when the thread and fearmongering started Nintendo was still up, so what is your point?
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Media Create Sales: Week 26, 2018 (Jun 25 - Jul 01)
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I'm sorry? Capcom's stock has doubled in value and at worst is set to underperform lofty expectations (hence the hit today) while Nintendo is at best flat (unhappy shareholders), at worst on a downward trend (panicked shareholders). Why are you arguing this?
People tend to forget or, possibly, don't know how business works.
It's 2014. You're Sony. You're working with Capcom to start bringing the MH franchise on your platforms. You don't know anything (or almost anything) about future Nintendo plans nor you know whether Xbox One will be a successful venture worldwide (well, there were already some data on it but it was early). You want to secure the franchise to allow PS4 to succeed big time---especially in Asia, because at that time 70-80% of sales were coming from there. Now, how would you approach the agreement? It seems natural to require a console exclusivity clause in Asia, because: 1. it was the main MH market; 2. PS3 struggled in Asia more than elsewhere so PS4 needs something to drive sales over there; 3. you don't know whether the new Nintendo platform would allow a porting of the game nor whether Xbox One would gain traction in Asia.
A firm like Sony must forecast all possibilities when agreeing on marketing and advertising expenses. It seems that a console exclusivity clause in Asia was pretty easy to obtain as Capcom wanted to focus on Western markets.
cause you are moving goal post from
"is 11% down with a reason, worthy of a thread" to "doesnt matter they still on green" when we had a 15 Pages when Nintendo down trend started after LG
I didn't make that thread or any of those arguments so not sure who you think you're taking to. I explained why I think Nintendo's decline is worth talking about. Are you having the discussion with me or with these strawmen?
Yes. You should open it. After we got 7% drop thread about Nintendo.
It would be an interesting experiment to see where a non-nintendo stock drop thread goes. But on the other hand, I can't imagine anything positive coming from it.
should I take the fall?? I actually do too want to see how ERA would react to a Non Nintendo DOOM and GlooM thread
A near 12% drop in one day is of course thread worthy. Kinda crazy that the stock went down so much just because of one game. Capcom still have Remake2 and DMC5 this fiscal year, which, from what I see, generated lots of positive buzz since announce. How do investors feel about those games?
I predicted MHW would have some bad consequences i.e. be a risk for Capcom a few days ago.
Seems shareholders agree with me.
Seems shareholders agree with me.
The excitement for MHW seems to have died off in general. MHW and Mega Man 11 are the only original games from Capcom in 2018, but I guess that's normal for them.
Devil May Cry isn't as popular as you would be led to believe.
I never believed it's very popular. But DMCV seems to have a high chance to become the highest selling DMC game ever, shouldn't investors be pleased with that? Of course not every Capcom game will sell like MHW.
This is assuming the investors know that and we don't even know if the game is releasing during the current FY. All Capcom has said is "Spring".
Of course.
It's pretty sad how Capcom made great game (and it sold really well at launch) but don't manage to fully harness its sales potential because of their shitty post release support. If MH:W had been Ubisoft game it would had sold already few extra millions on back of great post release content.
I wonder if the drop is so big because some shareholders were expecting a switch port along with PC and just thought capcom was being coy
per another article I linked on the thread, it seem they are disappointing by the lack of legs MH:W had, 3DS games kept selling/ charting longer.
this also kinda of goes with my view that World sold so massively mainly on the novelty factor :/
The long-term performance of MH on PS4/Xbox/PC was always going to be more interesting.
Last gen on 3DS they were able to drop a game pretty much every year and have it sell around 3m copies. Will be interesting to see what the can achieve per year post MHW release on these console and with what kind of products.
Last gen on 3DS they were able to drop a game pretty much every year and have it sell around 3m copies. Will be interesting to see what the can achieve per year post MHW release on these console and with what kind of products.
Yea that sounds accurate, I wonder what was their plan from this time forward, I dont see a MHW G going over well with the Western audience
The wise thing to do is announce a roadmap with major content drops like new areas and shit. Do what Ubisoft does, essentially
One of the producers mentioned back in January that the reason why the PC version is coming out later is because its the first PC release for the team, and they wanted to put extra work into it to make sure that it was done right. They wanted to finish the console versions first, then focus on the PC version. https://www.destructoid.com/monster...-up-about-the-pc-version-s-delay-481894.phtml
Easily. Including PC sales DMC4 is at around 3.4 million. Include SE sales its close to 4.4 million.
DMC5 is primed to match or break that lifetime.
It's really werid how Capcom has been slow with post-launch support.
You'd think G-rank would have dropped around the time the "too easy" criticism started getting traction with the longtime players.
You'd think G-rank would have dropped around the time the "too easy" criticism started getting traction with the longtime players.
You must have missed the PR release from Capcom after DMCV and RE2 were revealed that those two are the major titles they have planned for release this FY. But of course, since MHW, they no longer give sales forecasts for their major titles.
The only general factor is that a major title is something expected to be a million seller.
In Japan atleast people in this thread were talking about lapsed psp/ps2 owners getting interested in this one because they skipped out on Wii/3DS
I can see that as a unreliable group but I dont think we have any idea how large that base is
"OMG MH:W WITH GRAPHICS"
"OMG MH ON CONSOLES" (frontier and ports seems non existent)
"MH:W Is like Dark Souls with Dinosaurs!!"
That might be, but i think he was talking about a novelty factor of the game itself. In Japan, MHW sold relatively close to other MH titles, so i'm not sure if its easy to say who bought it. Based on previous sales, theres already enough of an audience to reach ~3 million sales at least.
Do you think tons of Monster Hunter fans and extra people bought the game just because of the better graphics and being on console, and now that they've had that "fix", they wont have any interest in the upcoming MH games? Honest question. "Being like Dark Souls" is nothing new though, that factor has always been there.
Honestly i would have liked that. A nice roadmap of DLC monster packs/maps would have been nice. But i guess Capcom isn't treating it like that.
From what I've seen, post-launch support is the same as 3DS entries, but with the addition of a new monster every once in a while.
Find that amusing with how they've said they wanted to compete with western AAA. They will have to realise that "open world maturez game with fancy grafx" doesn't really cut it anymore for being a successful AAA, especially in the multiplayer space (and your example of Ubisoft is point on, especialyl as they have thousands of developers around the world working on games, which is something Capcom doesn't really have).
Of course it is when you go from 3DS straight to HD platforms.
The improvement is from 3ds to PS4 quality lol.
From handheld ghetto to console masta race. The novelty is certainly there lol.
The ERA octopath preview thread must have sold the jp fans of the game.^_^
Better than Xeno 2 should be the tag. Wkwkwkwk
Maybe, just maybe, MH will have sustained global appeal due to improvements in visuals. You know, the first thing most people notice about any given game.
Yeah I've heard of people buying PS2 simply for being a cheaper DVD player alternative.
That only works if you know that 5M people looked at the 3ds games and said "that's ugly". I'm more willing to bet World would be the first time many of them even heard of Monster Hunter