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Umibozu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Surprisingly high opening for labo: variety kit.
Low openings for God of war, labo: robot kit and metal max.
Bigger drop for snack world than I expected, think it still can eventually make it to 100K.

Switch slightly declined while ps4 slightly rose.
 

casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
5,044
3DS is still popular among young people and still going strong worldwide (according to Nintendo themselves). Labo was clearly designed to attract younger audience on Switch.

It's not needed in Japan since 3DS is already going downhill, but since I suspected Labo to be the most popular in Japan compared to other countries, it might not sound good for worldwide sales and Nintendo attempt to sweep the rug under the 3DS feet. Just quick thought and feeling from me though, it's hard to really gauge worldwide interest for Labo, it's not your typical video-game, but I feel like if it didn't move mountain in Japan, it won't do it worldwide either.

Why does Nintendo want to kill 3DS when it is probably going to ship respectable amount again this quarter? 3DS is simply legacy system now. It is going to sell based on its gigantic library of title and its low entry point. Labo is just one of the title that tried to expand the demographic of Switch even if it failed, it does not mean totally disaster as price point for me is the biggest barrier for Switch right now.

but the first batch was 70-80% sell through,so I think it's the second batch of the game was overshipped

nope

Still, i can't see the rest of that shipment sold lol. Bomba bin is what i predict going to happen to the rest of those copies.
 

skullwaker

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Oct 25, 2017
2,267
Labo did basically exactly as YSO predicted (~120k FW). That's a good debut for it, I think. Especially for the Variety Kit. We'll be able to see in the coming weeks if they'll have legs with Golden Week and such. Expected there to be some boost in Switch hardware, but maybe that will build over time.

God of War seemed to do well too. Pretty similarly to GOW3, and I think they'll end up in the same ballpark LTD. And if the 50k number for Metal Max is indeed shipped, the game is in trouble lol.
 

Echizen

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Oct 27, 2017
597
3DS is still popular among young people and still going strong worldwide (according to Nintendo themselves). Labo was clearly designed to attract younger audience on Switch.

It's not needed in Japan since 3DS is already going downhill, but since I suspected Labo to be the most popular in Japan compared to other countries, it might not sound good for worldwide sales and Nintendo attempt to sweep the rug under the 3DS feet. Just quick thought and feeling from me though, it's hard to really gauge worldwide interest for Labo, it's not your typical video-game, but I feel like if it didn't move mountain in Japan, it won't do it worldwide either.

Nintendo announced half a dozen 3DS games already this year. That's not something you do for a platform that you're actively trying to push out.
 

ACL

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Nov 18, 2017
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Metal Max Xeno demonstrating the brilliance in PS4/PSV releases, instead of just one you can overship two versions.

Switch selling well but with no hardware bump. Nintendo released decent perfoming games this year, but only Kirby can be considered big so far, with Labo potentially becoming another long term seller.

PS4s headstart in the year on year comparisons continues to shrink.
 

KillerMan91

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Oct 25, 2017
4,354
Not necessarily. There was a pro GoW bundle last week

Forgot that. I wonder how well stocked it was (going by Amazon it seems also crazy expensive). Nevertheless I still have very hard time to see Slim doing under 5k completely based on demand. Lets assume there hadn't been GOW bundle and use same percentage decrease to pro from last week as Slim had and total sales for PS4 this week would had been barely over 5k (Slim 4480, Pro 700). I just really don't see how it would suddenly collapse to those numbers just based on demand.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, Japan has something against western games.
Western games have been grown a lot this gen in Japan. It's just that Japanese have a different gaming preference overall (it's in the same way that Western gamers don't take to Japanese RPGs as much as Japanese gamers do). Nothing to do with having a thing against them I think: they just aren't as connected to them.

They just don't seem to like God of War specifically: Uncharted does much better than God of War, for example.
 

V0ltg

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, Japan has something against western games.

