You need to buy another full price copy, my younger self still hurt from that.
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Media Create Sales: Week 23, 2018 (Jun 04 - Jun 10)
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You need to buy another full price copy, my younger self still hurt from that.
That doesn't matter though. It's not so much about whether the expansion itself is a success on a whole, and more about gauging whether it was worth positioning it as a stand alone retail release at 40 bucks. The retail sales will determine that.
So that would be about 1/4 conversion rate from the retail sales of the original game to retail expansion?
not really, unless you expect lots of people that bough the season pass to double dip just to get a box as they already know they are getting the content, sooner and by a cheaper overall price
Let me get this straight. You think because some people have asked stupid questions before the entire company isn't priced correctly on the stock market?
I'm on the fence about buying it or buying the DLC. I can get the DLC for much cheaper, and since the retail comes with a one time use code for the DLC, even though it is on the cart the resale for it will be bad. Then again it comes in a case and I can put it on new video game shelf I just ordered. So I think I will flip a coin soon and decide. I think it it doesn't sell well as retail that is no real indication of how well it did sell.
I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that Nintendo deciding to do a retail release for this and make it a stand alone release was a mistake that has no appeal to any audience? Confusing.
wont be the 1st time they release a DLC either stand alone or already mixed with the OG, didnt they did it for Super Luigi U too?
I'm confused with what you're trying to say. I'm merely saying that it is worth examining whether a retail release itself is successful or not. You seem to be saying that it doesn't matter and we shouldn't bother considering it at all.
I only know about me, but I am double dipping. I will always support physical media as a way of preserving my hobby. Rebought a lot of games I already owned on Switch and Vita as Limited Run editions.
But yeah.. I might be the exception to the rule.
im saying using the physical release as a measure of the success of GC is dumb cause many people already will get the game from the Season Pass.
Like, do you even read what you reply to? Serious question. Or do you just imagine what you think people are saying and then reply to that?
What are people arguing exactly? Judging Switch outlook by means of traditional parameters is wrong. No one cares about E3 in the mainstream. Switch is a hot product and has the right games. Hardcore players will always have a second platform to play with. 2019 will have mainline Pokémon and likely Animal Crossing.
Hard to say because it is expected many people will buy the DLC on the eShop. If Nintendo advertise the prequel they might attract some new customers though so 50-70k seems as good prediction.
Hard to say because it is expected many people will buy the DLC on the eShop. If Nintendo advertise the prequel they might attract some new customers though so 50-70k seems as good prediction.
How would you measure if a physical release itself is successful ?
Revenue vs price it cost to make the boxes ?
whatever number CG sells can not be called "success" or "Bomba" cause we dont know what is being subtracted of double dipped from the Season Pass
Their stock drops and rises sometimes by huge amounts all the time, and sometimes for no reason, people who knows all about stocks tell us time and time again to stop caring about them because Nintendo sure doesn't, its gonna skyrocket by the time Pokemon comes out anyways
Or this maybe the corr Pokemon audience reaction of "Eh the next Pokemon is a aimed at the Go audience, not waiting for that better just buy this to keep me entertained".
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Pretty sure that most people upset by Lets go already bought USUM at launch.
That seems incredibly difficult to assess without knowing retail production costs, minimum print run and digital sales of the season pass.
I wonder how many are going to buy the standalone DLC without owning the main-game. I know I am but I am probably in the minority.
I'm actually far more interested in how successful the release is at being a stand alone product.
That's exactly it though. The entire purpose of having this retail release to begin with, is because they think there is a market for those who might be interested in Xenoblade 2 but haven't bought the game itself yet for whatever reason. This is a smaller and cheaper product that they can try as a new game, that also acts as a Trojan Horse for selling more XB2 if they like it. Is there an actual market for this? That's what we should be looking at with regards to the physical release. Not double-dippers.
I'm more interested in the base xb2 since the main purpose of Torna Golden country is to maintain the legs of the based game
The way I see it, their stock dropped by 16% (I'll take your word for it, haven't checked if it still this way or maybe worse :-)) most probably because some people became afraid that Nintendo won't reach their 20 million FY target (or maybe they were afraid that people will be afraid and so preempted it...). So what it will take for it to recover is whatever will make more people believe again that they will reach that target.
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That is an interesting point. If that is the purpose of retail Torna, its success must also be measured on the effect it has on Xenoblade 2 sales. I also don't know how Nintendo's communication has been in Japan for the standalone release but the ERA thread was full of confused people who didn't really get what this was supposed to be. The European boxart looks like this is just a cheap expansion rather than how you'd brand a standalone release.
I can't think of any similar releases to compare it to. The closest (and still not very close) is Lost Legacy which did like a fifth of UC4's sales in Japan. So, uh, 20k FW?
Oh Thank God for BeyBlade in October we are saved.
I'm guessing it's rated CERO : Z for the cursing, nudity and blood.
im surprised with the expectations here for the XC2 DLC. I was anticipating like 10-20k, the physical edition being bought mostly by collectors and enthusiasts - with probably around 50k downloads online. 70k out of ~200k overall seems like a very positive outcome for dlc, let alone for the physical release alone.
the mixed signal parts was that the 40$ is not GC alone but also includes the DLC (Challenge Mode, Poppy Buster, ETC... , BUT to play said DLC you need X2 OG, not GC)
I'll probably do that too. I don't know how that could be, but the things I've seen from this caught my attention more than the full game.
