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ggx2ac

Sales Heaven or Sales Hell?
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Oct 25, 2017
3,504
01./00. [PS4] Dark Souls Remastered <RPG> (From Software) {2018.05.24} (¥4.800) - 71.739 / NEW

¥344.35M

19./00. [PS4] Dark Souls Trilogy Box {Dark Souls Remastered \ Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin \ Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <Dark Souls III \ Dark Souls III: Ashes of Ariandel \ Dark Souls III: The Ringed City>} <RPG> (From Software) {2018.05.24} (¥49.800) - 3.155 / NEW

¥157.12M

Trilogy Box made 31.3% of total revenue with 4.2% of total unit sales.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So, are the Persona Dancing games dropping off the chart next week?

I think they were released too soon, P5 its still too fresh (I know it released in 2016 in Japan, but still).

Unless they just wanted to milk their most loyal fanbase and then bail.
 

ACL

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Nov 18, 2017
1,304
Outside of simultaneously launching in Japan, what could make The ps4 more appealing in Japan??

It's powerful without being overly bulky or expensive.
It has massive third party support from Japan (FF, MH, KH, persona, RE, etc.)
It has the typical first party support (Golf, GT)

Their last portable was a flop.

I honestly have no idea what Sony can do to perform better in Japan.

A real disaster considering this time around there's no excuses regarding the biggest Japan 3rd party IPs. A system with mainline Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter having trouble selling 10million units is really bad, even worse considering they practically receive full Western and Japanese 3rd Party support.
 

casiopao

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
5,044
A real disaster considering this time around there's no excuses regarding the biggest Japan 3rd party IPs. A system with mainline Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter having trouble selling 10million units is really bad, even worse considering they practically receive full Western and Japanese 3rd Party support.

Well. They can just go the Cac way and go full focus on the west and hope west will carry their numbers while hoping that Jp will like whatever they bring to their fans in Japan like MHW or to the lesser success like RE7.
 

KillerMan91

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Oct 25, 2017
4,355
Sony platforms are slower burners; PSP and PS3 started to sell better during the 3rd-4th year in the market. PS4 didn't receive any price cut but it received plenty of initiatives like Slim & Pro and bundles with free games.

I think we're at the point where we should admit that PS4 is not a desirable mainstream product that will always be limited to a very specific userbase: male, young adults.

PS3 sales during week 21 in 2011 (so its fifth may and same week):
15.987

PS4 is posting better May numbers than PS3 in its fifth year and overall also is still ahead launch aligned.
 

casiopao

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
5,044
PS3 during week 21 in 2011 (so its fifth may and same week): 15.987. PS4 is posting better May numbers than PS3 in its fifth year and overall also is still ahead launch aligned.

It depends on context? PS4 already had all its big guns blow out there. Except for sudden big phenomena like MH happen again+price cut, I had hard time seeing it hit that 10 million there as this number will not rise much as much as it will probably drop.
 

KillerMan91

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Oct 25, 2017
4,355
It depends on context? PS4 already had all its big guns blow out there. Except for sudden big phenomena like MH happen again+price cut, I had hard time seeing it hit that 10 million there as this number will not rise much as much as it will probably drop.

PS3 also had all its big guns launched by 2011 and went to sell over 10 million units.
 

Kresnik

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Oct 26, 2017
2,972
Huh, kinda lukewarm result from Persona. Atlus really screwed things with those games really thanks to the removal of story mode and DLC schedule before they'd even released.

How did Mega Man do on PS4 btw?

Persona Dancing did terrible
The Vita numbers are pathetic

Considering how Vita versions of games have collapsed compared to PS4 versions in recent months, this is actually a surprisingly even results between the platforms. Besides, the PS4 version of P3D is the lowest selling SKU of all.
 

Umibozu

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
414
Good opening for dark souls remastered.
Persona dancing games opening to lower numbers than I would've expected.
Splatoon 2 and the others on switch continuing with the legs.
Caligula dropping hard but I guess expected with its low opening.
Ps4 and switch sales increasing.

