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Ehh, the things that make a worldwide release difficult for DQ wouldn't change if Nintendo were involved. The series is also more than big enough for Square Enix to just do it themselves if they care that much.
That is true I guess.
Honestly, we have still yet to see how Sony current bosses see games like DQ.
Let's remember that even MS paid for a OT port and GP deal, while nothing of Sony yet.
I doubt Sony sees the sales of the West of DQ and think, Let's get it!.
Let's remember that even MS paid for a OT port and GP deal, while nothing of Sony yet.
I doubt Sony sees the sales of the West of DQ and think, Let's get it!.
DQ12 being multiplat is expected. Sony isn't gonna buy exclusivity for a game that doesn't do well enough like that. at worst (if you can even call it this), MS will pay to have marketing rights in the west or some shit. but no one is gonna shell out the money to prevent a switch version. SE would ask too much for that and DQ isn't worth that
We're just assuming that Dragon Quest XII will follow the logic of the market and be released on Switch.
But Square-Enix is weird enough to put on PS5-PC and use the argument that they want to make the game in the maximum of the quality possible on the industry with this 4k120fps and just make a Dragon Quest Monsters with reduced scope for the Switch as some kind of compensation.
I'm saying that because after the DQ 11, people should always doubt the management of this franchise.
But Square-Enix is weird enough to put on PS5-PC and use the argument that they want to make the game in the maximum of the quality possible on the industry with this 4k120fps and just make a Dragon Quest Monsters with reduced scope for the Switch as some kind of compensation.
I'm saying that because after the DQ 11, people should always doubt the management of this franchise.
if it's as substantially more powerful as we expect, it's pretty much a portable PS4. maybe more if you're willing to render at 360p-540p
why do it yourself if you can have someone else do it for you, is what I always say
Well in this scenario if they do themselves they can release on PS/XB/
About talk of the next big DQ, I think we have to honestly consider that DQ will just be exclusive again, DQ11 was the result of predicting the Japanese market wrong and is the only reason it became multiplat in the 1st place.
Sony also had way more leverage to make and everything that happened after the initial release is square trying to make up for it monetarily.
Right now I can't see how square is looking at the PS5 in Japan and even considering it for the next DQ, its not like they could point to the west and say they can make it up there.
Sony also had way more leverage to make and everything that happened after the initial release is square trying to make up for it monetarily.
Right now I can't see how square is looking at the PS5 in Japan and even considering it for the next DQ, its not like they could point to the west and say they can make it up there.
The switch is such an unprecedented console
Square Enix is weird but they aren't dumb. They chose to put it on the PS4 because Yuji Horii wanted an HD game for the first time for the series. He got his wish and the Switch is an HD console where they can put an HD game on it.
COMG! preorders chart, Week 17 2020:
Each point represents one preorder at this retailer. It is a relatively small retailer located in one region so be careful when you extrapolate, especially regarding Otaku games (overrepresented) and family games (underrepresented).
1. Resident Evil Village Z version (PS4) - 61 pts (+14 pts)
2. Yugioh Rush Duel Strongest Battle Royale !! - 47 pts (+6 pts)
3. Rune Factory 5 - 26 pts (-1 pts)
4. Resident Evil Village Z version (PS5) - 22 pts (+5 pts)
5. Rune Factory 5 Collector's Edition - 14 pts (+1 pt)
6. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS4) - 12 pts (+1 pt)
7. Famicom Tantei Club Collector's Edition - 12 pts (+1 pt)
8. Utawarerumono Zan 2 (PS4) - 11 pts (+1 pt)
9. Samurai Warriors 5 (PS4) - 10 pts (+0 pt)
10. Skyward Sword HD - 10 pts (+0 pt)
11. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS5) - 8 pts (+0 pt)
12. Miitopia - 8 pts (+2 pts)
13. Samurai Warriors 5 (NSW) - 6 pts (+1 pt)
14. Resident Evil Village D version (PS4) - 6 pts (NEW)
15. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS5) - 6 pts (+1 pt)
16. Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade - 5 pts (+1 pt)
17. Resident Evil Village D version (PS5) - 5 pts (NEW)
18. Furaiki 4 (NSW) - 5 pts (+0 pt)
19. Mario Golf Super Rush - 4 pts (+0 pt)
20. Akiba's Trip Collector's Edition - 4 pts (NEW)
Each point represents one preorder at this retailer. It is a relatively small retailer located in one region so be careful when you extrapolate, especially regarding Otaku games (overrepresented) and family games (underrepresented).
