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Chris1964

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Resident Evil Revelations on Switch went so high because it was same priced with gyros added. Overpriced RE won't do many things without extras. Motion controls on Resident Evil 4 Wii played big part for its success.

Honeymoon period between Capcom and Switch has ended if they don't try a bit.
 

MysticGon

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I could see P3rd HD as a base building lead-in to Switch's Gen 5 game, particularly if it revives the Portable sibling brand. Sort of like how Wii got G right before 3/Tri.

Then again XX/GU sort of already did the same thing so maybe there's not much point. Enhanced ports of Stories 1.3 or Nikki DX might be more worthwhile in a way.

Well what is XX at? 350k with the discount version?

That's probably what I would hope for with a 3rd HD ver port. If we are talking base building I'd say that would be a better path to go down than updating a game that sold not much more than that on it's first go. It'd probably end up more like Snack World.

But if its about bringing in a different demographic I'd agree. Nikki would probably do gangbusters too.
 

fiendcode

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Well what is XX at? 350k with the discount version?

That's probably what I would hope for with a 3rd HD ver port. If we are talking base building I'd say that would be a better path to go down than updating a game that sold not much more than that on it's first go. It'd probably end up more like Snack World.

But if its about bringing in a different demographic I'd agree. Nikki would probably do gangbusters too.
I could also see a different classic port like 2nd G HD. While 3rd was the best selling MH, 2nd G is still seen as the height by many fans. Also 3rd is sort of supplanted content wise by 3G.
 

MysticGon

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I could also see a different classic port like 2nd G HD. While 3rd was the best selling MH, 2nd G is still seen as the height by many fans. Also 3rd is sort of supplanted content wise by 3G.

Well in that case you already have 3G HD waiting in the wings. Maybe it could follow the trend of other Wii U ports. It all falls in line with Capcom's plan for this fiscal year.
 

fiendcode

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Well in that case you already have 3G HD waiting in the wings. Maybe it could follow the trend of other Wii U ports. It all falls in line with Capcom's plan for this fiscal year.
Well I think part of the reasoning for 2nd G or 3rd specifically would be in resurrecting the Portable brand if they're also using it for the Gen 5 Switch game. I can see the merits in 3G or even 4G but they don't check that box.
 

MysticGon

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Well I think part of the reasoning for 2nd G or 3rd specifically would be in resurrecting the Portable brand if they're also using it for the Gen 5 Switch game. I can see the merits in 3G or even 4G but they don't check that box.

That or keep Cross going. I just think the previous HD versions might be the easiest to justify since the art budget would probably be smaller.
 

foxuzamaki

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I get betting on legacy titles, but porting those games when Generations is already on Switch isn't going to move the kind of numbers they want. they should be porting experiences they can't already get on teh switch, like MHStories, or the DMCs people actually want, like DMC4, DmC, or the entire trilogy
Now hold on there partner. Nobody of worth actually wants DmC over the original, its just adding anything else with it would be a much stronger deal
 

Chris1964

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Week 21, 2019 (May 20 - May 26)

{2019.05.21}
[NSW] Team Sonic Racing <RCE> (Sega) (¥5.990)
[NSW] Team Sonic Racing (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <RCE> (Sega) (¥5.990)

[PS4] Team Sonic Racing <RCE> (Sega) (¥5.990)
[PS4] Team Sonic Racing (ε) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RCE> (Sega) (¥5.990)
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{2019.05.22}
[PS4] Closers _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Laplace) (¥0)

[XB1] Marenian Tavern Story: Patty and the Hungry God _Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Kemco) (¥1.400)
[XB1] Back in 1995 _Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Ratalaika Games) (¥907)

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{2019.05.23}
[3DS] Daisenryaku: Dai Toua Kouboushi DX - Dainiji Sekai Taisen <SLG> (SystemSoft Alpha) (¥6.500)
[3DS] Daisenryaku: Dai Toua Kouboushi DX - Dainiji Sekai Taisen (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <SLG> (SystemSoft Alpha) (¥6.500)

[NSW] Shiritsu BeruBara Gakuen: Versailles no Bara ReImagination # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.300)
[NSW] Shiritsu BeruBara Gakuen: Versailles no Bara ReImagination (Limited Edition) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.300)
[NSW] Shiritsu BeruBara Gakuen: Versailles no Bara ReImagination (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.300)
[NSW] Minna no Doubutsu Shogi <TBL> (SilverStar) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Minna no Doubutsu Shogi (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <TBL> (SilverStar) (¥4.320)
[NSW] Assassin's Creed III Remastered <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Assassin's Creed III Remastered (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥4.800)
[NSW] Resident Evil: Origins Collection <Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster \ Resident Evil HD Remaster> <ADV> (Capcom) (¥5.500)
[NSW] Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Capcom) (¥3.056)
[NSW] Resident Evil HD Remaster (ε) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Capcom) (¥3.056)
[NSW] Resident Evil 4 _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Capcom) (¥3.056)
[NSW] Minna no Soukoban _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Unbalance) (¥1.833)
[NSW] Super Real Mahjong P VI _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <TBL> (Mighty Craft) (¥1.833)
[NSW] Wonder Boy Returns Remix _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (CFK) (¥1.500)
[NSW] Heroine Anthem Zero: Episode 1 _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Winking Skywalker Entertainment) (¥1.370)
[NSW] Back in 1995 _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Ratalaika Games) (¥907)
[NSW] V.O.I.D. _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (EastAsiaSoft) (¥462)
[NSW] Star Sky _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <ADV> (Playism) (¥461)
[NSW] Arcade Archives: Image Fight _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <STG> (Hamster) (¥762)