Overall an average week.
 

Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
4,572
Somewhere. I think.
Just realised that Switch will hit 1m YTD next week. That's a fair bit earlier than last year, though that's no wonder given how terrible shortages were after GW.
 
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Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
14,719
The Netherlands
Just realised that Switch will hit 1m LTD next week. That's a fair bit earlier than last year, though that's no wonder given how terrible shortages were after GW.
YTD I presume ;)

But yeah, it is trucking along with higher sales than last year, and will only move further ahead of last year when we leave the content-light H1 and enter the stacked H2.
 

Lelouch0612

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Oct 25, 2017
21,200
Week 14, 2018 :

05./01. [PS4] Super Robot Wars X # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.03.29} (¥8.600) - 11.063 / 100.322 (-88%)
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
14,719
The Netherlands
That's... that's the biggest drop I ever saw from a game on both ResetEra and the old site.

03./01. [PS3] Tales of Zestiria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.01.22} (¥8.715) - 29.487 / 370.377 (-91%)
02./01. [PS3] Tales of Xillia # <RPG> (Bandai Namco) {2011.09.08} (¥8.379) - 47.297 / 572.902 (-91%)
04./01. [PS3] Tales of Xillia 2 # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.01} (¥8.380) - 34.789 / 399.228 (-90%)
 

Vinnk

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Oct 26, 2017
1,969
Japan
Just a few things:

Switch is not supply constrained this week.
PS4 is not supply constrained this week.
Labo is still at full price.
No heat waves.

Just to pre-emptively get those out of the way.
 

OrdinaryPrime

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,042
A real disaster considering this time around there's no excuses regarding the biggest Japan 3rd party IPs. A system with mainline Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter having trouble selling 10million units is really bad, even worse considering they practically receive full Western and Japanese 3rd Party support.

It's clear that Japan doesn't care about consoles. People that treat the Switch as a regular console are disingenuous even with its poor battery life.
 

sfortunato

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Oct 25, 2017
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Italy

KillerMan91

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Oct 25, 2017
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KayMote

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Nov 5, 2017
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I have already 100%ed Zelda BotW, but damn: next week when it sells 1 Million physical copies I will put it back on and just enjoy its world for a bit again! Looking forward to it :)
 

Fisico

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Oct 27, 2017
2,106
Paris
PS3 also had all its big guns launched by 2011 and went to sell over 10 million units.

A list of >500k titles released post May 2011 on PS3

PS3 Grand Theft Auto V [All Versions] 304.752 885.168 Take-Two Interactive Japan 10/10/2013
PS3 Resident Evil 6 [All Versions] 643.802 866.735 Capcom 04/10/2012
PS3 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 627.214 828.132 Bandai Namco 01/03/2012
PS3 Dragon's Dogma [All Versions] 302.590 687.932 Capcom 24/05/2012
PS3 Tales of Xillia 512.544 670.182 Bandai Namco 08/09/2011
PS3 Yakuza 5 [All Versions] 363.717 586.889 SEGA 06/12/2012
PS3 Call of Duty: Black Ops II [All Versions] 223.344 575.373 Square Enix 22/11/2012
PS3 Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs. [All Versions] 345.053 555.160 Bandai Namco 01/12/2011

Wonder if we'll get a GTAVI this gen?
Resident Evil Remake 2 might reignite the RE sales somehow, RE8 will probably be PS5 or cross gen.
The age of musou selling that high is over and there's not an IP which is as huge as OP was back then.
I guess we can still see a new IP selling fairly decently like this in Japan
We have yet to see the next Tales, though I don't think it will reach that level of sales unless there's a huge shakeup and it's a PS4 exclusive, both seem unlinkely
Yakuza is down severely
A good Call of Duty title might not be too far from that
Gundam VS was already released and a huge failure (though it was mostly due to the game rather than the PS4)

+ KH3

Looking at it the incoming big titles line-up should not be too far from that sales wise, the problem though, as been illustrated for the past few years, is that mid tier titles are dissapearing.
 

