Media Create Sales: Week 20, 2021 (May 17 - May 23)

Lelouch0612 · May 31, 2021

COMG! preorders chart, Week 21 2020:
Each point represents one preorder at this retailer. It is a relatively small retailer located in one region so be careful when you extrapolate, especially regarding Otaku games (overrepresented) and family games (underrepresented).

1. Yugioh Rush Duel Strongest Battle Royale !! - 59 pts (+1 pt)
2. Utawarerumono Zan 2 (PS4) - 21 pts (+1 pt)
3. Samurai Warriors 5 (PS4) - 21 pts (+5 pts)
4. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS4) - 17 pts (+0 pt)
5. Monster Hunter Stories 2 - 14 pts (+3 pts)
6. Skyward Sword HD - 14 pts (+3 pts)
7. Summer Pockets REFLECTION BLUE (NSW) - 13 pts (+1 pt)
8. Utawarerumono Zan 2 (PS5) - 12 pts (+0 pt)
9. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS5) - 12 pts (+1 pt)
10. Samurai Warriors 5 (NSW) - 10 pts (+0 pt)
11. Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade - 10 pts (+1 pt)
12. Tales of Arise (PS4) - 7 pts (+1 pt)
13. Scarlett Nexus (PS5) - 7 pts (+2 pts)
14. Mario Golf Super Rush - 7 pts (+0 pt)
15. eBaseball Pro Baseball Spirits 2021 - 6 pts (+0 pt)
16. Furaiki 4 (NSW) - 6 pts (+1 pt)
17. Lost Judgment (PS5) - 5 pts (+1 pt)
18. Lost Judgment (PS4) - 5 pts (NEW)
19. Scarlett Nexus (PS4) - 5 pts (NEW)
20. Guilty Gear Ultimate Edition (PS4) - 5 pts (+0 pt)

hiska-kun · May 31, 2021

(Taiwan)
Media Create Sales Week 20, 2021 (17 May - 23 May)

01./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.31}
02./02. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom) {2021.03.26}
03./04. [NSW] Family Trainer (Bandai Namco Games) {2021.04.29}
04./05. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05}
05./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}

Top 5

NSW - 5

(South Korea)
Media Create Sales Week 20, 2021 (17 May - 23 May)

01./00. [NSW] Miitopia (Nintendo) {2021.05.21}
02./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) {2019.10.18}
03./02. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) {2020.03.20}
04./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
05./05. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury (Nintendo) {2021.02.12}

Top 5

NSW - 5

MediaCreate 5 月 17 日～5 月 23 日一週銷售排行榜《符文工廠 5》新作奪冠

巴哈姆特 GNN 與日本遊戲業界分析公司 MediaCreate 合作，每週定期刊載由 MediaCreate 調查與統計的日本、台灣與韓國地區家用遊樂器主機遊戲軟體的一週銷售排行榜，供玩家參考。《符文工廠 5》當週有 2 款新上市遊戲入榜，分別為《符文工廠 5》與《迷托邦》，不過都沒有出現在台灣榜上 ※。需求再次竄升的《健身環大冒險》當週三地都有

gnn.gamer.com.tw

*Rune Factory 5 will launch in September in Taiwan.

Lite_Agent · May 31, 2021

Tbone5189 said:
NSW pro might be very limited, giving the rumors of Delayed launch for Europe. Also being $399.99 (if true) will be a huge leap in price.

Oh, it's definitely going to be limited, but I'd take any rumours about delay in Europe with a huge pinch of salt. There were similar rumours for BOTW missing launch in Europe, and in the end, they proved completely groundless.

Also, $399.99 price doesn't make sense given Bloomberg's report about this model replacing the OG model. Yeah, new revisions for past Nintendo consoles saw a price increase, but $100 is a tad too much. $349 tops is my guess, though of course, I don't have the actual specs so...

Kouriozan said:
Maybe if Nintendo release a trailer showcasing the Pro, Outrage will be there, just like they showed how good Revelaitons looked on 3DS.

