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casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
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3DS and PS4 have basically reached their limits. I can't see them selling any impressive numbers at this point, even during the holidays.

3DS already hit 24 million lol. And Nintendo literally had put all the plug from supporting 3DS there. I don't see how far it can there. PS4 on the other hand is not a popular item in JP. it already had literally 3 biggest IP in Japan, DQ,FF and MH pushing the platform. And 10 million still seems very far far away.
 
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Chris1964

Chris1964

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Oct 25, 2017
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PS4 summer might be worse than expected. If it didn't cross 20k this week it won't have many other chances.
 

Fukuzatsu

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Oct 25, 2017
1,321
Detroit may well double the LTD of both Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls, which sold between 40k and 50k each (total).
Just goes to show a better cover on your game box can go a long way, am I right?
 

silpheed-mcd

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Oct 27, 2017
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SWITCH GAMES, Ranking Sales, Japan, 2018 (May 21 - May 27)

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01 - Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} - 2.336.522
02 - Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) (2017.10.27) - 1.730.169
03 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) (2017.04.28) - 1.551.492
04 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) (2017.03.03) - 997.967
05 - Kirby Star Allies (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} - 509.308
05 - 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 445.228
07 - ARMS (Nintendo) (2017.06.16) – 406.645
08 - Pokken Tournament DX (Pokemon Co.) (2017.09.22) - 262.871
09 - Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) (2017.08.25) - 214.492
10 - Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Nintendo) (2017.12.01) - 181.254
11 - Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 01: Variety Kit (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} - 174.120 (+1)
12 - Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle (Nintendo) {2018.01.18} - 167.333
13 - Super Bomberman R (Konami) (2017.03.03) – 145.029
14 - Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Nintendo) {2018.05.03} - 143.037 (+1)
15 - Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.09.07) – 141.100
16 - The Snack World: TreJarers Gold (Level 5) {2018.04.12} - 85.677
17 - FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) (2017.09.29) - 78.169
18 - Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) (2017.03.03) – 75.309
19 - Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) (2017.03.03) - 71.742
20 - Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.28) – 68.263
21 - Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) (2017.06.01) – 51.973
22 - Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park e Youkoso (Nippon Columbia) (2017.12.07) - 47.989
23 - Snipperclips Plus (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} - 47.124
24 - Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 02: Robot Kit (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} - 44.911
25 - Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.22} - 40.408
26 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) (2017.05.26) – 39.316
27 - Dragon Quest Builders (Square Enix) {2018.03.01} - 35.116
28 - Attack on Titan 2 (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} - 30.194
29 - Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo) {2018.02.17} - 30.097 (11.694 Climax Edition)
30 - Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) (2017.09.21) - 27.204
31 - Dragon Quest X: 5000-nen no Harukanaru Kokyou e Online (Square Enix) (2017.11.16) - 27.174
32 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) (2017.04.20) - 25.563
33 - One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 - Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.21} - 23.014
34 - Disgaea 5 Complete (Nippon Ichi Software) {2017.03.03} - 20.514
35 - Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) (2017.07.20) - 20.084
36 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda Softworks) {2018.02.01} - 19.547
37 - I am Setsuna (Square Enix) {2017.03.03} - 17.933
38 - LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.06.29) - 17.025
39 - SD Gundam G Generation: Genesis for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.04.26} - 16,168
40 - PriPara All Idol Perfect Stage! (Takara Tomy) {2018.03.22} - 12.426
41 - One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.08.24) - 12.223
42 - Bayonetta - Climax Edition (Nintendo) {2018.02.17} - 11.694
43 - Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.07.20) - 11.229
44 - Lost Sphear (Square Enix) (2017.10.12) - 11.097
45 - Mega Man Legacy Collection 1+2 <Mega Man Legacy Collection - 8.093 (NEW)
46 - Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Legacy for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.04.26} - 6.682
47 - Resident Evil: Revelations Collection (Capcom) (2017.11.30) - 6.540
48 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Taishi (Koei Tecmo) (2017.11.30) - 5.636
49 - Sonic Forces (Sega) (2017.11.09) - 4.686
50 - Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo) (2017.08.31) - 4.463
51 - Winning Post 8 2018 (Koei Tecmo) {2018.03.15} - 3.745
52 - Portal Knights (Spike Chunsoft) {2018.04.19} - 3.226
53 - Neo Atlas 1469 (Artdink) {2018.04.19} - 3.176
54 - NBA 2K18 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (2017.10.17) - 2.689
55 - Champion Jockey Special (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.14) - 2.626
56 - Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence with Power-Up Kit (Koei Tecmo) {2017.03.03} - 1.400


Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 01: Variety Kit + Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 02: Robot Kit: 219.031


SWITCH GAMES, Ranking Sales, Japan, 2018 (May 14 - May 20)
https://www.resetera.com/threads/me...-2018-may-14-may-20.44339/page-7#post-8326722
 

Zedark

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,719
The Netherlands
65k isn't a bad number for a multi platform game to sell. But I do wonder if it could break 90k with a Switch version.