Instead of yapping nonsense, maybe you should come in terms with the fact that GoW simply flopped?
Japan has nothing against western games, there are several ones that do fantastic. Even just focusing on Sony products, games like Horizon Zero Dawn and Uncharted 4 did way better. GoW doesn't seem to suit their tastes, simple as that.
 

everyer

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Oct 29, 2017
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The reason is: it's level Z in Japan, you have to be over age 18 to buy this game and the shop can't put it in the main position.

In fact it's the best selling in the series' history in Japan.

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And that's why Resident Evil 7 do change some gameplay to fit D level...

And why LABO sold well in the shop: No doubt it can't sell well with sush marketing.
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Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
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Somewhere. I think.
Oct 27, 2017
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Good debut for Labo, although I expected some kind of positive impact on hardware sellings. Probably a good idea releasing it out of season, it will need to build quite some WOM to make a truly huge impact on holidays.

I don't get why Nintendo would want to sweep the rug under 3DS. I bet they are getting insane profit on each 3DS sold, and with almost no investment. Some day it will stop selling, like every other console but Nintendo will not speed that up. Specially before dropping Switch price to (at least) 200$.
 

RPG_Fanatic

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Oct 25, 2017
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Media-create results:

01./00. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 01: Variety Kit <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} (¥6.980) - 90.410 / NEW
03./00. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 02: Robot Kit <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} (¥7.980) - 28.629 / NEW


CONGRATULATIONS vala!

vala:
VK: 92.311 - RK: 33.699

Curses, I knew I was being a bit too optimistic with my guess.

I am really curious to see what the legs of Labo will be along with how long Nintendo waits to announce new kits.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Those are really not good Switch sales this week.

Labo was the only software that could have caused a bump until Mario Tennis.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just to put the idea of long term selling products on the map, here's a couple of examples of long term sellers that appeal to a different audience than the typical gamer:

NDS Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! 44.166 / 3.847.136 Nintendo 19/05/2005
NDS Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! 416.124 / 5.082.322 Nintendo 29/12/2005
WII Wii Sports 176.880 / 3.724.565 Nintendo 02/12/2006
WII Wii Sports Resort 353.827 / 3.165.464 Nintendo 25/06/2009
WII Wii Fit 254.009 / 3.561.787 Nintendo 01/12/2007
WII Wii Fit Plus 318.755 / 2.417.762 Nintendo 01/10/2009
NDS Nintendogs: Labrador / Dachshund / Chihuahua & Friends 135.674 / 2.080.644 Nintendo 21/04/2005
WII Wii Play 171.888 / 2.804.201 Nintendo 02/12/2006
WII Wii Party 223.595 / 2.389.549 Nintendo 08/07/2010
WIU Wii Party U 79.715 / 831.292 Nintendo 31/10/2013

This pattern probably also explains why 1-2-Switch is also at 5x its launch number and is still going at a steady 2k a week (which it has been doing since before the second half of last year). Well, that and the salt produced by triggered hardcore gamers.
 
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Adder

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Oct 28, 2017
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Surprisingly low Switch sales. This is starting to get ridiculous at this point. Labo clearly flop fortunately. It did way below expectations. Hopefully Nintendo will abandon it and start focusing on core gamers 100%. They should have had Fire Emblem instead of Labo, Switch would have done better in general.

Even more ridiculous is GoW: ps4 owners in Japan are not buying their largest exclusive. Crazy.
 

Mpl90

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Oct 25, 2017
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Road to the Golden Week (April 29th - May 5th/6th)

Since it happened to be posted at the end of last page, here's a much smaller version, which compares 2012 with 2018, since 2012's day distribution is identical to this year, which means the hardware trends should be very similar

2012

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Bigger events per week

Media Create Sales: Week 12, 2012 (Mar 19 - Mar 25)

Cobalt Blue color for 3DS

[3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800) - 132.526 / NEW
[PSP] Black Panther 2: Yakuza Ashura Chapter <ADV> (Sega) {2012.03.22} (¥6.279) - 104.937 / NEW
[PS3] Devil May Cry HD Collection <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.03.22} (¥4.990) - 43.791 / NEW
[PS3] Ninja Gaiden 3 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.03.22} (¥8.190)  - 29.797 / NEW