Saint-14

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
14,477
Sony platforms are slower burners; PSP and PS3 started to sell better during the 3rd-4th year in the market. PS4 didn't receive any price cut but it received plenty of initiatives like Slim & Pro and bundles with free games.

I think we're at the point where we should admit that PS4 is not a desirable mainstream product that will always be limited to a very specific userbase: male, young adults.
You mean home consoles aren't desired in Japan anymore, that's how PS3 was and the same thing for WiiU, same thing for the next one.
 

dragonbane

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Oct 26, 2017
4,585
Germany
It's good when you only compare it to the previous QD games, but I don't remember them getting a big marketing push, so I'm not sure if that comparison is enough to weigh its level of success.
Heavy Rain got a decent push I remember back then with an exclusive cover, ads and so on. Beyond a bit less so, but not nothing either. Detroit is definitely the strongest marketed game of QD in Japan but I don't think they spend double the amount of money compared to their 2 prior games, so these sales are still great
 

KillerMan91

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Oct 25, 2017
4,355
A list of >500k titles released post May 2011 on PS3



Wonder if we'll get a GTAVI this gen?
Resident Evil Remake 2 might reignite the RE sales somehow, RE8 will probably be PS5 or cross gen.
The age of musou selling that high is over and there's not an IP which is as huge as OP was back then.
I guess we can still see a new IP selling fairly decently like this in Japan
We have yet to see the next Tales, though I don't think it will reach that level of sales unless there's a huge shakeup and it's a PS4 exclusive, both seem unlinkely
Yakuza is down severely
A good Call of Duty title might not be too far from that
Gundam VS was already released and a huge failure (though it was mostly due to the game rather than the PS4)

+ KH3

Looking at it the incoming big titles line-up should not be too far from that sales wise, the problem though, as been illustrated for the past few years, is that mid tier titles are dissapearing.

On the other hand western AAA games do better than they did last gen (outside of CoD that peaked during PS3 era, still does well though). Also hard to compare beyond 2011/2018 comparison as 2019 is complete mystery in terms of releases for PS4. Maybe we also actually get FFVII Remake? Maybe some completely out of field announcement and release during that time that does well (like One Piece Musou)? I also think that unlike PS3 that kinda got stuck with its 30k price tag for rest of its life PS4 will still get couple price cuts as it's better position globally and is not overengineered monster like PS3. Frankly I just don't see how it would miss 10 million mark in Japan.
 

test_account

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Oct 25, 2017
4,645
Huh, kinda lukewarm result from Persona. Atlus really screwed things with those games really thanks to the removal of story mode and DLC schedule before they'd even released.

How did Mega Man do on PS4 btw?
08./00. [PS4] Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 <Mega Man 7 Mega Man 8 Mega Man 9 Mega Man 10> <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.08.10} (¥2.990) - 8.537 / NEW

I dont think there was a Legacy Collection 1 physical release for PS4 in Japan.
 

Vinnk

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Oct 26, 2017
1,969
Japan
Heavy Rain got a decent push I remember back then with an exclusive cover, ads and so on. Beyond a bit less so, but not nothing either. Detroit is definitely the strongest marketed game of QD in Japan but I don't think they spend double the amount of money compared to their 2 prior games, so these sales are still great

Heavy Raid did indeed get some push. I don't remember any ads or store advertising for Beyond (I am sure there was some but nothing notable enough to stick in my mind). Detroit is in another league with ad spend. Probably not double Heavy Rain but I wouldn't be surprised if it was more than double (or even triple) that of Beyond.
 

Cantaim

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Stussining
BotW will finally cross a million units sold next week that's awesome!
Hmm the new Persona dancing games are not doing great. I'm assuming it's because of the low amount of songs present on each game. Think it was 25 songs each and you have to pay to get the full opening theme last I heard. Granted the Vita audience evaporating is also a big contributor.