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ShinobiBk

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Dec 28, 2017
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What? Yoshi isn't even that popular in Japan to begin with.

Notice I said "remotely possible" and I only thought that cause of Nintendo's popularity in Japan. I was sure Yoshi would get washed everywhere personally. I just didn't think it had a chance at all overseas due to FromSoftware's huge surge in popularity the past few years with Dark Souls entering meme territory
 

Fularu

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Oct 25, 2017
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October 31st isn't really Holiday season.
This didn't prevent Mario Odyssey from beeing a Holiday game

I guess it will depend on how leggy it is (and if the S version releases at the same time).

In the west October releases are definitely viewed as Holidays ones though
 

Myriotes

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Jan 30, 2018
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Switch reached 8m, up 25% YoY this week, nearly +44% YTD.

Yoshi reaches 100k, only being half-niche now. Labo has decent legs.

Looking forward to Golden Week.
 

HardRojo

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope we get a Smash sales update soon, 3 million in Japan alone must be insane, right?
 
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Chris1964

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Oct 25, 2017
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Don't expect numbers next week, there 10 days in a row of holidays, from 27 April to 5 May. Japan will paralyze.
 

mjw

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Oct 27, 2017
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You know, it just dawned on me that we won't be seeing the HW splits between the Switch models when they release. Maybe we'll get first week sales, but after that is a wash. I don't think Dengeki separates HW either
 

Kerotan

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Oct 31, 2018
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So... Will Persona 5 Royal make any notable impact this year?

Seems like the last game on PS4 that could have any real impact on the JPN market before the PS5 succeeds it now...
Wouldn't the Monster Hunter expansion be bigger? And we don't know what games will be cross gen like FF7R or the next GTA. There's a chance TLOU2 or ghost of Tsushima/Death Stranding could do well also.
 

ItsOKAY

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Jan 26, 2018
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8 million..great...if someone would said in february 2017, that in early 2019 nintendo would be that good with the switch in japan..most of the people would have laughed very hard.
Great result.
 

srtrestre

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Wouldn't the Monster Hunter expansion be bigger? And we don't know what games will be cross gen like FF7R or the next GTA. There's a chance TLOU2 or ghost of Tsushima/Death Stranding could do well also.

Oh true! I did forget about Iceborne! That'll definitely be the PS4's last big hurrah before sailing off into the sunset.

I'm sure that the rest of those titles will be PS5 games now (except for Ghost of Tsushima; which will release on PS4 but won't sell well in Japan. It's a Western Combat Game. It'll tank). So they mean nothing for PS4 anymore.
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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Are we really comparing a new 3D Mario title on a system that hasnt had its first Holiday season yet and shortages - to a Persona 5 Re-release in 2019 ?
Joseki is right - cant just apply Ninten ever-green logic to every random 3rdParty release - especially for a JRPG re-release.

Having said that....P5R is def. the first bigger titles in that time frame for PS4 - so thats good for Sony.
When is Iceborne dropping ? Early 2020 or could it be a Holiday release ?
 

Avada Kedavra

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Jan 23, 2019
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Oh true! I did forget about Iceborne! That'll definitely be the PS4's last big hurrah before sailing off into the sunset.

I'm sure that the rest of those titles will be PS5 games now (except for Ghost of Tsushima; which will release on PS4 but won't sell well in Japan. It's a Western Combat Game. It'll tank). So they mean nothing for PS4 anymore.
You mean like Days Gone?
Big western games flopping hasn't been true since the PS4 came out in Japan.
 

schuelma

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Oct 24, 2017
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Are we really comparing a new 3D Mario title on a system that hasnt had its first Holiday season yet and shortages - to a Persona 5 Re-release in 2019 ?
Joseki is right - cant just apply Ninten ever-green logic to every random 3rdParty release - especially for a JRPG re-release.

Having said that....P5R is def. the first bigger titles in that time frame for PS4 - so thats good for Sony.
When is Iceborne dropping ? Early 2020 or could it be a Holiday release ?

Iceborne is supposed to be fall I believe.
 

