Labo had the potential to do that I agree with you but anything else? Not at all and never in my opinion. At least Minecraft is coming maybe this will have a decent impact?
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Media Create Sales: Week 19, 2018 (May 07 - May 13)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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I mean, it depends on what you consider much. Some people claimed that the drops to 12k in the weeks leading up to GW were not due to hardware, which I think the 35k week in the week before GW (and after that the 35k week during GW, which is decently higher than what PS4 did last year) and the week or two where PRO sold more than the base unit clearly disprove.
I don't think anyone tried to claim that PS4 sales would be significantly up at in those weeks YoY when comparing week for week, just that the discrepancy being so large was due to stock issues
Seems the speculated stock issues for PS4 never were really a thing or decreased PS4 sales meaningful.
Software and Switch hardware sales seems good for this time of year.
Software and Switch hardware sales seems good for this time of year.
The Switch will clear ball park 4m this year. I'm totally uninterested in this H1 being WiiU ports is a huge mistake that will have big repurcussion discussion at this point. Jesus christ, when the fuck has post GW (hell summer in general) ever been what you judge HW and SW on?
One more week in the Top 20, despite sales dropping over 50% and now >2k/week. Got the feeling it's going to hang around for a few more weeks.
It's particularly funny considering Switch has sold more than last year, and will continue to do so without any major releases in H2. Then, in H2 there's a shitload of big content lined up, so it will sell way more than in 2017.
10k seems way too low. Has the ps4 ever been at that level? I'm thinking 12k will be the lowest it will go
Its at 17K and I'm not seeing a lot of dated games that will do much of anything.
Having games that simmer in H1 and releasing your heavy hitters in H2 is a valid strategy. If Nintendo (or any publisher really) could release a 10m seller ever quarter they would but nobody can so the criticism is extremely pointless.
If they had to choose between making sure year 1 on Switch established itself big and spreading out games for a menial year 2 H1 increase I think the choice is obvious.
And like you said, they will sell more than last year so what is the problem?
I think in an ideal world they would have had a bigger hitter H1. I suspect they thought Labo could be that title.
Nothing about Switch hardware sales in 2018 thus far from all the sources we get numbers suggest to me they actually need a huge H1 title.
I also dont actually think Nintendo bets on kids cardboard for a $300 system to blow up as their "big" H1 title either. I think there is a reason Labo is H1 and not H2.
Surprised how low software sales are even for the week after GW. Switch sales were about what I expected.
Pretty excited (scared for?) next week cause of Caligula: Overdrive. I want to see that game do well, it looks pretty cool.
Pretty excited (scared for?) next week cause of Caligula: Overdrive. I want to see that game do well, it looks pretty cool.
Its not unprecedented to have a big hitter in H1. I agree with you its not going to be a big deal in the long run- but I do think they were hoping for more from Labo.
Selling more units in 2018 than in 2017 wouldn't be an achievement considering the total amount of 2017 Switch Japanese sales, sure it was supplied constrained, wasn't... that good... compared to previous Nintendo handhelds and how much it is selling everywhere else in the world. Let's hope they will do much much better than just beating that.
Last year PS4 was at 17K too, and this is the worst period of the year, so it's not gonna have such a huge drop like that for the next weeks.
A big H1 title is a good thing. Obviously a GOW type game does wonders. But weak H1 outside of year 1 doesnt make or break systems.
Do I think they wanted Labo to be bigger out the gate? Yes. Do I think the performance right now is worrying? For the Robot Kit yes, for the Variety kit not at all
Would love to hear what you consider to be "much better" than 3.4M for a system priced as a home console both hardware and software wise.
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The only one that sets the targets for a successful or not Fiscal Year is Nintendo.
How much did the 3DS in its second year ? Something comparable to that probably.
PS4 had DQ11 last summer and I don't believe KH3 will release this summer. I can see it releasing in November/December and up until that point there is not much of relevancy imo.
The 1 or 2 million they will fall behind in Japan will be vastly vastly made up by the rest of the world then absolutely demolished by significantly higher software sales on Switch.
There is nothing to be worried about. Even if you ignore the rest of the world and focus on Japan, whatever imaginary expectations we set up for "good", when you clear 4m a year you are not in any danger.
Its pointless doom and glooming over what is going to make barely any difference in market and mindshare.
I'm not "doom and glooming" I'm just saying what expectations should be for a very good year for Switch in Japan imho.
Yes, for 3 days for sort of attacking Retro. What a waste, the post he was banned for wasn't even funny... :-)
This. I am getting really sick and tired of people saying ignorant things like "Xenoblade sales are niche at best!" and "ARMS is a disappointment because it's not selling as well as Splatoon 2." Nintendo is setting the targets for what success is, not anybody else.
Lets revisit this when/if the Switch reaches a similar price-point to 3DS/DS/GameBoy.
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Neither Pokemon can generate so many months of hype. It will be a very slow year for PS4 until holidays if there isn't a price drop.
PS4 didn't have big release before DQ and it managed to have even better weeks than that before July/August.
It is not gonna have such bad weeks like 10k or so, maybe under 15k.
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In reference to this:
Yes It's doom and gloomy with a little bit of strawman to boot.
And for the record. My position is H1 releases this year doesn't matter at all as far as driving hardware is concerned.
Nintendo blew their load in year 1 to establish the system and having a weaker H1 hardware wise as a result is fine given software wise its been great.
Again, I literally do not think HW matters at all from Jan to now given its not floating in the 15-20k range. Thus the whole relying on WiiU ports to sustain HW point has been irrelevant to me from day 1 because the strategy is clearly to ride year 1 success until they turn the corner in H2.
If they wanted to boost hardware they would release a new game in a series that historically sells over 5m units. If you are relying on ports (and that port isn't MK) you obviously arent worried about HW.
The extent people are sweating 10-15k a week is mind baffling
im a nintendo fan but people on media create threads have become super defensive and overprotective when it comes to nintendo
people can have different expectations than nintendo/you when it comes to sales without being "wrong" you know
people can have different expectations than nintendo/you when it comes to sales without being "wrong" you know
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If you want to post your expectations then its subject to criticism. I don't really know what you're getting at.
Sure they can. It is just that those opinions are ultimately irrelevant next to what Nintendo's metrics were, if it made them money, if it pleased the BoD and share holders enough...
Like I could have wished Labo opened with 1 million in sales, but that has no impact on how Nintendo as a business views it or the long term plans for the project if the current sales trajectory is in line with their goals and they end up turning a profit.
im getting at not denying the truth. switch sales this year have been disappointing in japan relative to expectations. and yes, the underwhelming software launches were the main reason, there's no defending that if one is being intelectually honest. with himself and others
There's Kingdom Hearts 3, depending on how far you define the horizon.
No one is stating otherwise in regards to mediocre hardware. In regards to expectations, whose?
No one is stating otherwise
You're seeing what you want to see frankly.
H1 hardware has been mediocre. Yes.
Using WiiU ports to pad H1 was a mistake? Naw, you will need better more complete evidence to make that claim. That's what people are taking issue with and it's pretty obvious why.
Looking at COMG there's Dark Souls Remastered, Persona Dance, Gundam Breaker, Fate Extella Link, and Neptunia in the near future. Lots of small titles, but no "big" (assuming you mean on the level of DQ/FF/MH)
I'd buy robot kit if discounted.
Labo is fun, but it's not cheap and it's not easy to demo. That's a huge problem for it. You can't really generate word of mouth with it.
Labo is fun, but it's not cheap and it's not easy to demo. That's a huge problem for it. You can't really generate word of mouth with it.