RCE> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) (¥1.990)
[PS5] Destruction All Stars _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| (Digital Deluxe Edition) <RCE> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) (¥3.900)
____________

{2021.04.08}

[NSW] Muse Dash # <ACT> (Flyhigh Works) (¥3.600)
[NSW] Muse Dash (Limited Edition) <ACT> (Flyhigh Works) (¥6.800)
[NSW] Island <ADV> (Prototype) (¥5.900)
[NSW] Island (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Prototype) (¥5.636)
[NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Dokodon! Mystery Adventure (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) (¥3.455)
[NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don and Katsu's Great Time Adventure (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) (¥3.455)
[NSW] MX Vs. ATV All Out _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <RCE> (THQ Nordic Japan) (¥4.700)
[NSW] Honkaku AI Tousai Table Games: Texas Hold 'Em Poker, Mahjong, Chess, Daifugo _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <TBL> (SilverStar) (¥3.200)
[NSW] Breathedge _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (HypeTrain Digital) (¥2.336)
[NSW] Laid-Back Camp: Virtual Camp - Fumoto Campsite _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <SLG> (Gemdrops) (¥2.200)
[NSW] Goodbye Deponia _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Daedalic Entertainment) (¥2.173)
[NSW] Silence _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Daedalic Entertainment) (¥2.173)
[NSW] Songbird Symphony _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Arc System Works) (¥1.400)
[NSW] Wind Peaks _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Actoon Studio) (¥1.364)
[NSW] Cozy Grove _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (The Quantum Astrophysicists Guild) (¥1.345)
[NSW] Maiden & Spell _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <FTG> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.300)
[NSW] Stacks On Stacks On Stacks _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Herringbone Games) (¥1.200)
[NSW] Pixel Game Maker Series: Osyaberi! Horijyo! Holin Slash _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Clouds Play Company) (¥1.109)
[NSW] My Little Dog Adventure _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (EpiXR) (¥909)
[NSW] Skyland: Heart of the Mountain _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Artifex Mundi) (¥900)
[NSW] Arcade Archives: Saboten Bombers _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Hamster) (¥762)
[NSW] Graviter _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (No Gravity Games) (¥727)
[NSW] Eqqo _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Nakana) (¥545)
[NSW] Delicious! Pretty Girls Mahjong Solitaire _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <TBL> (EastAsiaSoft) (¥545)
[NSW] Airfield Mania _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Sprakelsoft) (¥505)
[NSW] Croc's World Run _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Sprakelsoft) (¥505)
[NSW] Birds and Blocks _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Sprakelsoft) (¥505)
[NSW] Bubble Bubble Ocean _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Pix Arts) (¥455)
[NSW] Candy Match Kiddies _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Pix Arts) (¥455)
[NSW] G-Mode Archives + Detective Yukikawa Rikuke Case Vol. 2: Hailouguan Murder Case _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (G-Mode) (¥455)
[NSW] Fly the Bird _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <SLG> (Pix Arts) (¥273)
[NSW] Legends of Talia: Arcadia _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Gamuzumi) (¥273)

[PS4] Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan Encore <PZL> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) (¥3.200)
[PS4] Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan Encore (ε) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <PZL> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) (¥3.200)
[PS4] MX Vs. ATV All Out _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RCE> (THQ Nordic Japan) (¥4.700)
[PS4] Laid-Back Camp: Virtual Camp - Fumoto Campsite _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <SLG> (Gemdrops) (¥2.200)
[PS4] Outbuddies DX _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Chorus Worldwide) (¥2.000)
[PS4] Songbird Symphony _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Arc System Works) (¥1.400)
[PS4] Arcade Archives: Saboten Bombers _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Hamster) (¥762)
[PS4] Delicious! Pretty Girls Mahjong Solitaire _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <TBL> (EastAsiaSoft) (¥545)
[PS4] Legends of Talia: Arcadia _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Gamuzumi) (¥300)

[PS5] Legends of Talia: Arcadia _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Gamuzumi) (¥300)
____________

{2021.04.09}
[NSW] Say No! More _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Thunderful) (¥1.800)
[NSW] Gradiently _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Hook Games) (¥455)

PillFencer · Apr 11, 2021

MegaXZero said:
Master Edition isn't included.