There are no mixed signals in Japan. The language used to describe the product from the day it was announced is extremely clear and detailed.
GC is pretty much just more of Xenoblade 2, so I don't think there are many who have not been interested by XBC2 suddenly become interested in GC.
Is there any drastic changes in GC? The characters are pretty much the same (minus 1 from what we know so far) and the battle system is exactly the same.
Maybe in Japan the sales will be decent (maybe 20-30% XBC2 sales?), since the country is still not as into digital as west, but I'm expecting niche sales for GC elsewhere.
Is there any drastic changes in GC? The characters are pretty much the same (minus 1 from what we know so far) and the battle system is exactly the same.
Maybe in Japan the sales will be decent (maybe 20-30% XBC2 sales?), since the country is still not as into digital as west, but I'm expecting niche sales for GC elsewhere.
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The battle system is pretty different and at least half the main cast is new characters in regards to playability (actually from this standpoint, since none of the blades aside for one were directly controllable, that actually makes most of the cast new, gameplay wise).
There's an entirely new camping system out of Grandia as well. Probably more we don't know about yet.
nope, is not a full on revamp but some things changed, you can directly control the blades now in fights and some new type of Arts
Well retail release will be tracked by the usual trackrs. Famitsu will not have anything in their monthly chart since the stand-alone release is only for retail (unless I missed something?). Doubt Nintendo will provide any numbers, yeah.
But that (bolded) is the point.
Meahnwhile Gaming is mainstream, so of course mainstream newspapers cover stories like these or the crossplay dilemma. But does it affect their strategy at all? I dont think so, not because of a stock hiccup, raging investors or because of hysterical social media activities. This would surely be crazy of them.
Don't you think you're overestimating the sales of some of those games?
My Youtube recommendations suddenly reminded me that Zanki Zero will be released in 2 weeks on PS4/PSV
As expected from Spike Chunsoft and part of the staff involved it does look a bit like Danganronpa minus the trials plus D-RPG features.
... will it even sell 50k LTD all SKU combined?
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Oh and since I did read a few very optimistic predictions about worldwide numbers for KHIII, is everyone aware that, unlike KH1 & 2, KH3 will apparently only have english and japanese dub?
For a game that is story heavy and that want to appeal to an audience as wide as possible that's a handicap worth mentioning.
As expected from Spike Chunsoft and part of the staff involved it does look a bit like Danganronpa minus the trials plus D-RPG features.
... will it even sell 50k LTD all SKU combined?
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Oh and since I did read a few very optimistic predictions about worldwide numbers for KHIII, is everyone aware that, unlike KH1 & 2, KH3 will apparently only have english and japanese dub?
For a game that is story heavy and that want to appeal to an audience as wide as possible that's a handicap worth mentioning.
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It debuted at near 100k, I'd say the bomba line is at 35-40k, but ultimately it depends on the promotion Nintendo will give to this expansion.
I think any sale of GC retail is a win for Nintendo. I don't have any expectations for it at all. It may result in some XBC2 sales, but such an increase will be spread out over many weeks and hardly noticeable in the charts.
Rip 8 million French sales.
Its an interesting question. In a way, the game feels like a complete new game with a more adult cast and a revamped battle system. It actually might behave as a sequel in sales, bringing in new audiences but also being dragged down by digital purchases and season pass purchases. I feel that the people who buy this are either new audiences who didnt buy the first game or the ones who bought the original but holded off on the season pass (like me). The sales could be high. If it ends up doing above 100k figures it would be a major success and a sign that the franchise is growing.
The Golden Country's sales being under 50k would be disappointing. That said we really need to see how Nintendo positions the title and promotes it. It's a meaty stand alone expansion that will cost half as much as the original game. They may be able to sell this to people who want an entry RPG.u
Playing the Golden Country basically removes a ton of the story beats from XC2 if you havent played it yet. If I was Nintendo I would sell it as though XC2 barely existed and this is its own awesome standalone RPG you should get and its cheap.
Playing the Golden Country basically removes a ton of the story beats from XC2 if you havent played it yet. If I was Nintendo I would sell it as though XC2 barely existed and this is its own awesome standalone RPG you should get and its cheap.
It's priced too high for what it is, if it were to launch at half of what they are wanting for it, it would probably sell a ton more.
I think for sales of Golden Country, really any number could be a win, obviously there is the expense of designing and manufacturing the case and carts, as well as shipping, however I think we could consider most of its sales to be people who A) was on the fence about buying the expansion pass, B) want to try out the series without the full investment in 2, C) people who like to give monolithsoft money.
Can't do worse than Sushi Strikers.
Can't do worse than Sushi Strikers.
I disagree, Bomba would be between 10 and 15k. It's a DLC, are we expecting much more really?
It's still a standalone retail game, meaning that they expect a certain degree of sales, so I'd say it probably depends on the promotion they give it.