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i just thought that late october/early november still counted as holidays going by the gaming industry definition of it
that's it
 
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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2019 (Apr 15 - Apr 21)
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Famitsu Sales: Week 16, 2019 (Apr 15 - Apr 21)

01./01. [PS4] Earth Defense Force: Iron Rain <ACT> (D3Publisher) {2019.04.11} (¥7.800) - 12.923 / 68.496 (-77%)
02./00. [PS4] Langrisser I & II <Langrisser \ Langrisser II> # <SLG> (Kadokawa Games) {2019.04.18} (¥6.800) - 11.902 / NEW
03./06. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 11.080 / 3.029.577 (-2%)
04./02. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 04: VR Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2019.04.12} (¥7.980) - 9.074 / 35.708 (-66%)
05./05. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} (¥5.980) - 9.061 / 100.733 (-31%)
06./00. [NSW] Langrisser I & II <Langrisser \ Langrisser II> # <SLG> (Kadokawa Games) {2019.04.18} (¥6.800) - 9.031 / NEW
07./08. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 8.532 / 737.500 (-6%)
08./04. [NSW] Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.04.04} (¥6.800) - 8.161 / 93.283 (-42%)
09./07. [PS4] Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice <ADV> (From Software) {2019.03.22} (¥7.600) - 7.654 / 231.649 (-31%)
10./09. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 7.299 / 575.844 (-14%)

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NSW - 7
PS4 - 3

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|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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|  NSW  |     40.338 |     54.101 |     32.476 |  1.110.512 |    772.632 |   8.000.058 |
| PS4 # |     11.363 |     11.793 |     11.807 |    481.497 |    745.596 |   8.033.587 |
| 3DS # |      3.232 |      3.340 |      8.010 |     97.460 |    252.824 |  24.402.424 |
| PSV # |        571 |        575 |      3.220 |     32.690 |     79.924 |   5.858.044 |
| XB1 # |         83 |         66 |        156 |      2.011 |      5.962 |     104.942 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |     55.587 |     69.875 |     55.693 |  1.724.170 |  1.858.091 |  46.399.055 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 X |         44 |         47 |         95 |      1.522 |      4.577 |      14.978 |
| XB1 S |         39 |         19 |         61 |        489 |      1.385 |      17.962 |
|PS4 Pro|      4.661 |      5.131 |      6.409 |    169.356 |    168.967 |   1.141.946 |
|  PS4  |      6.702 |      6.662 |      5.398 |    312.141 |    576.629 |   6.891.641 |
|  PSV  |        571 |        575 |      3.220 |     32.690 |     79.924 |   5.858.044 |
|n-2DSLL|      2.600 |      2.676 |      4.747 |     76.709 |    159.849 |   1.020.953 |
| n-3DS |        632 |        664 |      3.004 |     19.660 |     81.990 |   5.875.485 |
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Fularu

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Oct 25, 2017
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October is fall, by the time the holiday season starts everything released in October is "old". JRPG have no legs, so P5R is not really anything that will matter for the holiday season. That's my point.
Holiday season starts november 1st prety much everywhere. Game releases october 31st. Let's not be semantic about this. Game is a holiday release. It will remain to be seen if it shares the same legs as P4G and vanilla P5 or not (two very leggy games)
 

Fisico

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Oct 27, 2017
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You mean like Days Gone?
Big western games flopping hasn't been true since the PS4 came out in Japan.

They perform better and there are some great success (Spiderman, Horizon), but there are still a fair amount which are "niche" (hope I can borrow that word from you) like God of War, Detroit, Infamous.
Days Gone and Ghost of Tsushima may or may not fall in that later category, we'll see that soon enough.

Western games also already performed well on PS3
 

ShinobiBk

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Dec 28, 2017
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So, it just passed 10AM EST... no mention of a Mario Maker Direct coming tomorrow

I know we're expecting it to launch with the revision but I would've expected it to get it's own Direct this week for a blowout
 

Rand a. Thor

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Oct 31, 2017
10,213
Greece
8 mil in a little over 2 years time, and that's without revisions, price drops or the major handheld heavy hitters even being out yet. Switch is almost guaranteed 20mil+ lifetime, if not 25+. Nintendo must be super happy with these results.
 