Oh, you can bet there's definitely going to be some sort of outrage, but it might not necessarily be related to Resident Evil ;D

hiska-kun said:
*Rune Factory 5 will launch in September in Taiwan.

Hmm, wonder if that's when EU/NA will get the game?

MysticGon · May 31, 2021

Lelouch0612 said:
COMG! preorders chart, Week 21 2020:
Each point represents one preorder at this retailer. It is a relatively small retailer located in one region so be careful when you extrapolate, especially regarding Otaku games (overrepresented) and family games (underrepresented).

1. Yugioh Rush Duel Strongest Battle Royale !! - 59 pts (+1 pt)
2. Utawarerumono Zan 2 (PS4) - 21 pts (+1 pt)
3. Samurai Warriors 5 (PS4) - 21 pts (+5 pts)
4. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS4) - 17 pts (+0 pt)
5. Monster Hunter Stories 2 - 14 pts (+3 pts)
6. Skyward Sword HD - 14 pts (+3 pts)
7. Summer Pockets REFLECTION BLUE (NSW) - 13 pts (+1 pt)
8. Utawarerumono Zan 2 (PS5) - 12 pts (+0 pt)
9. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS5) - 12 pts (+1 pt)
10. Samurai Warriors 5 (NSW) - 10 pts (+0 pt)
11. Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade - 10 pts (+1 pt)
12. Tales of Arise (PS4) - 7 pts (+1 pt)
13. Scarlett Nexus (PS5) - 7 pts (+2 pts)
14. Mario Golf Super Rush - 7 pts (+0 pt)
15. eBaseball Pro Baseball Spirits 2021 - 6 pts (+0 pt)
16. Furaiki 4 (NSW) - 6 pts (+1 pt)
17. Lost Judgment (PS5) - 5 pts (+1 pt)
18. Lost Judgment (PS4) - 5 pts (NEW)
19. Scarlett Nexus (PS4) - 5 pts (NEW)
20. Guilty Gear Ultimate Edition (PS4) - 5 pts (+0 pt)

I hope the Monster Hunter Stories 2 pre-orders pick up.

3 PS5 games in the list is encouraging though.

Saicho · May 31, 2021

Joxer said:
By the end of it's run, BOTW will have outsold every Final Fantasy apart from VII and VIII in Japan.

And, as the posters above pointed out, it has outsold the most recent entries comfortably. Basically, you have to go back to the late 90s to get a FF game bigger than BOTW. It highlights the harsh decline of both the FF and Playstation brands but also the skill of Nintendo in keeping their franchises relevant and in many cases, seeing them reach new highs.

I don't know why Zelda is being compared with FF and DQ though... it's not a JRPG or third party

CeroMiedo said:
But like, wasn't FFXV a massively overshipped game, does a game like that even have something called potential?

Savage

MegaXZero · May 31, 2021

Saicho said:
I don't know why Zelda is being compared with FF and DQ though... it's not a JRPG

Capcom disagrees

Joxer · May 31, 2021

Saicho said:
I don't know why Zelda is being compared with FF and DQ though... it's not a JRPG or third party

If you go back to the original conversation, a poster was asking whether Zelda can be considered in the same league as FF and DQ as big adventure games.

Joxer · May 31, 2021

Biomutant will probably end up being in the lower reaches of the top ten. These types of games always seem to be over-represented in the the retailer charts compared to the actual Famitsu results.

Saicho · May 31, 2021

Joxer said:
If you go back to the original conversation, a poster was asking whether Zelda can be considered in the same league as FF and DQ as big adventure games.

But FF and DQ are not adventure games... ;)

Anyhow it's a weird comparison because FF has not been in the same club as DQ in Japan for a long time... it's been replaced by MH

ItsOKAY · May 31, 2021

Lelouch0612 said:
COMG! preorders chart, Week 21 2020:
Each point represents one preorder at this retailer. It is a relatively small retailer located in one region so be careful when you extrapolate, especially regarding Otaku games (overrepresented) and family games (underrepresented).

