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Media Create Sales: Week 23, 2019 (Jun 03 - Jun 09)

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Media Create Sales: Week 23, 2019 (Jun 03 - Jun 09)

01./00. [PS4] Rage 2 <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) {2019.06.06} (¥7.980)
02./01. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
03./02. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
04./04. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980)
05./03. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)
06./00. [PS4] Everybody's Golf VR |PlayStation VR| <SPT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.06.07} (¥3.900)
07./06. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980)
08./08. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980)
09./05. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980)
10./09. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)

Top 20

NSW - 8
PS4 - 2

(Taiwan)
01./00. [NSW] Octopath Traveler <RPG> (Square Enix) {2018.07.13}
02./01. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.05.23}
03./00. [PS4] Warhammer: Chaosbane <SLG> (Bigben Interactive) {2019.06.04}
04./03. New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11}
05./00. [PS4] Days Gone <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.04.26}

Top 5

PS4 - 3
NSW - 2

(South Korea)
01./00. [PS4] Marvel's Spiderman <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2018.09.07}
02./02. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo) {2018.02.01}
03./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.12.15}
04./01. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.05.23}
05./03. [NSW] Super Mario Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05}

Top 5

NSW - 3
PS4 - 2


Famitsu Sales: Week 23, 2019 (Jun 03 - Jun 09)

01./00. [PS4] Rage 2 <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) {2019.06.06} (¥7.980) - 12.146 / NEW <60-80%>
02./01. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 8.691 / 3.111.939 <80-100%> (-4%)
03./02. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 8.235 / 807.485 <80-100%> (-3%)
04./03. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 8.105 / 2.326.158 <80-100%> (+3%)
05./00. [PS4] Everybody's Golf VR |PlayStation VR| <SPT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.06.07} (¥3.900) - 6.367 / NEW <40-60%>
06./04. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980) - 6.139 / 1.547.445 <80-100%> (+4%)
07./05. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 5.477 / 3.084.060 <80-100%> (-1%)
08./07. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 4.524 / 630.294 <80-100%> (-2%)
09./06. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 4.334 / 1.332.569 <80-100%> (-8%)
10./00. [PS4] PlayStation VR Worlds |PlayStation VR| # <ETC> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.10.13} (¥4.900) - 3.988 / 76.367 <80-100%>
11./09. [NSW] Yoshi's Crafted World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.03.29} (¥5.980) - 3.514 / 145.466 <80-100%> (-7%)
12./10. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 3.454 / 1.039.036 <80-100%> (-3%)
13./08. [PS4] Days Gone <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.04.26} (¥6.900) - 2.792 / 177.607 <80-100%> (-27%)
14./23. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World [Best Price] # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.08.02} (¥4.990) - 2.309 / 54.381 <80-100%> (+38%)
15./15. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} (¥6.100) - 2.018 / 340.862 <80-100%> (+1%)
16./20. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 1.771 / 1.975.406 <80-100%> (+2%)
17./12. [NSW] Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.04.04} (¥6.800) - 1.725 / 121.099 <80-100%> (-17%)
18./21. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 1.667 / 2.481.465 <80-100%> (-4%)
19./17. [NSW] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster <Final Fantasy X \ Final Fantasy X-2> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.04.11} (¥6.800) - 1.662 / 38.608 <80-100%> (-13%)
20./22. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} (¥5.980) - 1.642 / 728.116 <80-100%> (-2%)
21./24. [PS4] Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice <ADV> (From Software) {2019.03.22} (¥7.600) - 1.480 / 257.518 <80-100%> (-9%)
22./18. [NSW] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.04.25} (¥5.800) - 1.450 / 36.793 <60-80%> (-22%)
23./19. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 04: VR Kit # <EDU> (Nintendo) {2019.04.12} (¥7.980) - 1.442 / 61.257 <60-80%> (-22%)
24./00. [PS4] NieR: Automata - Game of the YoRHa Edition <NieR: Automata \ NieR: Automata - 3C3C1D119440927> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.02.21} (¥4.800) - 1.237 / 42.572 <80-100%> (+22%)
25./13. [NSW] Resident Evil: Origins Collection <Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster \ Resident Evil HD Remaster> <ADV> (Capcom) {2019.05.23} (¥5.500) - 1.183 / 7.325 <40-60%> (-43%)
26./28. [NSW] Mario Tennis Aces <SPT> (Nintendo) {2018.06.22} (¥5.980) - 1.101 / 419.090 <80-100%> (-18%)
27./27. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.01.25} (¥8.800) - 1.057 / 833.828 <80-100%> (-26%)
28./00. [NSW] Fitness Boxing <HOB> (Imagineer) {2018.12.20} (¥5.800) - 1.055 / 39.752 <80-100%>
29./00. [PS4] Battlefield V <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2018.11.20} (¥7.800) - 1.017 / 182.185 <80-100%>
30./00. [NSW] Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate [Best Price] <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.11.15} (¥3.990) - 1.006 / 28.321 <80-100%>

