They have 5 games way bigger than Fire Emblem this year after e3. Why would they choose Fire Emblem?
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Media Create Sales: Week 21, 2019 (May 20 - May 26)
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Why does it have to release with a big new game?
Hell why does it have to release with any game?
3DS XL had Mario Bros., 2DS had Pokémon, New 3DS had Monster Hunter/Majora, New 2DS XL had Dragon Quest. Why? Simply because it helps both HW and SW sales.
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Also, if it launches in July with Fire Emblem, the announcement that would happen the end of June or beginning of July would kill any hardware momentum generated by Mario Maker 2 launch. That's a bad strategy.
That's why some of us think that YW4 was pushed back a few weeks, because the announcement might happen around the original release in early June.
That's why some of us think that YW4 was pushed back a few weeks, because the announcement might happen around the original release in early June.
Very good point. Right now they have nothing to lose, last big game was Yoshi 2 months ago and June sales are gonna be low before SMM2 anyway.
Ah that makes a ton of sense, yeah.
So June does seem like the smartest time to launch, otherwise you will wind up hurting the sales of something later on this year. You can't really hurt momentum you don't have (which is the situation right now).
If it's ready to go in July they might as well release it with their biggest title of the summer a few weeks earlier.
The issue with timing is that the announcement of such a device would cause sales to slow down and affect sales of software.
The rest of the year will be packed with big titles so they'll be affected if it's not in June.
Announcing it in the next week an a half and releasing it on June 28th would not hurt software.
Sonic used to sell pretty decently in Japan during the late 90s/early 2000s. I remember SA1 hitting 500k or something. But ever since the PS3 era , I dont think any title has even sold like 50k lifetime. Wouldn't be surprised if Team Sonic Racing isn't even in the Top 30.
Only Adventure for Dreamcast sold more than 400K and that was a launch game. Second best selling is the Advance one with like 200k. It was never a big franchise, but yeah had a big downfall.
Yea it used to sell 100k on Average. Now its like 10k , thats a pretty big drop. Especially since he is the mascot of a big publisher like Sega.
Didn't people say they use Arle more than Sonic as a mascot in Japan or something? Can't confirm it myself.
Their big face in the console space is Yakuza tho.
I just googled Sega Arcade Japan , and see Sonic in most Sega spaces. Its just weird , you would think he would sell more than 10k just by having a recognizable face.
Outside of SA1. Which is the best selling title.
Sonic,1,2,3,Advance1,Advance2,SA2,SA2B all sold roughly near the 200k range. After that era , the others could barely hit 50k.
Sonic is 5,7k combined.
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Mary Skelter 2 for Switch launches in Japan on August 22nd for retail and digitally with the latter being cheaper.
Any predictions on how this will do compared to the PS4 version?
With how awful Capcom's ports have been in terms of pricing, gimped physical releases (in the West especially) or no physical releases at all, Dragons Dogma really stands out by being fairly priced and available physically in the West at a reasonable price. I wonder how DD managed to avoid the Capcom pitfalls when all the other releases seem to follow a pretty obvious half-hearted pattern from them on Switch
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Famitsu Sales: Week 21, 2019 (May 20 - May 26)
01./02. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 8.662 / 3.094.161 <80-100%> (+2%)
02./04. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 7.451 / 790.783 <80-100%> (+7%)
03./03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 7.193 / 2.310.186 <80-100%> (-1%)
04./08. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 5.360 / 3.073.071 <80-100%> (+18%)
05./07. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 4.658 / 621.135 <80-100%> (-8%)
06./06. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980) - 4.647 / 1.535.394 <80-100%> (-22%)
07./05. [PS4] Days Gone <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.04.26} (¥6.900) - 4.549 / 171.008 <80-100%> (-28%)
08./00. [NSW] Resident Evil: Origins Collection <Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster \ Resident Evil HD Remaster> <ADV> (Capcom) {2019.05.23} (¥5.500) - 4.081 / NEW <20-40%>