1. Yugioh Rush Duel Strongest Battle Royale !! - 59 pts (+1 pt)
2. Utawarerumono Zan 2 (PS4) - 21 pts (+1 pt)
3. Samurai Warriors 5 (PS4) - 21 pts (+5 pts)
4. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS4) - 17 pts (+0 pt)
5. Monster Hunter Stories 2 - 14 pts (+3 pts)
6. Skyward Sword HD - 14 pts (+3 pts)
7. Summer Pockets REFLECTION BLUE (NSW) - 13 pts (+1 pt)
8. Utawarerumono Zan 2 (PS5) - 12 pts (+0 pt)
9. Utawarerumono Zan 2 Collector's Edition (PS5) - 12 pts (+1 pt)
10. Samurai Warriors 5 (NSW) - 10 pts (+0 pt)
11. Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade - 10 pts (+1 pt)
12. Tales of Arise (PS4) - 7 pts (+1 pt)
13. Scarlett Nexus (PS5) - 7 pts (+2 pts)
14. Mario Golf Super Rush - 7 pts (+0 pt)
15. eBaseball Pro Baseball Spirits 2021 - 6 pts (+0 pt)
16. Furaiki 4 (NSW) - 6 pts (+1 pt)
17. Lost Judgment (PS5) - 5 pts (+1 pt)
18. Lost Judgment (PS4) - 5 pts (NEW)
19. Scarlett Nexus (PS4) - 5 pts (NEW)
20. Guilty Gear Ultimate Edition (PS4) - 5 pts (+0 pt)

Does someone know, how MHS did in the same timeframe?

MysticGon · Jun 1, 2021

Random thought but out of all the former million-selling franchises (Musou, RE, Yu-Gi-Oh, L5, etc) I think Dynasty Warriors has the best potential to reclaim it's crown if it gets attached to the right license. One Piece nearly got them there but now there are manga popping up left and right that are giving One Piece numbers a run for their money. In fact One Piece wasn't even among the top 5 bestselling series so far this year. Hopefully they can attach themselves to the next Demon Slayer.

AquaWateria · Jun 1, 2021

I assume VF 5 being on PS Plus might help it. Don't know how well it will do outside that.

I'm glad that Sega is bringing it back, but man are they too damn cautious with just locking it on one platform. Have they not even considered a PC release. Still disappointing that they didn't even consider making a new game.

I think that's my problem with Sega well at least Sega Japan. Compared to their contemporaries in Japan they are doing the worse. They have all these IPs, but they do not know how to effectively use them right. Sakura Wars should have been an IP that could have come back in a big way like Fire Emblem, but they messed up big time with their boneheaded decisions. Then there is Sonic which hasn't been a strong gaming IP for years with Forces being a joke. Then you have Yakuza which seems like it's growing in the West (Don't know how big the growth is tho), but continues to decline in Japan. It's crazy to see how stronger their European section is doing compared to them.

They said they are trying to bring back their older IPs, but honestly I have no faith in them. It's not like they have shown promise in their recent actions lol. Still, I guess we will have to wait and see.

Yep · Jun 1, 2021

AquaWateria said:
They said they are trying to bring back their older IPs, but honestly I have no faith in them. It's not like they have shown promise in their recent actions lol. Still, I guess we will have to wait and see.

If they continue to do like Street of Rage 4 or the Monster Boy games and let other make great games with their older IP, it's fine by me

DarkDetective · Jun 1, 2021

Like Chris said, Biomutant will drop like a rock in the second week. However, first week sales look good. #2 at GEO, and #4 with 20pt at COMG.

Fisico · Jun 1, 2021

MysticGon said:
Random thought but out of all the former million-selling franchises (Musou, RE, Yu-Gi-Oh, L5, etc) I think Dynasty Warriors has the best potential to reclaim it's crown if it gets attached to the right license. One Piece nearly got them there but now there are manga popping up left and right that are giving One Piece numbers a run for their money. In fact One Piece wasn't even among the top 5 bestselling series so far this year. Hopefully they can attach themselves to the next Demon Slayer.

Demon Slayer is litterally the only series that topped One Piece peak year in term of sales, others are pretty far from that, and in term of longetivity it's litteraly impossible to have any title do it before a decade at least if ever.

