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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2018 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

Jim_Cacher

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Wow, the Switch is cheap. BTW, used products in Japanese stores are as good as new products. Both my PS2 and PS3 were bought from used items stores in Japan, and they are still running without any problems.
Splatoon,botw,mk8d and Odyssey are the four horsemens,everyone dropped except them
Darksiders -Nintendo Edition-
 
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Chris1964

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I remember a few people saying Kirby could do 1m, but the general consensus was higher than 600-700k. No one really argued that.
General consensus for Kirby, from anecdotal to many predictions, was that it will reach million seller status again and it will be confirmed. The game shipped 500k in 2 weeks with zero holidays. The only question is if there is a possibility to happen this year.
 

ShinobiBk

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From seeing Labo sales and impressions, I feel like we're going to get future sets more in the vein of the variety kit, where you make several different gadgets instead of something like the robot kit, where you make one big project. I think people just see more value in buying something that comes with more projects than just one, especially cause it's cheaper. I think they priced the robot one too high
 

KillerMan91

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I wrote something about that a few months ago in some thread (data came from different sources, and it took a lot of time to find them). Basically, if you looked at DS and Wii totals versus other platforms you could see that, in relative terms, in UK Nintendo platforms were a bit weaker with respect to other countries, namely France and Spain (I don't remember about Germany, though). I mean, this makes sense: not every country is the same and consumers' preferences vary across territories and also within territories; we are used to consider PAL countries one and all but they are very different from each other. We know, for example, that Nintendo is especially weak in Scandinavia while it is pretty strong in France. DS and Wii were really successful in UK but, in relative terms, they were still less successful (versus competitors) with respect to some other countries. Everything is, again, in relative terms.
DS is all time best selling system in UK and sold more there than in any other European market. Wii also had its best sales in Europe in UK. Wii and DS were not relatively weak in UK by any means. UK just bough other consoles in addition more than other European markets. Especially with X360. People forget but at the peak of last gen UK was bigger market than Japan for a while for deticated gaming. The boom was huge.
 

Zedark

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The grey Switch is having a GW promotion (I guess it's for GW specifically?), 3,300 Yen off (price is now 29k Yen). It's jumped up in a couple of hours to the 14th place (as of writing) whereas before it hung around between the 35th and 50th place. We might see a big differential between MC and Famitsu for this week (bigger than usual, even) due to this.
 

Spiegel

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Oct 26, 2017
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I appreciate silpheed-mcd posting images but sometimes it would help putting one or two lines explaining what the images are showing to avoid confusion.

re: used games/systems vs new and similar pictures
 

fiendcode

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Oct 26, 2017
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DS is all time best selling system in UK and sold more there than in any other European market. Wii also had its best sales in Europe in UK. Wii and DS were not relatively weak in UK by any means. UK just bough other consoles in addition more than other European markets. Especially with X360. People forget but at the peak of last gen UK was bigger market than Japan for a while for deticated gaming. The boom was huge.
By what metric was the UK ever bigger than Japan for dedicated gaming and when? Japan sold almost 80m hardware units in Gen 7?
 

KillerMan91

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Chris1964

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Golden Week made Donkey Kong escape from another Nintendo Friday release. If the blog gives first day sell-through it will finally include a first party title for Switch.
 

Lite_Agent

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Somewhere. I think.
Golden Week made Donkey Kong escape from another Nintendo Friday release. If the blog gives first day sell-through it will finally include a first party title for Switch.
Unfortunately, with both May 3rd and May 4th being public holidays, not sure Media Create will share Day-1 sell-through. Maybe hiska-kun remembers what happened in previous years, though generally, GW games come out BEFORE GW, not during it, so this may be a rare case without (recent) precedent.
 

fiendcode

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Boiled Goose

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You could at least aknowledge that I answered your question and that you didn't make that much effort to understand my point before jumping to your gun in the first place ? I don't know, I did put some effort to explain my point to you, didn't I ?

I understand why people are being optimistic about Switch software, like I said, I won't blame them, but let's not pretend it's not the case each time a Switch game sales results are "disappointing".