09./09. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 4.076 / 1.323.540 <80-100%> (-10%)
10./00. [PS4] Assassin's Creed III Remastered <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.05.23} (¥4.800) - 3.767 / NEW <20-40%>
11./01. [PS4] Ys: Memories of Celceta - Kai <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2019.05.16} (¥3.980) - 3.428 / 17.323 <60-80%> (-75%)
12./10. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} (¥5.980) - 3.348 / 138.160 <80-100%> (-18%)
13./00. [NSW] Team Sonic Racing <RCE> (Sega) {2019.05.21} (¥5.990) - 3.339 / NEW <40-60%>
14./11. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 3.314 / 1.032.029 <80-100%> (-7%)
15./00. [NSW] Assassin's Creed III Remastered <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.05.23} (¥4.800) - 2.973 / NEW <40-60%>
16./00. [PS4] Team Sonic Racing <RCE> (Sega) {2019.05.21} (¥5.990) - 2.432 / NEW <40-60%>
17./13. [NSW] Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.04.04} (¥6.800) - 2.069 / 117.295 <80-100%> (-14%)
18./12. [PS4] Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice <ADV> (From Software) {2019.03.22} (¥7.600) - 2.029 / 254.410 <80-100%> (-28%)
19./14. [NSW] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.04.25} (¥5.800) - 1.858 / 33.475 <60-80%> (-4%)
20./15. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800) - 1.755 / 831.333 <80-100%> (-8%)
21./16. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} (¥6.100) - 1.692 / 336.846 <80-100%> (+1%)
22./21. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [Best Price] # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.08.02} (¥4.990) - 1.553 / 50.404 <80-100%> (+13%)
23./20. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} (¥5.980) - 1.526 / 724.804 <80-100%> (+10%)
24./19. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 1.524 / 1.971.901 <80-100%> (+1%)
25./18. [NSW] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster <Final Fantasy X \ Final Fantasy X-2> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.04.11} (¥6.800) - 1.478 / 35.027 <80-100%> (-5%)
26./24. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 1.341 / 2.478.069 <80-100%> (+5%)
27./17. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 04: VR Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2019.04.12} (¥7.980) - 1.337 / 57.972 <60-80%> (-19%)
28./25. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege - Deluxe Edition <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.04.11} (¥3.600) - 1.165 / 13.425 <60-80%> (+4%)
29./27. [PS4] NieR: Automata - Game of the YoRHa Edition <NieR: Automata \ NieR: Automata - 3C3C1D119440927> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.02.21} (¥4.800) - 1.079 / 40.317 <80-100%> (+0%)
30./26. [NSW] Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen # <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.04.25} (¥3.990) - 1.032 / 16.978 <60-80%> (-7%)
Top 30
NSW - 20
PS4 - 9
3DS - 1
01./02. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 8.662 / 3.094.161 <80-100%> (+2%)
02./04. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 7.451 / 790.783 <80-100%> (+7%)
03./03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 7.193 / 2.310.186 <80-100%> (-1%)
04./08. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 5.360 / 3.073.071 <80-100%> (+18%)
05./07. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 4.658 / 621.135 <80-100%> (-8%)
06./06. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980) - 4.647 / 1.535.394 <80-100%> (-22%)
07./05. [PS4] Days Gone <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.04.26} (¥6.900) - 4.549 / 171.008 <80-100%> (-28%)
08./00. [NSW] Resident Evil: Origins Collection <Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster \ Resident Evil HD Remaster> <ADV> (Capcom) {2019.05.23} (¥5.500) - 4.081 / NEW <20-40%>
09./09. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 4.076 / 1.323.540 <80-100%> (-10%)
10./00. [PS4] Assassin's Creed III Remastered <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.05.23} (¥4.800) - 3.767 / NEW <20-40%>
11./01. [PS4] Ys: Memories of Celceta - Kai <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2019.05.16} (¥3.980) - 3.428 / 17.323 <60-80%> (-75%)
12./10. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} (¥5.980) - 3.348 / 138.160 <80-100%> (-18%)
13./00. [NSW] Team Sonic Racing <RCE> (Sega) {2019.05.21} (¥5.990) - 3.339 / NEW <40-60%>
14./11. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 3.314 / 1.032.029 <80-100%> (-7%)
15./00. [NSW] Assassin's Creed III Remastered <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.05.23} (¥4.800) - 2.973 / NEW <40-60%>