Musou as a genre is not gaining any popularity, Playstation home console software environment is probably never coming back to the the peak sales they had in the second half of PS3 lifetime and with digital growing stronger 1M retail is a pipedream even as a multiplatform entry.

Dooble · Jun 1, 2021

AquaWateria said:
I assume VF 5 being on PS Plus might help it. Don't know how well it will do outside that.

I'm glad that Sega is bringing it back, but man are they too damn cautious with just locking it on one platform. Have they not even considered a PC release. Still disappointing that they didn't even consider making a new game.

I think that's my problem with Sega well at least Sega Japan. Compared to their contemporaries in Japan they are doing the worse. They have all these IPs, but they do not know how to effectively use them right. Sakura Wars should have been an IP that could have come back in a big way like Fire Emblem, but they messed up big time with their boneheaded decisions. Then there is Sonic which hasn't been a strong gaming IP for years with Forces being a joke. Then you have Yakuza which seems like it's growing in the West (Don't know how big the growth is tho), but continues to decline in Japan. It's crazy to see how stronger their European section is doing compared to them.

They said they are trying to bring back their older IPs, but honestly I have no faith in them. It's not like they have shown promise in their recent actions lol. Still, I guess we will have to wait and see.

Not sure about Sega Europe doing that much better. Like SoJ they have a few strong IP that are constant For Sega Europe its Total War, Football Manager and other simulation games for SoJ its Yakuza, PSO2, Sonic (hey it still sells), Persona. Then they have have more or less off shoots here and there, like CA doing Alien Isolation and SoJ doing Sakura Wars.

PillFencer · Jun 1, 2021

Fisico said:
Demon Slayer is litterally the only series that topped One Piece peak year in term of sales, others are pretty far from that,

Tbf I see that Jujutsu Kaisen just did 24m in six months, it's already closer to One Piece's old record (38m in 2011) than any manga other than Kimetsu no Yaiba. I don't know if momentum is there to actually top it when adding the 2nd half with the anime s1 done but it should come very close at least.

Warlord · Jun 1, 2021

PillFencer said:
Tbf I see that Jujutsu Kaisen just did 24m in six months, it's already closer to One Piece's old record (38m in 2011) than any manga other than Kimetsu no Yaiba. I don't know if momentum is there to actually top it when adding the 2nd half with the anime s1 done but it should come very close at least.

With a movie coming out this year, it can definitely surpass One piece peak year. Demon slayer proved it's not impossible.
Plus One Piece might not even be in the top 5 best selling manga this year. Tokyo Revengers has exploded thanks to the anime, Kingdom also has an anime currently airing and, most importantly, Chainsaw Man is already big before even a second of the anime was shown. It's going to be even bigger than it already is.

Roy83 · Jun 1, 2021

Famitsu Sales: Week 20, 2021 (May 10 - May 16) + Famitsu Sales: Week 21, 2021 (May 17 - May 23) - New Milestones

+2.200.000
[NSW] Monster Hunter Rise # <ACT> (Capcom) {2021.03.26} (¥7.990) - 26.253 / 2.201.869 <80-100%> (-23%)

+200.000
[NSW] New Pokemon Snap <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2021.04.30} (¥5.980) - 17.593 / 211.978 <60-80%> (-62%)
[NSW] New Pokemon Snap <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2021.04.30} (¥5.980) - 9.767 / 221.745 <60-80%> (-44%)

+100.000
[NSW] Rune Factory 5 # <SLG> (Marvelous) {2021.05.20} (¥6.980) - 102.853 / NEW <60-80%>

+100.000
[NSW] Fitness Boxing 2: Rhythm & Exercise <HOB> (Imagineer) {2020.12.03} (¥5.800) - 3.418 / 101.705 <80-100%> (+62%)

Previous milestones

Monster Hunter (Famitsu numbers)