Of course, but it isn't a pattern of mine, it was just about Labo, not almost every Switch software titles released and I won't try hard to deny it like it's sometime the case here.
If you're criticizing predictions, please make your own predictions. If you don't, you're just Monday morning quarterbacking or a constant goal post moving machine .

Establishing a record of success or failure in predictions allows you to establish credibility in your understanding of the market. If you never make predictions, we're just flailing in the wind.
 
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KillerMan91

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Coincident with the booming of mobile game. Makes sense.
Yeah. By 2011 you had 3DS selling really well in Japan and huge growth of mobile gaming (in Europe mobile gaming has had far smaller growth rate across the years than in US and especially Japan) so it makes sense that Japan again passed UK.
 

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2014 Jan* {2014.01.06 - 2014.02.02} [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.571) - 9.487 / 9.487 <2,22%>
2014 Feb* {2014.02.03 - 2014.03.02} [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.571) - 4.450 / 13.937 <4,92%>
2014 Mar* {2014.03.03 - 2014.03.30} [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.571) - 2.738 / 16.675 <5,05%>
2014 Apr* {2014.03.31 - 2014.05.04} [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.571) - 1.915 / 18.590 <4,07%>
2014 May* {2014.05.05 - 2014.06.01} [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.571) - 1.619 / 20.209 <6,87%>

2016 May {2016.04.25 - 2016.05.29} [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 11.297 / 11.297 <3,69%>
2016 Jun {2016.05.30 - 2016.06.26} [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 2.110 / 13.407 <5,58%>
2016 Jul {2016.06.27 - 2016.07.31} [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 1.347 / 14.754 <5,02%>
2016 Aug {2016.08.01 - 2016.08.28} [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 2.601 / 17.355 <6,16%>
2016 Sep {2016.08.29 - 2016.09.25} [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 1.404 / 18.759 <6,33%>
2016 Oct {2016.09.26 - 2016.10.30} [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 1.699 / 20.458 <8,45%>
2016 Nov {2016.10.31 - 2016.11.27}
2016 Dec {2016.11.28 - 2016.12.25} [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 667 <1,92%>
2017 Jan {2016.12.26 - 2017.01.29} [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 517 <2,06%>

2018 Mar {2018.02.26 - 2018.03.25} [NSW] Kirby Star Allies (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} (¥5.980) - 31.543 / 31.543 <9,03%>

Pokemon should be the next important game with a big increase at digital.
 
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Lelouch0612

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When or where do we know if Mario and Rabbids is a million seller? Same for Fifa 2018 Switch edition.
Mario + Rabbids was close to 2m units sold a while ago. So between 2m-2.5m is my guess.

Fifa is rumoured to be one of the 4 3rd-party million-sellers of the last fiscal year (M+R, Skyrim?, FIFA?, Rocket League ?)
 

Mory Dunz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Mario + Rabbids was close to 2m units sold a while ago. So between 2m-2.5m is my guess.

Fifa is rumoured to be one of the 4 3rd-party million-sellers of the last fiscal year (M+R, Skyrim?, FIFA?, Rocket League ?)
How long ago was it close to 2m? was there a PR?

I doubt M+R is above 1-2 personally yet due to 5 extra months and 1-2 has around 200k extra in Japan.
I'd give it 2m-2.2m
 

Lelouch0612

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How long ago was it close to 2m? was there a PR?

I doubt M+R is above 1-2 personally yet due to 5 extra months and 1-2 has around 200k extra in Japan.
I'd give it 2m-2.2m
Internal PR :p

https://www.resetera.com/posts/3699259/

You are right but it has way better legs in the US than 1-2 Switch.

In France it sold 150k and 1-2 Switch 200k (retail).

In Spain, M+R was at 65k units sold and 1-2 Switch 39k (retail).

They should be in the same range imo.
 

JJConrad

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Nov 3, 2017
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When or where do we know if Mario and Rabbids is a million seller? Same for Fifa 2018 Switch edition.
I don't there's a direct source for either of those.