Thanks, I remember there was some confusion before because of the wording Capcom used in this translation and I thought we concluded the opposite. I feel dumb now lol

Charamiwa · Apr 11, 2021

Automata had really good legs. I expect Nier 1 to open strong but not do that much afterwards.

MegaXZero · Apr 11, 2021

PillFencer said:
Thanks, I remember there was some confusion before because of the wording Capcom used in this translation and I thought we concluded the opposite. I feel dumb now lol

I thought it was that Capcom in their PR about iceborne sales didn't actually preclude it from being counted twice.

Chris1964 · Apr 11, 2021

Bandai Namco Entertainment

2020/01/10 [NSW/PC] Super Robot Wars X (B.B.Studio)
2020/01/16 [PS4/XB1/PC] Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot (CyberConnect2)
2020/02/27 [PS4/XB1/PC] One Punch Man: A Hero Nobody Knows (Spike Chunsoft)
2020/03/12 [NSW/PS4/XB1/PC] My Hero: One's Justice 2 (Byking)
2020/03/26 [NSW/PS4/XB1/PC] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 (Omega Force)
2020/04/02 [NSW] Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan Encore (Monkeycraft)
2020/04/23 [NSW] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 - Road to Boruto (CyberConnect2)
2020/06/18 [NSW] Namcot Collection (M2)
2020/06/25 [NSW/PC] Mr. Driller: Drill Land (Infinity Co.)
2020/07/09 [PS4/XB1/PC] Sword Art Online: Alicization Lycoris (Aquria)
2020/07/30 [PS4] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs. MaxiBoost On (Bandai Namco Studios)
2020/07/30 [PS4] Doraemon: Story of Seasons (Brownies)
2020/08/27 [NSW/PS4/PC] Captain Tsubasa: Rise of New Champions (Tamsoft)
2020/08/27 [NSW] Jump Force: Deluxe Edition (Spike Chunsoft)
2020/09/10 [PS4/XB1/PC] Project Cars 3 (Slightly Mad Studios)
2020/09/17 [NSW] Pro Baseball Famista 2020 (Eighting)
2020/10/29 [NSW/PS4] Kamen Rider: Memory of Heroez (Natsume Atari)
2020/11/05 [PS4/XB1/PC] Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown - Premium Edition (Bandai Namco Studios)
2020/11/19 [NSW] Cats Together: Smile (Groove Box Japan)
2020/11/19 [PS4/XB1] Katamari Damacy Reroll (Monkeycraft)
2020/11/26 [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Rhythmic Adventure Pack <Taiko no Tatsujin: Don and Katsu's Great Time Adventure \ Taiko no Tatsujin: Dokodon! Mystery Adventure> (DokiDoki Groove Works)
2020/12/03 [PS4/XB1/PC] The Dark Pictures: Little Hope (Supermassive Games)
2020/12/17 [NSW] Family Trainer (h.a.n.d.)

2021/01/28 [PS5] Mobile Suit Gundam: Battle Operation 2 (B.B.Studio)
2021/02/10 [NSW/PS4/XB1/PC] Little Nightmares II (Tarsier Studios)
2021/03/25 [NSW/PS4] SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Rays - Platinum Edition (Tom Create)
2021/04/07 [NSW] Pac-Man 99 (Arika)
2021/04/08 [PS4] Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan Encore (Monkeycraft)
2021/04/22 [NSW] QuickSpot: Master of the Right Brain (?)
2021/05/13 [NSW/PS4/PS5/XB1/XBS/PC] Subnautica: Below Zero (Unknown Worlds Entertainment)
2021/06/23 [PS4/PS5/XB1/XBS/PC] Scarlet Nexus (Bandai Namco Studios)
2021/10/14 [PS4/PC] The Idolm@ster: Starlit Season (ILCA)
2021/**/** [NSW/PS4/XB1/PC] Digimon Survive (Witchcraft)
2021/**/** [PS4/PS5/XB1/XBS/PC] The Dark Pictures: House of Ashes (Supermassive Games)