1. Resident Evil Village Z version (PS4) - 61 pts (+14 pts)
2. Yugioh Rush Duel Strongest Battle Royale !! - 47 pts (+6 pts)
3. Rune Factory 5 - 26 pts (-1 pts)
4. Resident Evil Village Z version (PS5) - 22 pts (+5 pts)
5. Rune Factory 5 Collector's Edition - 14 pts (+1 pt)
6. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS4) - 12 pts (+1 pt)
7. Famicom Tantei Club Collector's Edition - 12 pts (+1 pt)
8. Utawarerumono Zan 2 (PS4) - 11 pts (+1 pt)
9. Samurai Warriors 5 (PS4) - 10 pts (+0 pt)
10. Skyward Sword HD - 10 pts (+0 pt)
11. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS5) - 8 pts (+0 pt)
12. Miitopia - 8 pts (+2 pts)
13. Samurai Warriors 5 (NSW) - 6 pts (+1 pt)
14. Resident Evil Village D version (PS4) - 6 pts (NEW)
15. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS5) - 6 pts (+1 pt)
16. Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade - 5 pts (+1 pt)
17. Resident Evil Village D version (PS5) - 5 pts (NEW)
18. Furaiki 4 (NSW) - 5 pts (+0 pt)
19. Mario Golf Super Rush - 4 pts (+0 pt)
20. Akiba's Trip Collector's Edition - 4 pts (NEW)
Snap sold 114 units at COMG last week, Rise dropped 12% (that'd be ~76k if Famitsu follows), Replicant dropped 74% (~28k if Famitsu follows) and evergreens rose, a lot.
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It's all up to Horii and I hope he doesn't fuck it up again.
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Also keep in mind DQXI PS4 was decided on when Switch, even NX, didn't exist. The choice for an HD tv game wasn't so much PS4 or Switch, it was PS4 or Wii U. PS4 at least also had FFXV, KH3, MGSV, RE7 and MH6 headed to it so it had a chance back in 2013/2014.
DQXI 3DS then came about midway through dev as a response to the market realities PS4 started facing in Japan then. Sort of like how (handheld) Rise was there as backup if World didn't take off globally, only MH didn't end up needing it while DQ did.
Looks like there's some Golden Week effect on COMGnet with those evergreens going up. They should grow more this week.
Hope it's not a Golden "Weak" this year and the jumps are good.
Hope it's not a Golden "Weak" this year and the jumps are good.
Tsutaya Ranking: Week 17, 2021 (26 Apr - 2 May)
01./00. [NSW] New Pokemon Snap <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2021.04.30} (¥5.980)
02./02. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise <ACT> (Capcom) {2021.03.26} (¥7.990)
03./01. [PS4] NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139… <RPG> (Square Enix) {2021.04.22} (¥7.800)
04./03. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury <ACT> (Nintendo) {2021.02.12} (¥5.980)
05./04. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300)
06./05. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
07./08. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
08./07. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980)
09./00. [PS5] Returnal <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2021.04.30} (¥7.900)
10./09. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
11./10. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
12./12. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <TBL> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980)
13./23. [NSW] Super Mario Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
14./15. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.11.22} (¥5.980)
15./06. [PS5] Judgment <ADV> (Sega) {2021.04.23} (¥1.800)
16./16. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town <SLG> (Marvelous) {2021.02.25} (¥5.980)
17./17. [NSW] Pokemon Sword <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
18./11. [NSW] QuickSpot: Master of the Right Brain <PZL> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.04.22} (¥3.200)
19./18. [NSW] Bravely Default II <RPG> (Square Enix) {2021.02.26} (¥6.800)
20./20. [NSW] Human: Fall Flat <ADV> (Teyon Japan) {2020.06.25} (¥3.500)
Top 20
NSW - 17
PS5 - 2
PS4 - 1
01./00. [NSW] New Pokemon Snap <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2021.04.30} (¥5.980)
02./02. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise <ACT> (Capcom) {2021.03.26} (¥7.990)
03./01. [PS4] NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139… <RPG> (Square Enix) {2021.04.22} (¥7.800)
04./03. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury <ACT> (Nintendo) {2021.02.12} (¥5.980)
05./04. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300)
06./05. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
07./08. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
08./07. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980)
09./00. [PS5] Returnal <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2021.04.30} (¥7.900)
10./09. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
11./10. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
12./12. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <TBL> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980)
13./23. [NSW] Super Mario Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
14./15. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.11.22} (¥5.980)
15./06. [PS5] Judgment <ADV> (Sega) {2021.04.23} (¥1.800)
16./16. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Pioneers of Olive Town <SLG> (Marvelous) {2021.02.25} (¥5.980)
17./17. [NSW] Pokemon Sword <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
18./11. [NSW] QuickSpot: Master of the Right Brain <PZL> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.04.22} (¥3.200)
19./18. [NSW] Bravely Default II <RPG> (Square Enix) {2021.02.26} (¥6.800)
20./20. [NSW] Human: Fall Flat <ADV> (Teyon Japan) {2020.06.25} (¥3.500)
Top 20
NSW - 17
PS5 - 2
PS4 - 1
hmm.... launching at 9th would probably be a below 10k FW for returnal, and stores like tsutaya seem to exaggerate sales of new titles on PS systems (see judgement for a recent example).