For Mario and Rabbids.... We do have Ubisoft claiming that M+R was the top selling 3rd party game for Switch, last November. We also have Nintendo claiming in their fiscal report that there were 12 million seller last fiscal year, with 9 of them being 1st party. It's not unreasonable to deduce that it sold a million based on that.

For Fifa... Its more speculation than reasoning. There are 2 more unknown 3rd party million sellers and list of candidates is relatively small.
 

Mory Dunz

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I don't there's a direct source for either of those.

For Mario and Rabbids.... We do have Ubisoft claiming that M+R was the top selling 3rd party game for Switch, last November. We also have Nintendo claiming in their fiscal report that there were 12 million seller last fiscal year, with 9 of them being 1st party. It's not unreasonable to deduce that it sold a million based on that.

For Fifa... Its more speculation than reasoning. There are 2 more unknown 3rd party million sellers and list of candidates is relatively small.
lol read the post above yours
 

hiska-kun

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Oct 26, 2017
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Golden Week made Donkey Kong escape from another Nintendo Friday release. If the blog gives first day sell-through it will finally include a first party title for Switch.
I don’t think we will get first day sell-through with Thursday and Friday being holidays.

Weekly numbers tomorrow shouldn’t be a problem because Wednesday isn’t a holiday.
 

jnWake

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Oct 25, 2017
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Regarding Wii U ports to Switch, so far the succesful ones (as in, not just subtly outselling the original) have had multiplayer as its selling point, which obviously gels well with the concept of the console. MK8DX was heavily pushed alongside the joycon multiplayer. Pokken DX is also a multiplayer title.

If you notice, they try to push the co-op aspect of DKCTF in some of the marketing, but it's obviously not the game's selling point which is why predictions put it at barely above the original for release. I'd also say that DKCTF's visuals aren't also eye-catching enough for people that didn't know about the game before.
 

skullwaker

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Regarding Wii U ports to Switch, so far the succesful ones (as in, not just subtly outselling the original) have had multiplayer as its selling point, which obviously gels well with the concept of the console. MK8DX was heavily pushed alongside the joycon multiplayer. Pokken DX is also a multiplayer title.

If you notice, they try to push the co-op aspect of DKCTF in some of the marketing, but it's obviously not the game's selling point which is why predictions put it at barely above the original for release. I'd also say that DKCTF's visuals aren't also eye-catching enough for people that didn't know about the game before.
To be fair, both Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Pokken DX opened lower than their Wii U counterparts. Their legs have been exceptional though. Time will tell if the same rings true for DK (I personally think it will have good legs and outsell the original by a good margin).
 

MoonFrog

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Yeah other than the 97 MC fan-dream Zelda, Mario 1-2 punch, the quick build-up of a diverse multiplayer suite is the most important thing Nintendo managed to achieve wrt software last year.

Spearheaded by Splatoon, it is probably more important than the Zelda, Mario thing in Japan at least.
 

jnWake

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To be fair, both Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Pokken DX opened lower than their Wii U counterparts. Their legs have been exceptional though. Time will tell if the same rings true for DK (I personally think it will have good legs and outsell the original by a good margin).
Well MK8DX was released shorty after launch so lower openings were expected I guess.

Time will tell indeed but I feel the narrative of Wii U hampering DKCTF's sales that much is unfounded. Both before and after DKCTF we had games selling much better than it, so I wouldn't expect it to suddenly explode. It's a terrific game (one of my favorites), but challenging platformer for $60 isn't the easiest sell in the world right now, especially with the Switch eShop having some very high quality challenging platformers for a much lower price.

EDIT: I feel it's also important to note that DKCTF (and Bayonetta 2 before) did nothing to cater to the double dipping crowd which will naturally limit sales. I loved DKCTF but I have no intention of buying it again (for more than the first time...) just to play as Funky Kong. Bayo2 was even worse about this as it added absolutely nothing.
 

Aters

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DK will easily outsell the WIIU version, but I don't think it will do a huge number by itself. I don't think it will have very good legs. I just don't see it being a very appealing game to the mass audience.