Fularu

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, it just passed 10AM EST... no mention of a Mario Maker Direct coming tomorrow

I know we're expecting it to launch with the revision but I would've expected it to get it's own Direct this week for a blowout
They won't do a direct on the same week as the conference call for the full year results
 

ShinobiBk

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Dec 28, 2017
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Well my original prediction was May 1st or 2nd for Mario Maker Direct but people swore to me Nintendo wouldn't leave April without news for Mario Maker

I suppose they could just drop a video like they did for Smash 3.0 & Joker, but I'm certain the live streams get more attention
 

Gartooth

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Oct 25, 2017
8,440
I don't expect Mario Maker or Switch revision news to happen during Golden Week. Hopefully we hear about it today yet.
 

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P5R will influence PS4 hardware as much as DLC influenced Smash sales this week. As in, it didn't in a significant way and people overestimate stuff because of Era's bubble.
 

sfortunato

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Oct 25, 2017
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Langrisser did the best debut in the franchise since Langrisser Millennium on DC in 1999, which did about 23k FW. Outside Langrisser III on Saturn, the franchise never did above 100k so can be considered a pretty niche one. The remake numbers show there's not much interest around nowadays.

You mean like Days Gone?
Big western games flopping hasn't been true since the PS4 came out in Japan.

Outside Spiderman, even big Sony games just crawled to 200k units. God of War is below 150k units. Western Sony games are still relatively small and definitely not big sellers.
 

Sieglinde

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Feb 20, 2019
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Well my original prediction was May 1st or 2nd for Mario Maker Direct but people swore to me Nintendo wouldn't leave April without news for Mario Maker

I suppose they could just drop a video like they did for Smash 3.0 & Joker, but I'm certain the live streams get more attention
The Joker and 3.0 update video already has more views than the last Smash Direct i think it doesn't really matter if it's livestreamed or not, they really should start promoting SMM2 already i don't know what is taking them so long.
 

Avada Kedavra

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Jan 23, 2019
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Langrisser did the best debut in the franchise since Langrisser Millennium on DC in 1999, which did about 23k FW. Outside Langrisser III on Saturn, the franchise never did above 100k so can be considered a pretty niche one. The remake numbers show there's not much interest around nowadays.



Outside Spiderman, even big Sony games just crawled to 200k units. God of War is below 150k units. Western Sony games are still relatively small and definitely not big sellers.
It's not because they didn't sell 150k that they tanked.
 

ShinobiBk

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The Joker and 3.0 update video already has more views than the last Smash Direct i think it doesn't really matter if it's livestreamed or not, they really should start promoting SMM2 already i don't know what is taking them so long.

It's not 1:1 though as there's many, many people who do not watch the official Nintendo stream when watching live. Some ways the YouTube stream, some watch the Twitch stream and a lot of people watch a long with content creators live reacting to the stream.
I don't think a random video drop comes close to the anticipation of a Nintendo live stream
 

schuelma

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Oct 24, 2017
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The Joker and 3.0 update video already has more views than the last Smash Direct i think it doesn't really matter if it's livestreamed or not, they really should start promoting SMM2 already i don't know what is taking them so long.

Part of me thinks the reason MM2 hasn't been dated is its launching alongside Switch lite (or whatever its called) in June and they will be announced together.
 

Guaraná

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Oct 25, 2017
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Don't expect a direct for the next 15 days
This week is investors meeting and then there's golden week: a 10 days holiday that will stop Japan.

BTW pretty weird seeing a modern country like Japan stopping for 10 whole days. How is the marketing reacting to that?
 

Sieglinde

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Feb 20, 2019
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Part of me thinks the reason MM2 hasn't been dated is its launching alongside Switch lite (or whatever its called) in June and they will be announced together.
That seems to be case anyway it wouldn't hurt to show a bit more information even if they don't date the game but at this point they will have to do a big info drop so i do expect it will be when they're ready to reveal the new revision.