Nice numbers for Switch! Is the next 3-4 weeks the slowest of the year?
The week before last is usually the single slower week of the year. Next weeks should be similar to this week until Mario Tennis and Minecraft release
 

hiska-kun

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Oct 26, 2017
3,410
Switch vs Wii

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|    |    Nintendo Wii   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  | 

|    |    (2006/12/02)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              | 

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 

|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - Wii  | 

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

| 63 |   81.737|5.240.879|   31.720|4.230.855|    -1.010.024|

| 64 |   78.583|5.319.462|   33.125|4.263.980|    -1.055.482|

| 65 |   63.504|5.382.966|   36.590|4.300.570|    -1.082.396|

| 66 |   64.535|5.447.501|         |         |              |

| 67 |   57.068|5.504.569|         |         |              |

| 68 |   55.845|5.560.414|         |         |              |

| 69 |   62.404|5.622.818|         |         |              |

| 70 |   48.785|5.671.603|         |         |              |

| 71 |   44.618|5.716.221|         |         |              |

| 72 |   46.296|5.762.516|         |         |              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|


PS4 vs PS3

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|    |   PlayStation 3   |   PlayStation 4   |  Difference  | 

|    |    (2006/11/11)   |    (2014/02/22)   |              | 

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 

|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   PS4 - PS3  | 

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

| 221|   25.149|6.229.233|   17.688|6.738.758|       509.525|

| 222|   23.846|6.253.079|   16.940|6.755.698|       502.619|

| 223|   26.766|6.279.845|   17.482|6.773.180|       493.335|

| 224|   25.242|6.305.087|         |         |              |

| 225|   23.654|6.328.741|         |         |              |

| 226|   25.918|6.354.659|         |         |              |

| 227|   32.406|6.387.065|         |         |              |

| 228|   26.623|6.413.688|         |         |              |

| 229|   28.973|6.442.661|         |         |              |

| 230|   27.453|6.470.114|         |         |              |

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Kirby Star Allies vs Kirby Triple Deluxe

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|    |Kirby Triple Deluxe| Kirby Star Allies |  Difference  | 

|    | [3DS] (2014/01/11)| [NSW] (2018/03/16)|              | 

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 

|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   KSA – KTD  | 

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|  9 |   14.108|  489.610|    9.414|  492.230|         2.620|

| 10 |   12.225|  501.835|    8.392|  500.622|        -1.213|

| 11 |   14.060|  515.895|    8.686|  509.308|        -6.587|

| 12 |   14.564|  530.439|         |         |              |

| 13 |    9.914|  540.373|         |         |              |

| 14 |    6.987|  547.360|         |         |              |

| 15 |    6.218|  553.578|         |         |              |

| 16 |    6.326|  559.903|         |         |              |

| 17 |   10.046|  569.949|         |         |              |

| 18 |   10.056|  580.005|         |         |              |

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Hardware Sales YTD vs Last Year YTD (Until September 3rd)

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mclem

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Oct 25, 2017
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03./00. [PS4] Persona Dancing: All-Star Triple Pack <Persona 3: Dancing Moon Night \ Persona 4: Dancing All Night \ Persona 5: Dancing Star Night> <ACT> (Atlus) {2018.05.24} (¥16.880) - 27.240 / NEW
04./00. [PSV] Persona Dancing: Deluxe Twin Plus {Persona 3: Dancing Moon Night \ Persona 4: Dancing All Night \ Persona 5: Dancing Star Night} <ACT> (Atlus) {2018.05.24} (¥15.780) - 21.579 / NEW

It seems a little odd that the Vita compilation and the PS4 compilation have different names; I assume the "Plus" in the Vita one is representing the inclusion of the (in the case of the Vita) already-released P4:DAN?

09./00. [NSW] Mega Man Legacy Collection 1+2 <Mega Man Legacy Collection <Mega Man \ Mega Man 2 \ Mega Man 3 \ Mega Man 4 \ Mega Man 5 \ Mega Man 6> \ Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 <Mega Man 7 \ Mega Man 8 \ Mega Man 9 \ Mega Man 10>> <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.05.24} (¥4.990) - 8.093 / NEW

Holy moly that's a mouthful. Someone release a new Action 52 to see if that can crash their database!

13./08. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 6.099 / 997.967 (+7%)


Get the bunting out for next week, folks.
 

Vinnk

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Oct 26, 2017
1,969
Japan
Ouch PS4. I didn't expect it to beat the Switch this week but I expected it to get close with all those releases. Now it doesn't look likely that it will beat the Switch any week this year barring a price drop or Kingdom Hearts 3.

I like my Switch plenty but competition is very important and I want to PS4 to do well. I don't want every Japanese 3rd party to chase the Western market exclusively.
 