[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 [All Versions] - 2.146.467 / 4.840.930
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [All Versions] - 823.265 / 4.226.265
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 1.875.115 / 3.591.334
[3DS] Monster Hunter Generations - 1.542.104 / 2.832.833
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate [All Versions] - 1.617.949 / 2.617.803
[PS4] Monster Hunter: World [All Versions] (2.084.144) + Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition (491.620) - 1.350.412 / 2.575.764
[NSW] Monster Hunter Rise - 1.302.132 / 2.201.869
[PS4] Monster Hunter: World [All Versions] - 1.350.412 / 2.084.144

Pokémon Snap (Famitsu numbers)

[N64] Pokémon Snap - 94.846 / 495.784
[NSW] New Pokémon Snap - 147.742 / 221.745

Rune Factory (Famitsu numbers)

[3DS] Rune Factory 4 [All Versions] - 88.700 / 183.445
[NDS] Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harvest Moon - 39.973 / 145.346
[NDS] Rune Factory 2: A Fantasy Harvest Moon - 56.082 / 116.287
[NSW] Rune Factory 5 - 102.853 / NEW
[NDS] Rune Factory 3: A Fantasy Harvest Moon - 44.894 / 85.648

Fitness Boxing (Famitsu numbers)

[NSW] Fitness Boxing - x / 141.889
[NSW] Fitness Boxing 2 - 15.520 / 101.705

Top 10 - Nintendo Switch (Famitsu numbers)

[NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons - 1.880.626 / 6.778.146
[NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - 1.238.358 / 4.285.272
[NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield - 1.364.544 / 4.248.939
[NSW] Splatoon 2 - 670.955 / 3.868.221
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 280.229 / 3.844.200
[NSW] Ring Fit Adventure - 68.497 / 2.586.777
[NSW] Super Mario Odyssey - 511.625 / 2.233.038
[NSW] Monster Hunter Rise - 1.302.132 / 2.201.869 (+1)
[NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! - 345.697 / 2.191.728
[NSW] Minecraft - 11.873 / 1.960.244

fiendcode · Jun 1, 2021

Dooble said:
Not sure about Sega Europe doing that much better. Like SoJ they have a few strong IP that are constant For Sega Europe its Total War, Football Manager and other simulation games for SoJ its Yakuza, PSO2, Sonic (hey it still sells), Persona. Then they have have more or less off shoots here and there, like CA doing Alien Isolation and SoJ doing Sakura Wars.

Sega West has multiple multi-million sellers though with those IP. Sega Japan doesn't really, only Atlus has one with Persona.

Or put it this way, everything Sega Japan makes is more niche than Xenoblade.

Oregano · Jun 1, 2021

Hideki Yasuda has his monthly summary up

【月間総括】生活の一部に溶け込み，当たり前になるゲーム専用機

　今月はソニーグループと任天堂の決算について話したいが，それよりも先に「劇場版『鬼滅の刃』無限列車編」について触れたい。米国で興行収入トップ，さらに2020年公開作品として全世界でもトップとなった。ア…

jp.gamesindustry.biz

I don't think there's too much of interest really. Basically Demon Slayer is a sign of the impending Anime take over, and Switch is poised to hit DS levels in Japan and exceed PS4(and probably PS5) worldwide, also some "concern" about PS5.

Dooble · Jun 1, 2021

fiendcode said:
Sega West has multiple multi-million sellers though with those IP. Sega Japan doesn't really, only Atlus has one with Persona.

Or put it this way, everything Sega Japan makes is more niche than Xenoblade.

In terms of physical/download copies in Japan, yeah they have worsened alot. But they never had that much strengh there, I feel.

But just looking at Media Create doesn't paint the whole picture. PSO2, mobile games and arcade games have brought in alot of revenue and still do bring in profits even with a decline. With Sega West in addition, at least SoJ will still try in the foreseeable future to continue to try even when they fall.

With the Switch being such a big hit, I think a really safe bet would be porting popular arcade games on there. They have never exploited that angle that much. The DS had ports of Mushiking, Love and Berry, Sangokushi Taisen etc.
I can imagine that Border Break would have been a much bigger hit on the Switch.