****/**/** [PS4/XB1/PC] Elden Ring (From Software)
****/**/** [PS4/XB1/PC] Tales of Arise (Bandai Namco Studios)
****/**/** [NSW/PS4/PS5] Super Robot Wars 30th Anniversary (B.B.Studio)

Hero of Legend · Apr 11, 2021

Idolmaster is by ILCA who are also doing the Diamond & Pearl remakes. Also wasn't Namcot Collection/Namco Museum Archives by M2? Also Neko-Tomo/Cats Together (at least the OG release) was by Groove Box Japan.

LostCauseUnite! · Apr 11, 2021

MHR is holding well in eShop(USA), does anyone have a guess at what the number 30 cut off is for best sellers?

zroid · Apr 11, 2021

Charamiwa said:
Automata had really good legs.

it continued to sell for a long time, too

Chris1964 · Apr 11, 2021

Supply for Rise looks to have been normalised at its 3rd week, much sooner than 4 that happened at 5th. Drop at retail will give a good idea where it will end, if it follows previous games and is around 50% again it will say goodbye to 5m lifetime sales from now.

会津Aizuの復讐 · Apr 11, 2021

Chris1964 said:
If it follows previous games and is around 50% again it will say goodbye to 5m lifetime sales from now.

会津Aizuの復讐 said:
I will change my Account Image to use the same as Tbone5189 , if MHR dont sell more than 5.000.000 by march 2022.

Tbone5189 is going to be mad a me; when i start using his profile image 11 months from now.

mariodk18 · Apr 11, 2021

Chris1964 said:
Supply for Rise looks to have been normalised at its 3rd week, much sooner than 4 that happened at 5th. Drop at retail will give a good idea where it will end, if it follows previous games and is around 50% again it will say goodbye to 5m lifetime sales from now.

Is 4.5 m still likely?

Lelouch0612 · Apr 11, 2021

COMG! preorders chart, Week 14 2020:
Each point represents one preorder at this retailer. It is a relatively small retailer located in one region so be careful when you extrapolate, especially regarding Otaku games (overrepresented) and family games (underrepresented).

1. Nier Replicant sqrt(1.5) - 53 pts (+7 pts)
2. New Pokémon Snap - 35 pts (+1 pt)
3. Atelier Mysterious Trilogy DX (NSW) - 26 pts (+0 pt)
4. Resident Evil Village Z version (PS4) - 25 pts (+3 pt)
5. Rune Factory 5 - 21 pts (+1 pt)
6. Atelier Mysterious Trilogy DX (PS4) - 15 pts (+0 pt)
7. Rune Factory 5 Collector's Edition - 13 pts (+0 pt)
8. Resident Evil Village Z version (PS5) - 12 pts (+3 pts)
9. Famicom Tantei Club Collector's Edition - 9 pts (+0 pt)
10. Skyward Sword HD - 9 pts (+0 pt)
11. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS4) - 8 pts (+2 pts)
12. Samurai Warriors 5 (PS4) - 8 pts (+3 pts)
13. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS5) - 5 pts (NEW)
14. Miitopia - 5 pts (NEW)
15. Winning Post 9 (NSW) - 5 pts (+1 pt)
16. Winning Post 9 (NSW) - 5 pts (RE)
17. Furaiki 4 (NSW) - 5 pts (+0 pt)
18. Samurai Warriors 5 (NSW) - 4 pts (+0 pt)
19. R-TYPE Final 2 Limited Edition (PS4) - 4 pts (+0 pt)
20. Returnal - 4 pts (NEW)

Caiops · Apr 11, 2021

Nier finally getting some points

Lelouch0612 · Apr 11, 2021

Chris1964 said:
Supply for Rise looks to have been normalised at its 3rd week, much sooner than 4 that happened at 5th. Drop at retail will give a good idea where it will end, if it follows previous games and is around 50% again it will say goodbye to 5m lifetime sales from now.