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Predictions for Dark Souls Remastered Switch first week?
20K. Dark Souls is a PS IP in Japan and I don't think the fans want it portable. Releasing later killed thousands of possible sales, imo.

At this rate yeah it's hard to imagine PS4 reaching 10m in Japan, especially if PS5 is coming out in 2 years.

Not that Sony cares so much as long as PS4 keeps selling everywhere else.
I agree. They probably don't care much at all.
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
41,037
Still bitter about Dark Souls being delayed on Switch... that would've been a fun comparison (plus I could be playing it right now).

Anyway, BotW at 1M physical next week. Next milestone will be combined sales surpassing OoT, right? That should be happening very soon.
 

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Is that Persona Dancing result healthy? It seems to have underperformed.

Also, remember when there were people insisting that Switch would not outsell PS4 in Japan?
 

casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
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Just noticed that combined Persona number is below 70k.....while Persona 4Dancing on VITA did 100k......... that Sega IP decline virus lol. Atlus better try to reinvent themselves more there lol. As P5 does not seems to had the same pull like P4 did.

Is that Persona Dancing result healthy? It seems to have underperformed.

Also, remember when there were people insisting that Switch would not outsell PS4 in Japan?

There.^_^
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Interested in how Yokai Watch turns out. 4 is announced this year and will likely face direct competition with Let's Go. Thankfully it's skewing older which might differentiate it a bit.
Still no screenshots or video though, right?
 

casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
5,044
Interested in how Yokai Watch turns out. 4 is announced this year and will likely face direct competition with Let's Go. Thankfully it's skewing older which might differentiate it a bit.
Still no screenshots or video though, right?

While it may not hit out of the park like the old YW series. I can see its audience overlap there. YW audience after buying YW will get Pokemon or Pokemon audience after Lets Go will try YW.^_^
 

Psrock1

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's a good thing the PS4 has not needed Japan much this generation because the hardware numbers are pretty bad.
 

mclem

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sony would hope that they are able to find another MH phenomena for PS4 HW number in JP there.

I wonder if we'd see a G version, because my gut says that that really ought to be handled as DLC on a platform such as the PS4... but it's Capcom, so who knows quite what they've got up their sleeves.
 

mrmickfran

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
26,665
Gongaga
65k isn't a bad number for a multi platform game to sell. But I do wonder if it could break 90k with a Switch version.
I think it underperformed considerably. The Vita consumer base is much higher now than when P4 Dancing released. Not to mention the now added PS4 consumer base.

I think combined skus should've been 150k minimum.
 

FormatCompatible

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Oct 25, 2017
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Damn, had no idea there were that many versions of Persona Dancing o_O
Yep, it's already ridiculous as it is and then you factor in how much dlc both games have to see just how awful this whole release is. A real shame because even with it's flaws I still enjoyed my time with P4D, this one I'm in no rush to get.
 
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FluxWaveZ

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Oct 25, 2017
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that Sega IP decline virus lol. Atlus better try to reinvent themselves more there lol. As P5 does not seems to had the same pull like P4 did.
The games have less content value than P4D, no story mode (which is significant for the fans who want more of that kind of content), and the novelty aspect of a Persona rhythm game is gone. This is not an indication of Persona 5's IP potential.
 

Mr Swine

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Oct 26, 2017
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Interested in how Yokai Watch turns out. 4 is announced this year and will likely face direct competition with Let's Go. Thankfully it's skewing older which might differentiate it a bit.
Still no screenshots or video though, right?

If it's released before or after Pokemon I think it will do decently, probably 250-400k before the year ends
 

casiopao

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Oct 28, 2017
5,044
I wonder if we'd see a G version, because my gut says that that really ought to be handled as DLC on a platform such as the PS4... but it's Capcom, so who knows quite what they've got up their sleeves.

I am not sure how everyone feels like Cac won't release G version there. They made Ultimate Marvel vs Cacpcom without care. They will do G version if that will make them money lol.

The games have less content value than P4D, no story mode (which is significant for the fans who want more of that kind of content), and the novelty aspect of a Persona rhythm game is gone. This is not an indication of Persona 5's IP potential.

Still P5 is much newer. It should still had that newly fresh title pull. But it does not. It will be interesting to see how far can P5 IP carry Atlus here as P4 is totally a gigantic golden goose for them for such a long time.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think 3DS has one more impressive holiday left in it.
Don't think so myself. According to insiders (Benji and Aquamarine), 3ds sales are almost exclusively driven by major software, and 3ds isn't getting any of that this year (last year it got pushed by USUM). Combine that with a general decline outside the holidays, and I feel like 3ds will be very low during the holidays as well.
 

Zalman

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Oct 25, 2017
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Persona 4 Dancing All Night had the superior opening theme. That's why it sold more.