Top 30

NSW - 20
PS4 - 9
3DS - 1

HARDWARE
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|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  NSW  |     33.590 |     33.154 |     36.449 |  1.361.335 |  1.025.305 |   8.250.881 |
| PS4 # |     30.108 |      8.982 |     26.978 |    583.959 |    900.481 |   8.136.049 |
| 3DS # |      2.732 |      2.255 |      7.285 |    122.502 |    309.126 |  24.427.466 |
| PSV # |        157 |        251 |      3.921 |     35.326 |    107.835 |   5.860.680 |
| XB1 # |        137 |         91 |        103 |      2.980 |      7.215 |     105.911 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |     66.724 |     44.733 |     74.789 |  2.106.102 |  2.351.336 |  46.780.987 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 X |         70 |         37 |         59 |      2.041 |      5.185 |      15.497 |
| XB1 S |         67 |         54 |         44 |        939 |      2.030 |      18.412 |
|PS4 Pro|      9.599 |      4.005 |      6.751 |    208.766 |    211.785 |   1.181.356 |
|  PS4  |     20.509 |      4.977 |     20.227 |    375.193 |    688.696 |   6.954.693 |
|  PSV  |        157 |        251 |      3.921 |     35.326 |    107.835 |   5.860.680 |
|n-2DSLL|      2.240 |      1.817 |      4.082 |     97.774 |    192.158 |   1.042.018 |
| n-3DS |        492 |        438 |      2.937 |     23.637 |    103.782 |   5.879.462 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

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casiopao

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That sony bump is nice even though the SW is hard to see. The second hand market must be thriving hard there.
 
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Switch better have that ~20,000 YEN Sku coming to Japan soon, the Switch sells fine as a console, but without a cheaper handheld on the market, there is no real momentum for dedicated gaming hardware in the land of the rising sun. With September stacking up and Nvidia's Tegra shipments expected to rebound this quarter, I think September is a likely launch for these heavily rumored devices, couldn't come a moment sooner.
 
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Looks like the Pokémon Direct didn't boost HW sales this time, or if it did it was just enough to avoid a bigger drop.
 
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09./06. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 4.334 / 1.332.569 (-8%)

Link slipped and fell into a cave.
 
schuelma

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Boring. Was expecting a bigger bump for Switch hardware with the Pokemon Direct, but maybe that was unfounded. Things finally pick up next week.
 
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Chris1964

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z0m3le said:
Switch better have that ~20,000 YEN Sku coming to Japan soon, the Switch sells fine as a console, but without a cheaper handheld on the market, there is no real momentum for dedicated gaming hardware in the land of the rising sun. With September stacking up and Nvidia's Tegra shipments expected to rebound this quarter, I think September is a likely launch for these heavily rumored devices, couldn't come a moment sooner.
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Switch can remain at 30k without revision and it still won't have problem to handily beat last year's sales.
 