But it won't happen

Tbone5189 · Jun 1, 2021

Lite_Agent said:
Oh, it's definitely going to be limited, but I'd take any rumours about delay in Europe with a huge pinch of salt. There were similar rumours for BOTW missing launch in Europe, and in the end, they proved completely groundless.

Also, $399.99 price doesn't make sense given Bloomberg's report about this model replacing the OG model. Yeah, new revisions for past Nintendo consoles saw a price increase, but $100 is a tad too much. $349 tops is my guess, though of course, I don't have the actual specs so...

Oh, you can bet there's definitely going to be some sort of outrage, but it might not necessarily be related to Resident Evil ;D

Hmm, wonder if that's when EU/NA will get the game?

Oregano said:
Hideki Yasuda has his monthly summary up

【月間総括】生活の一部に溶け込み，当たり前になるゲーム専用機

　今月はソニーグループと任天堂の決算について話したいが，それよりも先に「劇場版『鬼滅の刃』無限列車編」について触れたい。米国で興行収入トップ，さらに2020年公開作品として全世界でもトップとなった。ア…

jp.gamesindustry.biz

I don't think there's too much of interest really. Basically Demon Slayer is a sign of the impending Anime take over, and Switch is poised to hit DS levels in Japan and exceed PS4(and probably PS5) worldwide, also some "concern" about PS5.

It's not going to on DS levels it's gonna surpass DS, The sooner everyone excepts it the better. "Probably ps5" it's too early to tell but I think ps5 will surpass PS4 easily WW but can it surpass ps2?

lastly "concern" is funny, people starting to realize now about ps5 software?

Gartooth · Jun 1, 2021

I'm a little confused with Yasuda's article, is he implying that software sales in the Playstation ecosystem is down YoY worldwide for the last quarter? (I read it with Google Translate so I could be misinterpreting)

Aostia82 · Jun 1, 2021

PS5 pre-orders signs seem to point to at least an improvement of the situation in the incoming months in Japan, aren't they?

schuelma · Jun 1, 2021

Aostia82 said:
PS5 pre-orders signs seem to point to at least an improvement of the situation in the incoming months in Japan, aren't they?

based on what? comgnet?

Aostia82 · Jun 1, 2021

schuelma said:
based on what? comgnet?

Yes, I was looking at Lelouch0612 post
there are various games charting, with PS5 ratio compared to PS4 positioning decently

Oregano · Jun 1, 2021

Gartooth said:
I'm a little confused with Yasuda's article, is he implying that software sales in the Playstation ecosystem is down YoY worldwide for the last quarter? (I read it with Google Translate so I could be misinterpreting)

In think so, but I'm not sure that's even true?

Everywhere · Jun 1, 2021

So was RF5 well received?

Deleted member 52190 · Jun 1, 2021

Oregano said:
In think so, but I'm not sure that's even true?

It is not, FY 2020 is above FY 2019 WW in all quarters in both third party and first party software.

Gartooth · Jun 1, 2021

Oregano said:
In think so, but I'm not sure that's even true?

It looks to me like he's basing that "lower software YoY" talk on this chart with the slight decrease in the blue bar between Q4 2019 and Q4 2020? (If anyone here can read Japanese and knows I'm off on what this chart is about let me know. lol)

MysticGon · Jun 1, 2021

Fisico said:
Demon Slayer is litterally the only series that topped One Piece peak year in term of sales, others are pretty far from that, and in term of longetivity it's litteraly impossible to have any title do it before a decade at least if ever.

Musou as a genre is not gaining any popularity, Playstation home console software environment is probably never coming back to the the peak sales they had in the second half of PS3 lifetime and with digital growing stronger 1M retail is a pipedream even as a multiplatform entry.

Attack on Titan has stood the test of time (though I thought it wouldn't) but most series know when to bow out. I agree that One Piece's peak is hard to beat but the numbers for the bigger hits are getting more competitive.

I think the strategy of dumping all of your money into a 1-2 cour long adaptation of a series thats been around for a while and watching catalog sales explode is a good strategy. Follow it up with a movie and a game and cash in.