32% drop on Comg. Hopefully the situation will be around the same nation wide.

Chris1964 · Apr 11, 2021

Winning Post is the next IP that was its audience moved to PlayStation consoles from the moment Sony entered the market that will cross lines with Switch. It's just unknown if it will happen from next entry or will need one more year. For Atelier everything shows the change of leading system will happen at next one.

Deleted member 63122 · Apr 11, 2021

Chris1964 said:
Winning Post is the next IP that was its audience moved to PlayStation consoles from the moment Sony entered the market that will cross lines with Switch. It's just unknown if it will happen from next entry or will need one more year. For Atelier everything shows the change of leading system will happen at next one.

Somebody should check on Oregano. Hope he's ok.

Oregano · Apr 11, 2021

storres said:
Somebody should check on Oregano. Hope he's ok.

Deleted member 63122 · Apr 11, 2021

Oregano said:

you will always have Media Create era's shoulders to cry on.

LostCauseUnite! · Apr 11, 2021

Oregano in ✨shambles✨

Tbone5189 · Apr 11, 2021

6mil dream is dead for Rise? Not on my account!!!!

give me multiple 150k-200k weeks MH plsssss 😆

Also evergreen legs for the whole year like 10k-20k weekly. Pokémon did it!!!

Caiops · Apr 11, 2021

For me it looks like there are new fans interested in getting the new Atelier Collection because they only played Ryza on Switch, not because Atelier fans on PlayStation dont want to play on PS4 anymore and are going to just buy games for the Switch or something like that

Comic Obsessed · Apr 11, 2021

Caiops said:
For me it looks like there are new fans interested in getting the new Atelier Collection because they only played Ryza on Switch

But they also released the Arland Trilogy, the Dusk Trilogy and Lulua on Switch.

Is more of a case that Gust and Koei Tecmo build-up the audience on the system.

Caiops · Apr 11, 2021

Comic Obsessed said:
But they also released the Arland Trilogy, the Dusk Trilogy and Lulua on Switch.

Did they?

So im wrong lol

PDApanda · Apr 11, 2021

I have to point out that，supply of Monster hunter Rise hard copy is still very tight in big department store like Bic Camera and Yodobashi in Tokyo this weekend.

However, when you are looking at smaller shops like Geo(ゲオ)，there are always physical version in stock.

Such things showed that the switch users and new players are more used to going to large shopping mall rather than dedicated gaming shops.

That is why conversion rates are higher for switch than ps4.
Even after launching week，the conversion rate is becoming higher and higher.
Because Comg！is a small gaming shop chain with only 5 stores located in Niigata Prefecture.

test_account · Apr 11, 2021

jman2050 said:
Falcom ditching PC right before the Steam-fueled PC gaming renaissance took off and then ditching handhelds right before the Switch completely took over Japan has not been a good look for them!

Fortunately for Kondo his buddies at NIS can clean up after his messes.

Just out of curiousity, hasnt Falcom been relatively consistent with their PC releases over the last 15 years or so? I know that some of the english localizations have been released quite a long time after the japanese release for sure, indeed, but hasnt some of their games in general been on Steam for a while now, while other and earlier releases were also released in Japan (not on Steam though)? Or did they stop/delay releasing PC games for a while?

Or do you mean that Falcom dropped PC as being the publisher themself? If so, i can see that :) I wonder why they dropped being the publisher themself. They did seem to be more active on self publishing on PC before if i'm not mistaken.

And yeah, i think its nice that they have started releasing more games on the Switch even if they arent the publishers, and NIS helped them there, indeed :)

EDIT: I fixed a typo.

MoonFrog · Apr 11, 2021

test_account said:
Just out of curiousity, hasnt Falcom been relatively consistent with their PC releases over the last 15 years or so? I know that some of the english localizations have been released quite time after the japanese release for sure, indeed, but hasnt some of their games in general been on Steam for a while now, while other and earlier releases were also released in Japan (not on Steam though)? Or did they stop releasing PC games for a while?