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I can see the market shrink by 10% yoy this year. Those numbers are nothing but putrid flesh.
 
z0m3le

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casiopao said:
That sony bump is nice even though the SW is hard to see. The second hand market must be thriving hard there.
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~30K units is barely making up for what Switch was averaging last year, and still falls short 8K hardware units this week over last year's. It's a slowing market that needs a new permanent boost to hardware sales, I can only think that a large price drop of the only real hardware moving in Japan needs to happen, PS5 is not going to make up for these sales anytime soon either, so it's a real bind that Japan's gaming market is in over there, they need to see YoY growth on a weekly basis, they can't depend on the market balancing out when it has generally been shrinking every generation. Even with the Switch's growth YTD vs Last Year, Japan is down nearly 11% across all dedicated hardware.

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Switch can remain at 30k without revision and it still won't have problem to handily beat last year's sales.
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Can it make up for the 11% drop across all hardware sales?
 

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plusaflag said:
I can see the market shrink by 10% yoy this year. Those numbers are nothing but putrid flesh.
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Idk second half of the year is going to be huge especially with this coming (and Pokèmon)

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z0m3le said:
Can it make up for the 11% drop across all hardware sales?
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The conversation was for Switch, not entire Japanese market.

3DS is dead, Vita is dead and PS4 is dying. A console can't single carry everything, at least not with basically only first party offerings.
 

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Interesting bump for PS4. Switch stable. SW is dreadful (I know most are evergreens that released a while ago, but the top spot being 12k is kinda sad, and I know it's a slow period in the year but still). Boring week overall.
 
Łazy

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As long as the Switch can carry on until Mario Maker 2 it's ok.

I wonder if the E3 direct will have any effect inbetween.
 
z0m3le

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Chris1964 said:
The conversation was for Switch, not entire Japanese market.

3DS is dead, Vita is dead and PS4 is dying. A console can't single carry everything, at least not with basically only first party offerings.
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You were replying to me, and I was talking about the entire dedicated hardware market in Japan, commenting on how the market is shrinking while we wait for the PS5, and that Switch needs a heavy price drop to stop the market from shrinking this year. I don't disagree that Switch by itself will be up YoY, and I have to admit that I don't see the PS5 reversing the shrinking Playstation market in Japan. In that same vain though, Nintendo's market is shrinking too, they will not reach 3DS numbers with their current price point and as it crosses the 2 and half year mark, it should be natural to see a Nintendo hardware revision and price drops soon.

With Nintendo condensing their hardware brands into one platform, they also need to maintain total sales numbers and in my opinion, a healthy Japan over the next 5 years, means the Switch needs to hit ~30 Million units, lofty absolutely, but the 3DS, and Wii U (as poorly as it sold) should end their runs combined over 28 Million units, and I expect PS5 to slip another Million or 2 over the PS4, as Sony continues to focus their efforts outside Japan and software development focuses outside the Playstation brand there more and more.
 
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I think PS4 software sales bump can be affected in the digital segment even if is not that significant.
 
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How things looking for the Story of Seasons/Doraemon game?

That was the one I was most unsure about in the predictions.
 

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Will be interesting to see how Nintendo pushing DQXI as much as they have will affect things.
The dlc will probably launch a month before the game and should benefit both smash and DQXIS
 
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Jraphics Horse said:
It's a Sony event, there are offers worldwide. It'll be back to normal week after next.
They've been temp dropping the price roughly every 3 months I think, can probably expect it to continue.
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It is also most likely going to hurt hard when the price cut is gone again. I think Chris mentioned it in the last thread, but I think 5,000ish PS4 in this summer is likely.
 

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z0m3le said:
You were replying to me, and I was talking about the entire dedicated hardware market in Japan, commenting on how the market is shrinking while we wait for the PS5, and that Switch needs a heavy price drop to stop the market from shrinking this year. I don't disagree that Switch by itself will be up YoY, and I have to admit that I don't see the PS5 reversing the shrinking Playstation market in Japan. In that same vain though, Nintendo's market is shrinking too, they will not reach 3DS numbers with their current price point and as it crosses the 2 and half year mark, it should be natural to see a Nintendo hardware revision and price drops soon.