HaremKing · Jun 1, 2021

Aostia82 said:
Yes, I was looking at Lelouch0612 post
there are various games charting, with PS5 ratio compared to PS4 positioning decently

Just FYI, 2 of the PS5 SKUs charting on COMG are from Utawarerumono, a very, very otaku-oriented franchise that will be hilariously overestimated by COMG.

For a similiar comparison to how hilariously overestimated they will be, the Switch late ports of Sword Art Online Hollow Realization and Fatal Bullet both got over 100 points on COMG and they both debuted around 10-15k first week per Famitsu.

So using Utawarerumono Zan 2's PS5 pre-orders as meaning anything on COMG is pretty damn foolhardy.

Chris1964 · Jun 1, 2021

Gartooth said:
It looks to me like he's basing that "lower software YoY" talk on this chart with the slight decrease in the blue bar between Q4 2019 and Q4 2020? (If anyone here can read Japanese and knows I'm off on what this chart is about let me know. lol)

It's not some kind of secret, numbers were shared from Sony at FY report.

PS4 Jan-Mar 2020: 65,3m
PS4+PS5 Jan-Mar 2021: 61,4m

Gartooth · Jun 1, 2021

Chris1964 said:
It's not some kind of secret, numbers were shared from Sony at FY report.

PS4 Jan-Mar 2020: 65,3m
PS4+PS5 Jan-Mar 2021: 61,4m

Ah, thank you for clearing that up! I had completely missed that from their FY report so I was caught off guard when it was brought up in the article.

TiagoCosta · Jun 1, 2021

Meanwhile xbox series keeps selling out asap at amazon jp, but won't show on these rankings as usual.

Amazon.co.jp Best Sellers: The most popular items in Video Games

www.amazon.co.jp

Aostia82 · Jun 1, 2021

HaremKing said:
Just FYI, 2 of the PS5 SKUs charting on COMG are from Utawarerumono, a very, very otaku-oriented franchise that will be hilariously overestimated by COMG.

For a similiar comparison to how hilariously overestimated they will be, the Switch late ports of Sword Art Online Hollow Realization and Fatal Bullet both got over 100 points on COMG and they both debuted around 10-15k first week per Famitsu.

So using Utawarerumono Zan 2's PS5 pre-orders as meaning anything on COMG is pretty damn foolhardy.

I didn't know COMG was so "weird" in terms of preorders-to-sales convertion rate LOL

thanks

fiendcode · Jun 1, 2021

Dooble said:
In terms of physical/download copies in Japan, yeah they have worsened alot. But they never had that much strengh there, I feel.

But just looking at Media Create doesn't paint the whole picture. PSO2, mobile games and arcade games have brought in alot of revenue and still do bring in profits even with a decline. With Sega West in addition, at least SoJ will still try in the foreseeable future to continue to try even when they fall.

With the Switch being such a big hit, I think a really safe bet would be porting popular arcade games on there. They have never exploited that angle that much. The DS had ports of Mushiking, Love and Berry, Sangokushi Taisen etc.
I can imagine that Border Break would have been a much bigger hit on the Switch.

But it won't happen

I was speaking globally, not really just Japan. I believe Sega Japan's last multimillion seller was... Sonic Generations? Maybe Yakuza 0 or Kiwami crawled there too across all the ports/years? I just feel like it's a bit of false equivalency comparing directly to Sega West and saying both have some big franchises, when there's such a difference in sales volume between the two. Sega West is also pretty huge on mobile with Hardlight (albeit using JP properties), FM and Two Point all being big earners though, bigger than Japan is now afaik.

Within Japan I'd agree, although Sega had a real moment with Saturn and games like VF2 or Sakura Taisen being notable hits. Even stuff like Panzer Dragoon or NiGHTS was pretty big there at the time.

ILikeFeet · Jun 1, 2021

TiagoCosta said:
Meanwhile xbox series keeps selling out asap at amazon jp, but won't show on these rankings as usual.

Amazon.co.jp Best Sellers: The most popular items in Video Games

Amazon.co.jp Best Sellers: The most popular items in Video Games

www.amazon.co.jp

COUNT EVERY SALE

brutaka3 · Jun 1, 2021

Aostia82 said:
PS5 pre-orders signs seem to point to at least an improvement of the situation in the incoming months in Japan, aren't they?