16./00. [PS4] Team Sonic Racing <RCE> (Sega) {2019.05.21} (¥5.990) - 2.432 / NEW <40-60%>
17./13. [NSW] Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.04.04} (¥6.800) - 2.069 / 117.295 <80-100%> (-14%)
18./12. [PS4] Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice <ADV> (From Software) {2019.03.22} (¥7.600) - 2.029 / 254.410 <80-100%> (-28%)
19./14. [NSW] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.04.25} (¥5.800) - 1.858 / 33.475 <60-80%> (-4%)
20./15. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800) - 1.755 / 831.333 <80-100%> (-8%)
21./16. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} (¥6.100) - 1.692 / 336.846 <80-100%> (+1%)
22./21. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [Best Price] # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.08.02} (¥4.990) - 1.553 / 50.404 <80-100%> (+13%)
23./20. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} (¥5.980) - 1.526 / 724.804 <80-100%> (+10%)
24./19. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 1.524 / 1.971.901 <80-100%> (+1%)
25./18. [NSW] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster <Final Fantasy X \ Final Fantasy X-2> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.04.11} (¥6.800) - 1.478 / 35.027 <80-100%> (-5%)
26./24. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 1.341 / 2.478.069 <80-100%> (+5%)
27./17. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 04: VR Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2019.04.12} (¥7.980) - 1.337 / 57.972 <60-80%> (-19%)
28./25. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege - Deluxe Edition <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2019.04.11} (¥3.600) - 1.165 / 13.425 <60-80%> (+4%)
29./27. [PS4] NieR: Automata - Game of the YoRHa Edition <NieR: Automata \ NieR: Automata - 3C3C1D119440927> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.02.21} (¥4.800) - 1.079 / 40.317 <80-100%> (+0%)
30./26. [NSW] Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen # <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.04.25} (¥3.990) - 1.032 / 16.978 <60-80%> (-7%)
Top 30
NSW - 20
PS4 - 9
3DS - 1
No, this week. Hell, I'd say today. They might want to keep it under wrap as long as possible, but 3 weeks from announcement to launch is just too short for a worldwide launch. 4 weeks is already pushing it.
Nikkei reported that Nintendo had shut down their QoL department. And no, Pokémon Sleep isn't their QoL project, though it most definitely reuses whatever was left of it before it was scrapped.
Not quite. The various reports re: Switch models went like this:
- January: Nikkei reports that Nintendo is planning to release new Switch model (cheaper, more portable) this FY (https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO4075094031012019TJ1000/)
- March: WSJ reports that 2 Switch models are in the works, one targeted at avid gamers with enhanced features, and the cheaper model mentioned by Nikkei and presented as 3DS successor (but no release window provided) (https://www.wsj.com/articles/ninten...shareToken=sta6e3cf4c3f1f458b9d9cb7a6a4e4a2be)
- April: Nikkei reports the smaller model is slated for Fall release, contradicting WSJ (https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO43574890Q9A410C1000000/), and also mentions a "next-gen" model that is certainly not ready for release (not sure if it's the same as the "avid gamers" model mentioned by WSJ)
That's right but they also claimed a sleep monitoring device was canceled.
Maybe, but we'll never know without further clarification from Nintendo. All we know is Nikkei claimed a QoL product with sleep monitoring functions developed by Nintendo was cancelled while a QoL product with sleep monitoring functions was announced by Nintendo two days ago. Is it the same product they'd been talking for years? We just can't know yet I believe.
Pokemon Sleep is absolutely a retooled version of Nintendo's cancelled QoL device. This isn't even the first time Nintendo has done this. The Walk With Me/Personal Walking Trainer monitor was retooled into the Pokewalker, which itself was then later retooled into the Wii Fit Meter.
This is standard practice for Nintendo.
This is standard practice for Nintendo.
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Huh, looks like Smash is the next game to get VR support.
What a weird idea to give this a vr mode before Mario kart...
Nintendo made the device. They were even rolled out to talk about it in the conference.
It's unlikely that Nintendo was working on a sleep monitoring system and that there was no relation to the sleep monitoring system they made for Pokémon.