Or do you mean that Falcom dropped PC as being the publisher themself? If so, i can see that :) I wonder why they dropped being the publisher themself. They did seem to be more active on self publishing on PC before if i'm not mistaken.

And yeah, i think its nice that they have started releasing more games on the Switch even if they arent the publishers, and NIS helped them there, indeed :)

PC used to be their main platform. Then they switched to PSP lead.

test_account · Apr 11, 2021

MoonFrog said:
PC used to be their main platform. Then they switched to PSP lead.

Ah ok, i see. Thanks :) Does that mean that they basically replaced the PC releases with PSP games instead? Or did they still release some PC games as well, but less games than before? If so, i didnt think of that senario, my mistake, sorry :) I was reading it as that they ditched making PC games all together for a while, kinda like they did with handhelds (after they stopped releasing Vita games, it took a bit of time before they started releasing on the Switch instead, if i'm not mistaken), and i thought that they still released some PC games during the last 15 years or so, so i wanted to ask about it :)

EDIT: A late edit, but i just wanted to fix a typo :)

Oregano · Apr 11, 2021

Comic Obsessed said:
But they also released the Arland Trilogy, the Dusk Trilogy and Lulua on Switch.

Is more of a case that Gust and Koei Tecmo build-up the audience on the system.

They also released Lydie and Suelle on Switch, the last game in this(Mysterious) Trilogy. The port was pretty crap though, it looks like they basically redid it for this release.

Comic Obsessed · Apr 11, 2021

Oregano said:
They also released Lydie and Suelle on Switch, the last game in this(Mysterious) Trilogy. The port was pretty crap though, it looks like they basically redid it for this release.

Yeah, I actually bought that digitally haha.

It was clearly rushed on Switch with pretty poor framerate, resolution and assets, the only positive aspect is that at least it was better than the Vita version. I was pretty surprised at how much Gust improved their Switch work with Lulua a year after. Hopefully the Mysterious trilogy will also be more optimized.

P Diddy · Apr 11, 2021

What's the expectation for the drop for MHR for next thread's sales? I think 25%-30% is a good range.

schuelma · Apr 11, 2021

P Diddy said:
What's the expectation for the drop for MHR for next thread's sales? I think 25%-30% is a good range.

that would be an excellent hold

P Diddy · Apr 11, 2021

schuelma said:
that would be an excellent hold

It would be. I guess I used drop instead of hold, whoops.

jman2050 · Apr 11, 2021

test_account said:
Just out of curiousity, hasnt Falcom been relatively consistent with their PC releases over the last 15 years or so? I know that some of the english localizations have been released quite a long time after the japanese release for sure, indeed, but hasnt some of their games in general been on Steam for a while now, while other and earlier releases were also released in Japan (not on Steam though)? Or did they stop/delay releasing PC games for a while?

Or do you mean that Falcom dropped PC as being the publisher themself? If so, i can see that :) I wonder why they dropped being the publisher themself. They did seem to be more active on self publishing on PC before if i'm not mistaken.

And yeah, i think its nice that they have started releasing more games on the Switch even if they arent the publishers, and NIS helped them there, indeed :)

EDIT: I fixed a typo.

Falcom is one of the oldest and most storied Japanese CRPG developers in history. They were one of the pioneers of the genre and responsible for several beloved CRPGs in Japan in the years before the Famicom and other consoles started to take hold. Dragon Slayer more or less created the Action RPG as we know it, being a direct influence on The Legend of Zelda, among others, shortly thereafter.

While the RPG audience in Japan migrated to consoles over time, Falcom remained committed to PC as they were (and still are) an extremely small studio that's known for just kinda doing their own thing. Dragon Slayer, Xanadu, Ys, and The Legend of Heroes (and its spinoff Kiseki series) were all franchises that lived on PC primarily.