With Nintendo condensing their hardware brands into one platform, they also need to maintain total sales numbers and in my opinion, a healthy Japan over the next 5 years, means the Switch needs to hit ~30 Million units, lofty absolutely, but the 3DS, and Wii U (as poorly as it sold) should end their runs combined over 28 Million units, and I expect PS5 to slip another Million or 2 over the PS4, as Sony continues to focus their efforts outside Japan and software development focuses outside the Playstation brand there more and more.
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This is a fairly simplistic view and in my opinion doesn't really make a lot of sense. Companies care about more than HW sales. Do you think Sony is concerned that the PS4 won't sell as much HW worldwide as the PS3 and PSP? Of course not. Revenue and profit are booming and their SW sales are amazing. The switch is set to sell significantly more SW worldwide than the 3DS and wii U and looks set to make Nintendo far more money. That's what matters in the end.

I simply cannot agree with what you describe as being 'healthy'. If the switch goes on to sell 20+ million in Japan alone I don't see Nintendo being unhappy with that especially since it has such a good attach rate. The switch simply isn't selling 28+ million and there is no way Nintendo expects anything like that.
 
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z0m3le said:
You were replying to me, and I was talking about the entire dedicated hardware market in Japan, commenting on how the market is shrinking while we wait for the PS5, and that Switch needs a heavy price drop to stop the market from shrinking this year. I don't disagree that Switch by itself will be up YoY, and I have to admit that I don't see the PS5 reversing the shrinking Playstation market in Japan. In that same vain though, Nintendo's market is shrinking too, they will not reach 3DS numbers with their current price point and as it crosses the 2 and half year mark, it should be natural to see a Nintendo hardware revision and price drops soon.

With Nintendo condensing their hardware brands into one platform, they also need to maintain total sales numbers and in my opinion, a healthy Japan over the next 5 years, means the Switch needs to hit ~30 Million units, lofty absolutely, but the 3DS, and Wii U (as poorly as it sold) should end their runs combined over 28 Million units, and I expect PS5 to slip another Million or 2 over the PS4, as Sony continues to focus their efforts outside Japan and software development focuses outside the Playstation brand there more and more.
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That's absurd and completely unrealistic. Switch doesn't need to sell 30 million units to be more financially successful to Nintendo, we're already seeing that with the (relative to 3DS) very strong software sales.
 
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Adventureracing said:
This is a fairly simplistic view and in my opinion doesn't really make a lot of sense. Companies care about more than HW sales. Do you think Sony is concerned that the PS4 won't sell as much HW worldwide as the PS3 and PSP? Of course not. Revenue and profit are booming and their SW sales are amazing. The switch is set to sell significantly more SW worldwide than the 3DS and wii U and looks set to make Nintendo far more money. That's what matters in the end.

I simply cannot agree with what you describe as being 'healthy'. If the switch goes on to sell 20+ million in Japan alone I don't see Nintendo being unhappy with that especially since it has such a good attach rate. The switch simply isn't selling 28+ million and there is no way Nintendo expects anything like that.
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I agree that hoping for Switch selling 28 mil for me is pipe dream there. Why? Because Japan is different market now.

Unless we are seeing a crazy explosion sales like what DS experience, 20 mil+ is max.
 
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I see no issue with Switch approaching 30m in Japan if the lite version is (hopefully) as portable as DS/3DS. Though the kind of audience which Switch lite will attract won't be the ones like now who buy as many games, and attach rate will then fall quite significantly. But anyways, I see it hard to approach DS portability unless it's also a clam shell design. I think portability is even more crucial for Japan which is why the original 2DS had very low demand despite lower price (not pocketable in most pants).
 
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I see no issue with Switch approaching 30m in Japan if the lite version is (hopefully) as portable as DS/3DS. Though the kind of audience which Switch lite will attract won't be the ones like now who buy as many games, and attach rate will then fall quite significantly. But anyways, I see it hard to approach DS portability unless it's also a clam shell design. I think portability is even more crucial for Japan which is why the original 2DS had very low demand despite lower price (not pocketable in most pants).
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30 million is crazy lol. And remember during ds days mobile is not that big. Now switch will need to face the onslaught of declining population, older japanese population and of course rising mobile market.