COMG ratio is only useful to kinda estimate really big releases. Really low sellers chart almost everytime on their preorders and sales charts.

MysticGon · Jun 1, 2021

brutaka3 said:
COMG ratio is only useful to kinda estimate really big releases. Really low sellers chart almost everytime on their preorders and sales charts.

Preorder is probably the only way you are guaranteed to get a physical version of a PS5 game at launch. Can't imagine retail shop having a big software section for a device they probably don't even keep on the shelves.

Fularu · Jun 1, 2021

Snakeeee said:
It is not, FY 2020 is above FY 2019 WW in all quarters in both third party and first party software.

No, software was down in Q4

Deleted member 52190 · Jun 1, 2021

Fularu said:
No, software was down in Q4

Yah saw that, revenue was up but software was down, my mistake.

PillFencer · Jun 1, 2021

MysticGon said:
Preorder is probably the only way you are guaranteed to get a physical version of a PS5 game at launch. Can't imagine retail shop having a big software section for a device they probably don't even keep on the shelves.

That doesn't line up with most PS5 games having a very low sell-through % at launch and even weeks later.

Fisico · Jun 1, 2021

MysticGon said:
Attack on Titan has stood the test of time (though I thought it wouldn't) but most series know when to bow out. I agree that One Piece's peak is hard to beat but the numbers for the bigger hits are getting more competitive.

I think the strategy of dumping all of your money into a 1-2 cour long adaptation of a series thats been around for a while and watching catalog sales explode is a good strategy. Follow it up with a movie and a game and cash in.

AoT never hit One Piece peak (16M vs 32M), settled down lower than One Piece (6M vs 8-12M) and didn't last as long (<12y vs <25y)

Records are meant to be broken but the very essence of One Piece records (longevity) means it will take decades if ever for it to be broke.

Good anime help sales, One Piece Naruto & Bleach had pretty good sales and didn't went the way of one/two cour adaptation, for manga prepublished in WSJ and aiming specifically at a young audience that's probably the good way to go for most, monthly published things like AoT not really as for Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaisen I have some thoughts about it but arguable never read/watch them so I'll abstain from voicing any opinion.

TiagoCosta · Jun 1, 2021

ILikeFeet said:
COUNT EVERY SALE

For a niche seller it's a huge loss % wise. Likely enough to be above (or very close to) xbox one in the same time frame.

LostCauseUnite! · Jun 1, 2021

Caiops said:
Sorry, but i cant see a new Resident Evil subseries selling better than a mainline game with a lot of hype like Village.

Anyway, not too long until we see it, i hope Capcom shows it or someone leaks details about it

????

No one is saying it will sell better than a mainline game(WW), just better in japan than the others which set the bar really damn low. Selling more than 150-300k sounds unreasonable? Come on now.

LostCauseUnite! · Jun 1, 2021

aggrocrog said:
While I understand what you're saying and the distinction this time is important, I'm also with Zsaber on this one. The number of times over the years I've heard the enthusiast crowd state something along of the lines of "well of course Nintendo's hardware will be able to do X" drives me to dial back my expectations.

Bloomberg and Nikkei don't put out stories without verified sources, and so I'm confident they're accurate on DLSS. I'm just also keeping an open mind about and trying to keep expectations low.

FWIW, even at the most conservative and "realistic for what they want" prediction present a massive jump regardless. To have 4k by dlss you need a sizeable jump. With no way around it.

MegaXZero · Jun 1, 2021

While I'm sure Bloomberg is accurate, I'd still get a great laugh if it just ended up with a battery upgrade again. It won't happen, but damn the internet would have a super meltdown.

ILikeFeet · Jun 1, 2021

LostCauseUnite! said:
FWIW, even at the most conservative and "realistic for what they want" prediction present a massive jump regardless. To have 4k by dlss you need a sizeable jump. With no way around it.

and to think some people think performance on par with a 384 core pascal card is too much

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