Then in 2007 the founder of Falcom retired and some dude named Toshihiro Kondo was promoted to take over the company. At the same time all of those PC franchises I mentioned suddenly became PSP franchises. Not that ports of their games (including to PSP) weren't happening already, but Ys Seven I'm pretty sure was the first of these games to lead on PSP, and that game never even got a PC release in Japan. Zero no Kiseki in 2010 was also PSP exclusive and only got a PC port in Japan years after the fact. And I don't necessarily think it was a bad decision, as Falcom never really got a foothold in the western market where the PC JRPG market literally didn't exist and the PSP in Japan was at escape velocity due to Monster Hunter. I believe Zero and Ao ended up being their most successful games at the time after all (correct me if I'm wrong).

Oh by the way, just in a totally unrelated aside that has nothing to do with this stuff whatsoever, also in 2010 there was this Japanese PC RPG made by a small indie studio no one had ever heard of, which received a localization by a company that had no published games and was literally two people, and was released in the west on Steam to a market that didn't actually exist. That game was Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale, and it went on to sell hundreds of thousands of copies, established that there was indeed a potential market for these types of games on Steam, and may well have kickstarted the PC JRPG renaissance that continues to this day. This has nothing to do with Falcom though so I'm not sure why I brought it up!

PachaelD · Apr 11, 2021

Chris1964 said:
Winning Post is the next IP that was its audience moved to PlayStation consoles from the moment Sony entered the market that will cross lines with Switch. It's just unknown if it will happen from next entry or will need one more year. For Atelier everything shows the change of leading system will happen at next one.

It's an iterative series which from WP9 in 2019 has been on PS4/Switch/PC with some changes year to year but yes I expect a crossover sooner or later especially since this year there's a demo on Switch - that said considering its iterativeness I feel that there isn't any real reason to switch platforms unless there's cross-save (they had it for my version of PS3/Vita, but not sure if they do it for PS4/Switch/PC). Either way it'd involve double dipping.

fiendcode · Apr 12, 2021

test_account said:
Ah ok, i see. Thanks :) Does that mean that they basically replaced the PC releases with PSP games instead? Or did they still release som PC games as well, but less games than before? If so, i didnt think of that senario, my mistake, sorry :) I was reading it as that they ditched making PC games all together for a while, kinda like they did with handhelds (after they stopped releasing Vita games, it took a bit of time before they started releasing on the Switch instead, if i'm not mistaken), and i thought that they still released some PC games during the last 15 years or so, so i wanted to ask about it :)

Falcom doesn't release anything on PC (or Switch) these days. Their last Windows PC release was Zwei II in 2008 and their last Nintendo release was Ys V Expert on SFC in 1996 (although Koei published it for them).

They license their games out but don't actually develop, produce or publish games themselves on anything but PS4 right now.

hiska-kun · Apr 12, 2021

Tsutaya Ranking: Week 14, 2021 (5 Apr - 11 Apr)

01./01. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise <ACT> (Capcom) {2021.03.26} (¥7.990)
02./02. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury <ACT> (Nintendo) {2021.02.12} (¥5.980)
03./03. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300)
04./05. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
05./08. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
06./06. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
07./07. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980)
08./09. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
09./14. [NSW] Bravely Default II <RPG> (Square Enix) {2021.02.26} (¥6.800)
10./10. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town <SLG> (Marvelous) {2021.02.25} (¥5.980)
11./11. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.11.22} (¥5.980)
12./15. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <TBL> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980)
13./04. [PS4] Outriders <ACT> (Square Enix) {2021.04.01} (¥7.980)
14./19. [NSW] Super Mario Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
15./17. [NSW] Pokemon Sword <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
16./12. [NSW] Little Nightmares II <ADV> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.02.10} (¥3.600)
17./18. [NSW] Human: Fall Flat <ADV> (Teyon Japan) {2020.06.25} (¥3.500)
18./26. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age - Definitive Edition [New Price Edition] <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥4.980)
19./21. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} (¥5.980)
20./20. [NSW] Apex Legends: Champion Edition <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2021.03.18} (¥3.909)

Top 20

NSW - 19
PS4 - 1

Nevermeltice · Apr 12, 2021

hiska-kun said:
Tsutaya Ranking: Week 14, 2021 (5 Apr - 11 Apr)

09./14. [NSW] Bravely Default II <RPG> (Square Enix) {2021.02.26} (¥6.800)

Talent winning!

mariodk18 · Apr 12, 2021

That seems like a decent hold for Outriders PS4 I think? And by extension we should assume the PS5 version won't be in the top 30 right?