The situation is much harsher now to even dream switch hitting 30 mil.
 
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Only two platforms have sold more than 30 million units: Nintendo DS (a monster the likes of we'll most likely never ever see again anywhere in the world, let alone in Japan), and GameBoy (including GBC).

Best case scenario for Switch is it matches 3DS sales, so about 25m LTD. Anything above that seems highly unlikely at this point.
 
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20m+ was before its release and remains Switch target for lifetime sales.
 
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Adventureracing said:
This is a fairly simplistic view and in my opinion doesn't really make a lot of sense. Companies care about more than HW sales. Do you think Sony is concerned that the PS4 won't sell as much HW worldwide as the PS3 and PSP? Of course not. Revenue and profit are booming and their SW sales are amazing. The switch is set to sell significantly more SW worldwide than the 3DS and wii U and looks set to make Nintendo far more money. That's what matters in the end.

I simply cannot agree with what you describe as being 'healthy'. If the switch goes on to sell 20+ million in Japan alone I don't see Nintendo being unhappy with that especially since it has such a good attach rate. The switch simply isn't selling 28+ million and there is no way Nintendo expects anything like that.
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That's absurd and completely unrealistic. Switch doesn't need to sell 30 million units to be more financially successful to Nintendo, we're already seeing that with the (relative to 3DS) very strong software sales.
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I'll reply to both of you here, I am in agreement that the Switch is already set to be a success, and that Nintendo should be happy with this success. It isn't Nintendo I'm talking about, how I mentioned PS5 and how I believe it will slip a million or 2 is also part of the reason for this. This last generation, of which I'm simply talking about the devices that launched around 2012 give or take 15 months, totals ~40 Million hardware units in Japan.

Switch and PS5 make up the future of Japan, and if that is the extent of it, the total market in total for Japan going forward is ~30 Million units according to your projections. It is important because Japan's software focus will continue to leave its home and it also means there will be less development focused on dedicated hardware in Japan.
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I agree that hoping for Switch selling 28 mil for me is pipe dream there. Why? Because Japan is different market now.

Unless we are seeing a crazy explosion sales like what DS experience, 20 mil+ is max.
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Japan isn't a different market than when the ps4 launched, it is simply a shrinking market, Switch's sales potential is being held back by its price IMO, all of last year, the average sales of the Switch was 50K units, this was even with a lack of new system selling software for much of the year. The software sales of the Switch are extremely high too, furthering evidence of higher interest in the platform than there was in the 3DS for instance.

Switch has a price problem in Japan that is quickly being resolved according to the last few WSJ articles about new Switch models. I don't think the Switch will have the downward trajectory that the 3DS suffered, largely because the market doesn't have any competition in sight that could slow it down and it hasn't reached its potential market in Japan, largely because it is the most expensive handheld the Japanese market has ever fully embraced. This year will be up drastically over last year in Japan especially with key software and the new handheld focus model that is likely to shave the price by over 30%.

I think flatly, that with a launch of the Switch mini in September and Pokémon in November, along with Animal Crossing in March next year, we will see the Switch Ltd more than double by the end of 2020 calendar year, to 17 Million or more, I don't think Switch will have a traditional successor either, but either way, sales won't drastically slow down for at least 3 years, passing the 3DS should absolutely be possible before the 8 year mark (March 2025), and I don't think it is impossible that Switch passes the combined totals of 3DS and Wii U.
 
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You don't believe a $199 (I'm in the US) Switch Mini can help Switch hit 11.5 to 12 Million units in Japan this year? I think with Animal Crossing positioned in spring 2020, that next year we can see growth again for the Switch and reach the 17M+ number for the end of 2020, there is no reason Switch should drop off sharply in 2021, PS5 even if it does take up some key software, will take a couple years to see that software come out, why would the Switch stop selling in 2021? 20M+ seems like the absolute floor for the Switch if indeed it sees a price drop this fall before Pokémon and Animal Crossing. I am absolutely open to the idea that I am wrong and I believe there is no one better to help me see that than you, but I don't see the reason for it.
 
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