Media Create Sales: Week 13, 2012 (Mar 26 - Apr 01)

KH3D Bundle for 3DS

[3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090) - 213.579 / NEW
[PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥7.980) - 90.433 / NEW
[PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥5.980) - 60.141 / NEW
[PSV] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥6.980) - 17.264 / NEW

Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2012 (Apr 02 - Apr 08)

[PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330) - 265.439 / NEW

Media Create Sales: Week 15, 2012 (Apr 09 - Apr 15)

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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2012 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

Fire Emblem Awakening bundle for 3DS

[3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800) - 242.600 / NEW
[3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090) - 19.554 / NEW

Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 23 - Apr 29)

[PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.04.26} (¥6.990) - 252.525 / NEW
[360] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.04.26} (¥6.990) - 16.285 / NEW
[WII] Mario Party 9 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.04.26} (¥5.800) - 152.883 / NEW
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge: Ushinawareta Hoshi e Sasagu Uta # <ETC> (Gust) {2012.04.26} (¥5.040) - 33.324 / NEW
[PSP] Conception: Please Give Birth to My Child! <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2012.04.26} (¥6.279) - 29.846 / NEW

Media Create Sales: Week 18, 2012 (Apr 30 - May 06)

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Media Create Sales: Week 19, 2012 (May 07 - May 13)

[PS3] Starhawk <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.05.10} (¥5.980) - 12.873 / NEW

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|System |   Week 12  |   Week 13  |   Week 14  |   Week 15  |   Week 16  |   Week 17  |   Week 18  |   Week 19  |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|  3DS  |     94.011 |    121.921 |     72.115 |     63.796 |     84.760 |     74.282 |     91.868 |     46.425 |
|  PS3  |     25.750 |     23.771 |     19.370 |     17.765 |     16.390 |     21.114 |     23.478 |     12.996 |
|  PSV  |     10.302 |     12.105 |      8.931 |      8.250 |      8.206 |     12.299 |     10.583 |      6.340 |
|  PSP  |     19.875 |     18.356 |     14.804 |     13.166 |     11.779 |     22.457 |     20.033 |     12.247 |
|  WII  |      9.270 |      9.292 |      7.099 |      6.837 |      7.025 |      9.200 |     15.789 |      6.073 |
|  360  |      1.084 |      1.317 |      3.764 |      1.373 |      1.282 |      1.327 |      1.420 |      1.023 |
|  NDS  |      1.836 |      1.712 |      1.536 |      1.433 |      1.276 |      1.612 |      1.911 |      1.206 |
|  PS2  |      1.333 |      1.374 |      1.355 |      1.212 |      1.172 |      1.395 |      1.611 |      1.212 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+

2018

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Media Create Sales: Week 12, 2018 (Mar 19 - Mar 25)

[PS4] Valkyria Chronicles 4 # <SLG> (Sega) {2018.03.21} (¥7.990) - 62.921 / NEW
[PS4] Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom # <RPG> (Level 5) {2018.03.23} (¥8.000) - 56.014 / NEW
[3DS] Detective Pikachu <ADV> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.03.23} (¥4.980) - 42.013 / NEW
[NSW] Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.22} (¥6.800) - 24.908 / NEW
[NSW] PriPara All Idol Perfect Stage! <ACT> (Takara Tomy) {2018.03.22} (¥5.980) - 12.426 / NEW

Media Create Sales: Week 13, 2018 (Mar 26 - Apr 01)

[PS4] Super Robot Wars X # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.03.29} (¥8.600) - 89.259 / NEW
[PSV] Super Robot Wars X # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.03.29} (¥7.600) - 54.042 / NEW
[PS4] Far Cry 5 <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2018.03.29} (¥8.400) - 75.474 / NEW
[PS4] Shining Resonance Refrain # <RPG> (Sega) {2018.03.29} (¥5.990) - 23.054 / NEW


Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2018 (Apr 02 - Apr 08)

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Media Create Sales: Week 15, 2018 (Apr 09 - Apr 15)

[NSW] The Snack World: TreJarers Gold <RPG> (Level 5) {2018.04.12} (¥5.980) - 35.655 / NEW
[PS4] Death end re;Quest # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2018.04.12} (¥7.200) - 15.303 / NEW
[PS4] Cities: Skylines - PlayStation 4 Edition <SLG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2018.04.12} (¥5.400) - 11.366 / NEW

Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2018 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

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Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2018 (Apr 23 - Apr 29)

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Media Create Sales: Week 18, 2018 (Apr 30 - May 06)

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Media Create Sales: Week 19, 2018 (May 07 - May 13)

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+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|System |   Week 12  |   Week 13  |   Week 14  |   Week 15  |   Week 16  |   Week 17  |   Week 18  |   Week 19  |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|  NSW  |     50.412 |     44.033 |     40.016 |     36.308 |     34.165 |            |            |            |
|  PS4  |     23.856 |     25.325 |     14.500 |     10.964 |     13.447 |            |            |            |
|  3DS  |     11.203 |     10.209 |      9.422 |      8.546 |      7.472 |            |            |            |
|  PSV  |      3.627 |      3.992 |      2.929 |      2.921 |      2.892 |            |            |            |
|  XB1  |        182 |        153 |        119 |         72 |        116 |            |            |            |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+

If 2012's trends will apply to 2018 as well, next week we should see all hardware increasing compared to Week 14, 2018
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Spain
Just to put the idea of long term selling products on the map, here's a couple of examples of long term sellers that appeal to a different audience than the typical gamer:

NDS Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! 44.166 / 3.847.136 Nintendo 19/05/2005
NDS Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! 416.124 / 5.082.322 Nintendo 29/12/2005
WII Wii Sports 176.880 / 3.724.565 Nintendo 02/12/2006
WII Wii Sports Resort 353.827 / 3.165.464 Nintendo 25/06/2009
WII Wii Fit 254.009 / 3.561.787 Nintendo 01/12/2007
WII Wii Fit Plus 318.755 / 2.417.762 Nintendo 01/10/2009

This pattern probably also explains why 1-2-Switch is also at 5x its launch number and is still going at a steady 2k a week (which it has been doing since before the second half of last year). Well, that and the salt produced by triggered hardcore gamers.

Maybe 1-2-Switch being a bad and overpriced game triggers more salt that the game being casual.
 

Brotherhood93

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Oct 28, 2017
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PS4 Pro sold double the PS4 so there's clearly significant shortages. Will be interesting to see where it levels out once stock isn't an issue again.
 

brutaka3

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Oct 27, 2017
482
Surprisingly low Switch sales. This is starting to get ridiculous at this point. Labo clearly flop fortunately. It did way below expectations. Hopefully Nintendo will abandon it and start focusing on core gamers 100%. They should have had Fire Emblem instead of Labo, Switch would have done better in general.

Even more ridiculous is GoW: ps4 owners in Japan are not buying their largest exclusive. Crazy.

I don't even know what is this post.
 

Tito

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Oct 28, 2017
1,030
LABO is one of those games that is hit or miss; because it will sell (or not) according to word of mouth; same as Brain Training, Nintendogs, Wii Music, etc.

It was never going to sell a ton out of the gate.

Nintendogs sold like 170k first week, and went on to be a multiple million seller.

LABO didn't sell as much, but we have to consider the $80 price on it too.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
14,719
The Netherlands
Maybe 1-2-Switch being a bad and overpriced game triggers more salt that the game being casual.
Could be (I'm not at all interested in it whether it was good or bad), but plenty of people seem to enjoy it (casual games don't have legs for the fun of it: they do need actual appeal to sell). People should accept that what the gaming audience has deemed bad may have appeal to a casual audience, yet plenty of people on this forum keep expressing their discontent with 1-2-Switch' continued sales. That's where the meme of the salt pushing the game forward comes from.