Garlic · Apr 12, 2021

I like that Falcom has become so wedded to Playstation that people have just straight up forgot that for most of their history they were literally the most storied and acclaimed Japanese PC developer ever

MysticGon · Apr 12, 2021

PillFencer said:
OK so, I did the math and it didn't work out as I expected it to.

Media Create Sales:

Week 04, 2018 (Jan 22 - Jan 28) 01./00. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 1.245.169 / NEW <92,07%>
Week 05, 2018 (Jan 29 - Feb 04) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 346.187 / 1.591.356 (-72%)
Week 06, 2018 (Feb 05 - Feb 11) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 159.613 / 1.750.969 (-54%)
Week 07, 2018 (Feb 12 - Feb 18) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 85.322 / 1.836.291 (-47%)
Week 08, 2018 (Feb 19 - Feb 25) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 53.982 / 1.890.273 (-37%)
Week 09, 2018 (Feb 26 - Mar 04) 01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 38.617 / 1.928.890 (-28%)
Week 10, 2018 (Mar 05 - Mar 11) 02./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 25.382 / 1.954.272 (-34%)
Week 11, 2018 (Mar 12 - Mar 18) 06./02. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 16.614 / 1.970.886 (-35%)
Week 12, 2018 (Mar 19 - Mar 25) 08./06. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 13.329 / 1.984.215 (-20%)
Week 13, 2018 (Mar 26 - Apr 01) 10./08. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 10.011 / 1.994.226 (-25%)
Week 14, 2018 (Apr 02 - Apr 08) 11./10. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 5.189 / 1.999.415 (-48%)
Week 15, 2018 (Apr 09 - Apr 15) 16./11. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 3.640 / 2.003.054 (-30%)
Week 16, 2018 (Apr 16 - Apr 22) 18./16. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 3.103 / 2.006.158 (-15%)

Week 31, 2018 (Jul 30 - Aug 05) 19./00. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [1][Best Price] # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.08.02} (¥4.990) - 4.889 / NEW <15,70%>

Week 29, 2019 (Jul 15 - Jul 21) 00./00. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [2][Best Price] <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.07.18} (¥2.990) - 3.378 / NEW <30,20%>

Week 36, 2019 (Sep 02 - Sep 08) 01./00. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition <Monster Hunter: World \ Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne> # <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.09.06} (¥6.990) - 171.129 / NEW <54,26%>

Media Create Sales: CY 2019 (2018 Dec 31 - 2019 Dec 29)

014./000. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition <Monster Hunter: World \ Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne> # <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.09.06} (¥6.990) - 443.388 / NEW
100./170. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [1][Best Price] # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.08.02} (¥4.990) - 45.537 / 69.635 (+89%)
104./000. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [2][Best Price] <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.07.18} (¥2.990) - 42.362 / NEW
870./002. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 1.189 / 2.031.129 (-100%)

Shipments:

As of January 28, 2018:
around 2 million units on PS4 (5 million units worldwide, 60% of that outside Japan, source: Capcom, via Mochizuki)

As of August 20, 2018:
around 2.9 million units on PS4 and PC, including Best Price SKU (over 10 million units worldwide, 29% of that in Japan, source: Capcom, via Famitsu)

As of early October 2020:
3.184.000 on PS4 + 236.000 on PC, total 3.420.000 (source: Capcom data leaks)

Let's take "around 2 million units" as 2.000.000 and "around 2.9 million units" as 2.900.000 and see what happens.

First week physical shipments for World are estimated to be 1.245.169 / 0,9207 = 1.352.416 units.
If World shipped 2.000.000 units in 3 days, then digital sales were 2.000.000 - 1.352.416 = 647.584 units, a 34% digital share for sell-through.

