In japan?I dont see any bigger than toys to life concept before though. And retailers stock those in droves before.
In japan?I dont see any bigger than toys to life concept before though. And retailers stock those in droves before.
How about The Last of Us that did 250k? Thats only 3 games?
How about Call of Duty that consistently did 100k+? Thats only 4 games?
How about Donkey Kong TF that even in Wii U? Thats Nintendo game so it does not count?
How about Mario and Rabbids which is going to sell 300k in the future? Have Mario so it does not count?
If you are going to put so many stupid rules, i would said it is not wonder u come to that stupid conclusion.
Labo is not pure software though. Also, even if the percentage is lower, 10% of 300 dollar is still more money than 30% of 60 dollars.The percentage for hardware is less that the percentage for software. Local stores only sell consoles for a reason, to try to sell the much more profitable games.
I think you mean less than 200k for The Last of Us. And that's supposed to be a lot for what a lot consider to be the best PS3 game?
CoD sells well over 10 million in the west and 100k in Japan is impressive?
And yes, Mario and Rabbid has Mario in it.
What's your point? DQ sold gangbuster in Japan and twelve copies in the west. People in the west are also biased am I right? Also, how does TLoU getting good review in the west has anything to do with Japanese sales? If I tell you some niche VN is highly regarded in Japan, are you going to play it? This degree of western-centric view is offensive. They have their own metric of what is a good game and they don't give a fuck about what IGN or Gamespot has to say, just deal with it. People can have different taste, nothing to do with bais.I think you mean less than 200k for The Last of Us. And that's supposed to be a lot for what a lot consider to be the best PS3 game?
CoD sells well over 10 million in the west and 100k in Japan is impressive?
And yes, Mario and Rabbid has Mario in it.
Updates of JP numbers:
Switch:
Super Mario Odyssey - 1.910.000
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 1.68
Splatoon 2 - 2.61
The Legend of Zelda: breath of the Wild - 700.000
ARMS - 470.000
1-2 Switch - 320.000
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 310.000
Kirby Star Allies - 500.000
Pokken Tournament DX - No JP numbers, but did 1.16m overseas
Doubt the game will sell less than 15m lifetime. Its been only out a year and the Switch installed base isnt anywhere close to being at its max - the game stay the title to pick up once you get a Switch for a longass time.Zelda Switch + Wii U > 10m
The game is gonna sell 12-13m minimum LTD.
Labo is not pure software though. Also, even if the percentage is lower, 10% of 300 dollar is still more money than 30% of 60 dollars.
How many title sold more than 100k in Japan? Why are u using the west as metric for japan there?
Selling 100k for a game that does not have japanese aesthetic means that japanese gamer dont have huge bias toward west games there. Simple as that.
TLOU sold 250k with PS4 rerelease.
Do u said that West is anti Japan when DQ flopped on west? No. U just said that the taste does not suit each other so it flopped. Not suddenly go reaching on stupid reason.
What's your point? DQ sold gangbuster in Japan and twelve copies in the west. People in the west are also biased am I right? Also, how does TLoU getting good review in the west has anything to do with Japanese sales? If I tell you some niche VN is highly regarded in Japan, are you going to play it? This degree of western-centric view is offensive. They have their own metric of what is a good game and they don't give a fuck about what IGN or Gamespot has to say, just deal with it. People can have different taste, nothing to do with bais.
Doubt the game will sell less than 15m lifetime. Its been only out a year and the Switch installed base isnt anywhere close to being at its max - the game stay the title to pick up once you get a Switch for a longass time.
Hell thats not even considering bundles we might get this year or potential price drops later this gen. Still lot of sales to be had with this one.
Many titles sell over 100k in the west.
I'm using western sales as a metric because that's what started this conversation.
Ah, so you're combining the PS3 sales and the PS4 remaster's sales to get to 250k? 250k vs over 10M in the west. Great sales...
When did DQ flop in the west?
No, they don't have their own metric of what a good game is. Unless that metric is being Japanese.
Just saying that i think the minimum threshold is alot higher that 12/13m. Yeah Nintendo might introduce Smasj, Pokemon, AC and co. later on but they arent Zelda...they arent BotW and even if it gets a sequel - lets say 2019/20 i dont think it will have big impact of BotW.That's why I said it was a minimum threshold.
As more and more software come out, sales potential decreases. Also, it must be seen whether Nintendo will release a direct sequel, for example. But those sales are wonderful regardless.
Just saying that i think the minimum threshold is alot higher that 12/13m. Yeah Nintendo might introduce Smasj, Pokemon, AC and co. later on but they arent Zelda...they arent BotW and even if it gets a sequel - lets say 2019/20 i dont think it will have big impact of BotW.
BotW is a classic at this point - people who get a Switch will wanna check this out. Which is the reason its charting a year after its release even in Japan.
Well either way...great result - lets see where it ends up when its all said and done.
A gross generalization of an entire nation. I'd consider this a bannable offense.