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With digital it is likely, at retail I dont think it will launch that high.
I don't think FY20Q4 can be used as an accurate point of comparison considering that factories in China were shut down for weeks. Under normal conditions they could've shipped 4M (for example). This FY21Q4 I'm expecting numbers closer to or around ~5M.
I'd say that the PS4 vs 3DS+Wii U situation is pretty different (in terms of: hardware specs, hardware sales, software sales) compared to the PS5 vs Switch situation
and, let's remember that even in the PS4 times, S-E was the one greenlighting a specific 3DS version anyway, plus annoucing a specific Switch version anyway, even when the console was "just" NX
I'd say that everything can happen, alright: but for DQXII to skip a Switch version, the most likely scenario is a Sony moneyhat
I think four of those preorders came over the weekend, sign they're picking up or just a blip?
It is usual for preorders to have a big uptick during the WE. It could be a sign but given how stable it was during the past days/weeks I wouldn't hold my breath.
Demo pushed things a bit, but mainly for the PS4 version.
Yeah, I just took a quick look at how Resident Evil 3 was doing last year and I think the comparison got even worse vs Friday. To quote my post from the other day:
6 days before release Resident Evil 3 Remake was at 129pts, and opened at 189k. Village is currently at 94pts. If that's representative then RE8 will open closer to ~140k.
PS4 is 67pt vs 27pt for PS5, which means that 140k would hypothetically break down as ~100k for PS4 and ~40k for PS5.
Hmm I think that a Snap start about 114k would not be so good to be honest.
(Taiwan)
Media Create Sales Week 16, 2021 (19 Apr - 25 Apr)
01./00. [PS4] NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139… (Square Enix) {2021.04.22}
02./01. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom) {2021.03.26}
03./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
04./00. [PS4] MLB: The Show 21 (Sony Interactive) {2021.04.20}
05./03. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}
Top 5
NSW - 3
PS4 - 2
(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 16, 2021 (19 Apr - 25 Apr)
01./01. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
02./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
03./04. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}
04./00. [PS4] NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139… (Square Enix) {2021.04.22}
05./05. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
Top 5
NSW - 4
PS4 - 1
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Media Create Sales Week 16, 2021 (19 Apr - 25 Apr)
01./00. [PS4] NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139… (Square Enix) {2021.04.22}
02./01. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom) {2021.03.26}
03./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
04./00. [PS4] MLB: The Show 21 (Sony Interactive) {2021.04.20}
05./03. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}
Top 5
NSW - 3
PS4 - 2
(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 16, 2021 (19 Apr - 25 Apr)
01./01. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
02./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
03./04. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}
04./00. [PS4] NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139… (Square Enix) {2021.04.22}
05./05. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
Top 5
NSW - 4
PS4 - 1
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Hmm I would have expected a better start for this game if we consider all the hype about it - even more if you consider the great hardware sales and software sales on Switch in general. I would have predicted that the game can do 700-800k in Japan and will start with 250k. If we assume a digital rate of 35-40%, then I would have expected a retail launch about 150-170k or something like that. 114k would disappoint me a litte bit - even more because its Golden Week.
But its not a simple spinoff, it is one of the bigger ones ;) The original game on N64 did ~650k in Japan - and that was on a quite smaller hardwarebase than the Switch does have. So I definetly expected New Snap to sell better than the orignal game.
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Honestly, I think 700k-800k is quite possible even if the debut is 150k-200k. For comparison, let's look at the original snap:
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N64 Pokémon Snap Nintendo 21 mrt. 1999 94.846 495.784Pokémon Snap was kind of middle-of-the-road in Japan, actually. There are plenty of spin-offs that did worse, but also a lot that did (significantly) better, for example Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, Pokémon Ranger, Pokémon Pinball, Pokémon TCG, and Pokémon Stadium.
Zedark hmm yes, I also though that the range of 700-750k would be very realistic. Because of the launch in Golden Week, I would have expected the game to start a bit more frontloaded, thats why I dont think that a launch about 114k would be soo good. 150k would look better, I agree to you in this point.
Capcom will give Konami a run for the money with some more MHR weeks, Stories 2 and RE something (if it happens).
Added: And the eventual MHRG, if it doesn't come out as a DLC.