Initial shipments for the first Best Price SKU are estimated to be 4.889 / 0,157 = 31.140 units.
Since Capcom launched this SKU, it's safe to assume that they didn't ship any additional copies of the base SKU afterwards, which means that its LTD physical sell-through as of December 29, 2019 was already shipped by August 20, 2018.
Thus total physical shipments as of August 20, 2018 are estimated to be 31.140 + 2.031.129 = 2.062.269 units.
If World shipped 2.900.000 units by that point, then digital sales on PS4 and PC were 2.900.000 - 2.062.269 = 837.731 units.
In this scenario, from January 28 to August 20, physical sales for World increased ~815k while digital increased ~190k, including the PC launch.

Seems possible so far. But here comes the problem: afterwards and as of December 2019, Capcom shipped at least 443.388 + (69.635 - 31.140) + 42.362 = 524.245 physical copies to retailers. Iceborne Master Edition continued selling in 2020 (74k according to Famitsu), so you would expect total shipments as of early October 2020 to be a decent amount over 2.900.000 + 524.245 = 3.424.245 units, but they're actually reported lower at 3.420.000 units. Does this confirm that Capcom does not include the Master Edition sales into World figures? If so, then World actually sold a lot on the PSN when its price dropped and its total including the Master Edition and PC version would be around 3,9 million units. Or maybe the leaks are incorrect, or I might have made a mistake while writing this, if so then please feel free to correct me lol.

Having a more than 33% attach rate must be a great feeling for the suits and developers.

Numbers like that makes that fat check that Sony is going to bring to Horii go down easier.

Zedark · Apr 12, 2021

At COMG, Rise orders are 185, down 88 from 273 (so -32%). This is only COMG, so not a good indicator for nationwide trends, but this would be a good scenario I think if it did translate to the situation nationwide.

Pooroomoo · Apr 12, 2021

Zedark said:
At COMG, Rise orders are 185, down 88 from 273 (so -32%). This is only COMG, so not a good indicator for nationwide trends, but this would be a good scenario I think if it did translate to the situation nationwide.

Interestingly, while the first week COMG vs actual sales proportions were not at all in line with the usual 1:1000 for Switch games, second week was (273 vs 277k). Here's hoping third week is indeed around 1:1000 as well.

brutaka3 · Apr 12, 2021

MysticGon said:
Numbers like that makes that fat check that Sony is going to bring to Horii go down easier.

That's not happening.

SinCityAssassin · Apr 12, 2021

MysticGon said:
Having a more than 33% attach rate must be a great feeling for the suits and developers.

Numbers like that makes that fat check that Sony is going to bring to Horii go down easier.

It's a good joke.

hiska-kun · Apr 12, 2021

(Taiwan)
Media Create Sales Week 13, 2021 (29 Mar - 4 Apr)

01./01. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom) {2021.03.26}
02./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
03./00. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
04./03. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}
05./05. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}

Top 5

NSW - 5

(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 13, 2021 (29 Mar - 4 Apr)

01./01. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom) {2021.03.26}
02./02. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
03./03. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
04./04. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}
05./05. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}

Top 5

NSW - 5

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Fularu · Apr 12, 2021

I like how they're the same with just a game switched around

Chris1964 · Apr 12, 2021

GEO stores: Week 14, 2021 (Apr 5 - Apr 11)

01./01. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise <ACT> (Capcom) {2021.03.26} (¥7.990)
02./02. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury <ACT> (Nintendo) {2021.02.12} (¥5.980)
03./03. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300)
04./04. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
05./07. [NSW Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
06./06. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
07./08. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980)
08./09. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
09./14. [NSW] Little Nightmares II <ADV> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.02.10} (¥3.600)
10./15. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <TBL> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980)

Top 10

NSW - 10

"Monster Hunter Rise has won 1st place for three consecutive weeks. Since it is possible to play with up to 4 people online I hope that this will expand as communication tool like past Monster Hunter titles.
In addition, all titles ranked in top 10 such as Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury at 2nd place and Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! at 3rd place are standard Switch software and maintain strong sales."

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