Yeah thats the crazy part - TP was quite the success but BotW is way bigger. On one hand its one of the best open world experiences on the other hand it benefits from the Switch being a more traditional gamer oriented system.This is true. We should check how much Twilight Princess sold on Wii after the first year. That game also became really successful (the first or second best-selling Zelda game at that time, IIRC)
Net Sales: (FYTD)
¥1,055,682 million,
115.8% increase YoY
Operating Income: (FYTD)
¥177,557 million ,
504.7% increase YoY
Profit: (FYTD)
¥139,590 million ,
36.1% increase YoY
Nintendo Switch
Hardware:
2.92 million for the quarter/
15.05 million FYTD /
17.79 million LTD
Software:
16.41 million for the quarter/
63.51 million FYTD/
68.97 million LTD
(Only counts Digital software that has a retail version)
3DS
Hardware:
0.54 million for the quarter/
6.4 million FYTD/
72.53 million LTD
Software:
4.39 million for the quarter/
35.64 million FYTD/
364.89 million LTD
Smart Device, IP related income:
¥10,219 million for the quarter/
¥39,320 million FYTD
Nintendo's earnings share from Pokémon Go:
(Share of profit of entities accounted for using equity method:)
¥1,672 million for the quarter/
¥10,318 million FYTD
(For comparison, Smart Device, IP related income for all of FY3/2017 was: ¥24,250 million
Income from Pokémon Go for all of FY3/2017 was: ¥20,271 million)
Switch Hardware shipments WW LTD:
Japan – 4.38 million
The Americas – 7.14 million
Other – 6.27 million
– Switch hardware forecast for next fiscal year: 20 million units
– 3DS hardware forecast for next fiscal year: 76.53 million
https://nintendoeverything.com/nint...ults-switch-sales-at-17-79-million-worldwide/
not to beat the "mario rpgs wasting their potential" horse, but in a world where Xeno2 is pulling that, Octo will do better, and M+R...
....yeah nothing else to say.
730k, we actually have numbers since this morning but I thought people posted them already.
You're moving the goalpost, your original complaint with shortages was never to do with Switch LTD sales falling behind 3DS, it was to do with third party support:
Also, your nonsense was to do with your claims of third party support greenlighting games for Switch being affected due to the shortages, not that Switch would be behind 3DS LTD.
Of course you can't prove that as you said, it's fucking nonsense. You think that a console being sold out weekly with lotteries being used means that developers have to delay or cancel projects because Nintendo isn't stocking enough consoles? Bullshit.
PS2 and DS are examples of successful systems that had huge shortages due to their popularity and their third party support wasn't affected because they couldn't stock enough consoles.
Not in Japan : right now it's still way under Wii and DS and it's doubtful that it will continue to follow the 3DS trend. Could have probably been different but it's not.
I mean dude we've argued with you for months now and your posts are available for all to see. You can't act as if what he stated wasn't your original argument here.https://www.resetera.com/posts/2296848/
And don't worry : the fact that you don't even get that installed base = market and how big it is will have a direct impact on how that market will be profitable for third parties appears not only as nonsensical to me as my comments seems to look to you but I would even say utterly laughable and ridiculous in fact. But what should I expect from someone who has so little to say to defend his point of view than a totally trollish answer like "Nonsense" ? You can continue to try to dissect awkwardly my posts if you find so much fun doing that but I certainly won't lose my time replying to you anymore.
Have you even read the quote I posted ? But eh I don't even care about being right, this should be about discussing arguments but when you have some people who obviously don't want to discuss some topics with arguments it's always good to see them being proven damn wrong.I mean dude we've argued with you for months now and your posts are available for all to see. You can't act as if what he stated wasn't your original argument here.
I read it and you moved goal posts while being unable to concede that you are.
Pretty sure that's not what he's saying.the fact that you don't even get that installed base = market and how big it is will have a direct impact on how that market will be profitable for third parties appears not only as nonsensical to me as my comments seems to look to you but I would even say utterly ridiculous in fact.
Ill await to see his direction with baited breathBye Kimishima :( , hello Shuntaro Furukawa :)
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180426_5e.pdf
Nintendo has announced in its end of fiscal year report that current president of Nintendo, Tatsumi Kimishima is stepping down from the interim role.
He will be replaced with Shuntaro Furukawa who is currently serving on the board of both Nintendo and The Pokémon Company.
Tatsumi Kimishima who has been sitting in the seat for the past 30 months was always only ever temporary until Nintendo found a new president after the passing of Satoru Iwata. Kimishima is remaining at the company as an Executive Advisor.
https://www.vooks.net/nintendo-pres...wm-shuntaro-furukawa-appointed-new-president/
I ain't taking this going down.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/7214014/
SUPER MARIO 3D LAND (11.96M) is the second best selling Mario 3D game ever.
It beat Super Mario 64 (11.91M) for N64 which was the previous second best selling Mario 3D game.
Super Mario Galaxy (12.76M) is still the best selling Mario 3D game.12.76M
https://www.resetera.com/posts/7214331/
Thx Celine :)
He had something to say actually?
I always believedJudging by FEW sales I imagine KT software was far more successful on the Switch than we initially thought. No wonder they always expressed how happy they were with their software sales.
I mean even if I told you plainly, you wouldn't try to believe it, judging from how long this discussion has been going on.
You have to take digital into account, I have it digitally and it was pushed as pre-order situation where you can get it earlyFEW beating DW9 shows how much Koei F up DW9 there.
They better quickly try to solve those problem asap there.
I am also interested with that. I do feel PS4 will take the cake there as even in JP, switch version is doing not as good as the early momentum is cut by shortages.
That shows why Nintendo wont kill 3ds at all lol.
People are buying 3ds not for new game. But for older evergreen title there. If 3ds is still alive for 2 years, i can see 3d land coming really close to galaxy there.
Odyssey is going to kick both arse so hard though.