[PS4] Assassin's Creed III Remastered <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Assassin's Creed III Remastered (ε) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Marenian Tavern Story: Patty and the Hungry God <RPG> (Kemco) (¥1.980)
[PS4] Space Junkies _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥4.800)
[PS4] Arcade Archives: Image Fight _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <STG> (Hamster) (¥762)
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{2019.05.24}
[XB1] American Fugitive _Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Curve Digital) (¥2.175)
 

hiska-kun

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Oct 26, 2017
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Tsutaya Ranking: Week 20, 2019 (13 May - 19 May)

01./01. [PS4] Days Gone <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.04.26} (¥6.900)
02./02. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
03./03. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
04./00. [PS4] Ys: Memories of Celceta - Kai <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2019.05.16} (¥3.980)
05./04. [PS4] Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice <ADV> (From Software) {2019.03.22} (¥7.600)
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
07./05. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} (¥5.980)
08./09. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980)
09./06. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980)
10./08. [NSW] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.04.25} (¥5.800)
11./10. [NSW] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.04.11} (¥6.800)
12./13. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980)
13./14. [NSW] Super Mario Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
14./11. [NSW] Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.04.04} (¥6.800)
15./12. [PS4] Earth Defense Force: Iron Rain <ACT> (D3Publisher) {2019.04.11} (¥7.800)
16./19. [NSW] Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.04.25} (¥3.990)
17./16. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege - Deluxe Edition <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.04.11} (¥3.600)
18./15. [PS4] Tom Clancy's The Division 2 <RPG> (Ubisoft) {2019.03.15} (¥8.400)
19./25. [PS4] NieR: Automata - Game of the YoRHa Edition <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.02.21} (¥4.800)
20./20. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} (¥6.100)

Top 20

NSW - 13
PS4 - 7
 

Chris1964

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Oct 25, 2017
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GEO stores: Week 20, 2019 (May 13 - May 19)

01./00. [PS4] Ys: Memories of Celceta - Kai <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2019.05.16} (¥3.980)
02./01. [PS4] Days Gone <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.04.26} (¥6.900)
03./02. [NSW] Minecraft <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
04./03. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
05./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
06./05. [PS4] Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice <ADV> (From Software) {2019.03.22} (¥7.600)
07./06. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} (¥5.980)
08./09. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800)
09./07. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980)
10./14. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980)

Top 10

NSW - 6
PS4 - 4

Nothing important at comments, slow week.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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A MH3U/4U HD double pack for Switch might do decently well; while costing very little to make...

I could see Capcom doing that...
 

Gartooth

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Oct 25, 2017
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We could still have a Switch revision bump to look forward to this summer, maybe? (hopefully?)
 
Oct 25, 2017
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We could still have a Switch revision bump to look forward to this summer, maybe? (hopefully?)
Yes but even without a revision, things should get more interesting in June.

It is basically the calm before the storm
Could be announced any day now if it's out in June.
Would make for a pretty killer summer, but yeah. Even without it things should get heated up.

The Yokai watch delay means it'll take awhile longer for things to get going, tho
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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A reminder that Level 5 comcept is a thing, Keiji Inafune is still alive (yes, yes!), and he's working on a game called Dragon Colonies. Pre-registration now live for a Summer release.



inb4 the L5 Mobile Curse delays this one into oblivion.
 

Fisico

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Oct 27, 2017
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A reminder that Level 5 comcept is a thing, Keiji Inafune is still alive (yes, yes!), and he's working on a game called Dragon Colonies. Pre-registration now live for a Summer release.



inb4 the L5 Mobile Curse delays this one into oblivion.


>not Red Ash

I can wait


B-b-but what about the handheld versions of Mighty n°9 ? (they last talked about it not being dead right after Level 5 bought Comcept)
 

ILikeFeet

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B-b-but what about the handheld versions of Mighty n°9 ? (they last talked about it not being dead right after Level 5 bought Comcept)
the closest you'll get to that is a Switch port. but there are more fun ways to waste your money

also, why does every pair of breasts jiggle in that trailer?
 

Chris1964

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Oct 25, 2017
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2019 will see another drop for Switch Capcom sales in Japan, 2nd year in row.

2017>2018>2019.

If something like Resident Evil 5 gets released things will improve a bit but so far without important titles sales are even more anemic than 2018. West had Monster Hunter last year, 2018>2019 is given here.
 

Gartooth

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Oct 25, 2017
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Could be announced any day now if it's out in June.
Would make for a pretty killer summer, but yeah. Even without it things should get heated up.