Probably figured that it wouldn't sell by itself and that Pokémon is probably the best way to handle it
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So now we have persona 5R, Death Stranding and monster Hunter expansion. The ps4 line up is coming together nicely.
It should be better than last year but if MH expansion is making no big waves at retail, there will be a long gap between now and the next notable releases (coming around November).
It doesn't have to do well at retail. Digital is more profitable for Sony and Capcom so it's better if it performs well there.
Then you are selling to your existing userbase which would not move hardware significantly
I wasn't expecting it to. The ps4 is late in it's life I think revenue from the existing user base would be the priority.
That I did, thanks. Wonder what the deal was with their autumn story, then.
That's what happens when every other game ranges from okay to a hot mess.
Being the mascot doesnt save you from having garbage sales when you've shown time and again to produce AAA garbage that's not even 'so bad its fun' category.
Nintendo First-Party Japan Retail Sales Famitsu
01. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} 3.094.161
02. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} 3.073.071
03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} 2.310.186
04. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} 1.971.901
05. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} 1.535.394
06. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} 1.323.540
07. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} 1.032.029
08. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} 724.804
09. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} 621.135
10. [NSW] 1 2 Switch <VAR> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} 449.437
11. [NSW] Arms <FIG> (Nintendo) {2017.06.07} 425.881
12. [NSW] Mario Tennis Aces <SPO> (Nintendo) {2018.06.22} 414.854
13. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX <FIG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22) 301.429
14. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 01: Variety Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} 247.344
15. [NSW] Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.05} 227.296
16. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2<RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} 221.234
17. [NSW] Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker <PUZ> (Nintendo) {2018.07.13} 163.390
18. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} 138.160
19. [NSW] Snipperclips: Cut It Out Together! <PUZ> (Nintendo) {2017.03.16} 91.391
20. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 04: VR Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2019.04.12} 57.972
21. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 02: Robot Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} 56.307
22. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 03: Vehicle Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2018.09.14} 49.175
23. [NSW] Bayonetta 1 + 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.05.17} 38.266
24. [NSW] Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido <PUZ> (Nintendo) {2018.06.07} 9.782
01. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} 3.094.161
02. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} 3.073.071
03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} 2.310.186
04. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} 1.971.901
05. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} 1.535.394
06. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} 1.323.540
07. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} 1.032.029
08. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} 724.804
09. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} 621.135
10. [NSW] 1 2 Switch <VAR> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} 449.437
11. [NSW] Arms <FIG> (Nintendo) {2017.06.07} 425.881
12. [NSW] Mario Tennis Aces <SPO> (Nintendo) {2018.06.22} 414.854
13. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX <FIG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22) 301.429
14. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 01: Variety Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} 247.344
15. [NSW] Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.05} 227.296
16. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2<RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} 221.234
17. [NSW] Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker <PUZ> (Nintendo) {2018.07.13} 163.390
18. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} 138.160
19. [NSW] Snipperclips: Cut It Out Together! <PUZ> (Nintendo) {2017.03.16} 91.391
20. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 04: VR Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2019.04.12} 57.972
21. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 02: Robot Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} 56.307
22. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 03: Vehicle Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2018.09.14} 49.175
23. [NSW] Bayonetta 1 + 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.05.17} 38.266
24. [NSW] Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido <PUZ> (Nintendo) {2018.06.07} 9.782
This isn't the issue when Sonic Mania sold worse than the shitty 3D ones. If quality was the issue Transformed,Generations,Mania should have at least sold somewhat better than something like Forces.
I get that the varying quality of titles has led to a drop in sales everywhere. But Japan seems to have a more steep drop than everywhere else. I wonder if Sega doesn't care about marketing the game at all.
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It's the boy who cried wolf problem. Even if some games are better, the games have been so consistently bad that they can't get customers to believe the good ones are worth the admission. Japan doesn't really rely on reviews, but word of mouth when it comes to selling things. Sonic is known, far more than other mascots in his same sales league, but he has bad word of mouth and is the butt of jokes. Knowledge of his existence cannot translate to sales because people are also aware that his quality is not there. That's how the only way to sell Sonic is when he is in a game with Mario in it.