The Yokai watch delay means it'll take awhile longer for things to get going, tho

I do wonder how summer is stacking up so far. YW4 and Mario Maker will be big games in June, but I wonder if there's any other big performers to look forward to in the later months. Fire Emblem?
 

Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
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2019 will see another drop for Switch Capcom sales in Japan, 2nd year in row.

2017>2018>2019.

If something like Resident Evil 5 gets released things will improve a bit but so far without important titles sales are even more anemic than 2018. West had Monster Hunter last year, 2018>2019 is given here.

It's a shame Capcom don't provide a platform breakdown of their revenue, like Ubisoft does. That sure would be amusing.

B-b-but what about the handheld versions of Mighty n°9 ? (they last talked about it not being dead right after Level 5 bought Comcept)

Didn't they basically say "no comment" rather than "yes, it's still alive"?.
 

casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
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if we're talking a single game basis, I'll choose DmC over DMC1 every time. I value good art direction

From seeing what ma cousin played, i will also take DmC over DMC 2 lol. The only really great DMC for me is 3 anyway. 4 is also just okay.

B-b-but what about the handheld versions of Mighty n°9 ? (they last talked about it not being dead right after Level 5 bought Comcept)

It still baffled me to remember that L5 save comcept lol... like, why help that businessman lol.
 
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Fisico

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Didn't they basically say "no comment" rather than "yes, it's still alive"?.


The notice of Comcept being bought by Level 5 was the 15th June 2017
The KS page was updated the 15 June 2017 with the screenshoted comments (link is there but it's only available for backers to see)

Considering what is said and the timeline, Comcept probably thought Level 5 were giving them free money to finish their mess but in the end Level 5 backed out really quickly for some reason (like not swimming in Youkai Watch money anymore).

I of course don't expect anything from it anymore, nor do I wish it in the first place, but I at least want to laugh and enjoy this mess as much as I can considering how much money I put into that.
 

Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
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No way this releases in summer lol

Well, it was originally slated for a 2018 release, so... ;)

The notice of Comcept being bought by Level 5 was the 15th June 2017
The KS page was updated the 15 June 2017 with the screenshoted comments (link is there but it's only available for backers to see)

Considering what is said and the timeline, Comcept probably thought Level 5 were giving them free money to finish their mess but in the end Level 5 backed out really quickly for some reason (like not swimming in Youkai Watch money anymore).

I of course don't expect anything from it anymore, nor do I wish it in the first place, but I at least want to laugh and enjoy this mess as much as I can considering how much money I put into that.

Was thinking of something more recent, but I may be misremembering.
 
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Chris1964

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If current boom doesn't slow down Mario Maker 2 is heading for a very big opening.
 

Lite_Agent

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If current boom doesn't slow down Mario Maker 2 is heading for a very big opening.

Gonna single-handedly compensate for slow May and June sales.

SMM2 really is the best of both worlds.

SMM1 on Wii U was great, but held back by unpopular platform.
SMM1 on 3DS was great, but missing some features, but it had a significant amount of extra content and was on popular platform.
SMM2 is massively expanded game on popular platform with all features and content.
 
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Lelouch0612

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think there are comparisons to be drawn between Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Maker 2 :

The previous entries in their respective (sub-)franchises were held back by the WiiU, released in 2015 and still became million-sellers :

[WiiU] Splatoon (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥5.980) - 156.610 / 1.679.880
[WiiU] Super Mario Maker (Nintendo) {2019.09.10} (¥5.980) - 143.514 / 1.076.843

Now, Splatoon 2 already doubled Splatoon 1 LTD, so expectations for Super Mario Maker 2 is for the game to cross 2 millions. Keep in mind that the Switch is more mainstream than the WiiU so that could benefit Mario games.

Looking at the opening weeks would be misguided since Splatoon 2 opened on a far lower install base but 500k+ should be achievable (especially given SMBUDX opening) and bode very well for its lifetime numbers.

My expectations : 500k FW/2,5m+ LTD
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder if SMM2 could potentially get back to NSMB heyday global numbers. Not 30M+ but maybe somewhere about 20M?

I guess the requirement for NSO will probably hamper its potential quite a bit?
 

Gartooth

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Oct 25, 2017
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Probably unrealistic, but I hope SMM2 has the biggest FW on Switch in 2019. It really feels like they took the Wii U game's winning concept and made it into the ultimate 2D Mario game.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I wonder if SMM2 could potentially get back to NSMB heyday global numbers. Not 30M+ but maybe somewhere about 20M?

I guess the requirement for NSO will probably hamper its potential quite a bit?

That's absolutely impossible. SMM2's ceiling is 10 million. It's a concept that has inherently limited appeal compared to a true, new traditional 2D Mario game.
 

Lelouch0612

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Probably unrealistic, but I hope SMM2 has the biggest FW on Switch in 2019. It really feels like they took the Wii U game's winning concept and made it into the ultimate 2D Mario game.
100% unrealistic, even huge selling Mario games are not frontloaded.

In fact, no Mario game opened above 1m and obviously Pokemon should do that easily.

However, Mario games are leggy so it has a shot at being the best selling Switch game in 2019.