Media Create Sales: Week 27, 2019 (Jul 01 - Jul 07)

test_account · Jul 16, 2019

ILikeFeet said:
needs more pasties

Hehe =)

Elma4Smash said:
Has anyone been expecting a 'high profile' game? From what I've been following, most people expect heavy re-use of World's content, re-arranged into a new mix. Nothing I'd call 'high profile'.

After Capcom's history with Switch so far, a real effort MH has never been on the table imo.

Theres been some speculation about bringing back the portable series of Monster Hunter again. Making a custom version just for the Switch. Its all relative, but that would be high profile in general, just like the portable serie was.

Just of out curiousity, what would you define as real effort in this regards?

Deleted member 1413 · Jul 16, 2019

Lite_Agent said:
A 78 pages feature in Famitsu magazine this week. No, it's not for the latest Monster Hunter game or anything. No, just for the Final Fest (Splatoon 2).

It's already rare for a game to get such a huge feature, but for a mere in-game event...

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201907/16179661.html

Nintendo sure has been making a bigger deal out of this one than the Splatoon 1 final Splatfest.
Wonder if sales will go up this week since it's their last chance to participate.
(I think Splatfest is this weekend?)

ILikeFeet · Jul 16, 2019

Elma4Smash said:
Has anyone been expecting a 'high profile' game? From what I've been following, most people expect heavy re-use of World's content, re-arranged into a new mix. Nothing I'd call 'high profile'.

After Capcom's history with Switch so far, a real effort MH has never been on the table imo.

that's what Portable 3rd was, which was the best selling game until World

Elma4Smash · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
What you describe is high profile.

schuelma said:
That would sell 3-4M copies in Japan.

Oh, you're strictly talking about sales, right? Can't blame you considering the thread.

I meant 'high/low profile' in terms of the effort Capcom actually puts into the development of such a hypothetical Switch MH. That's where I wouldn't expect anything 'high profile'.

test_account said:
Hehe =)

Theres been some speculation about bringing back the portable series of Monster Hunter again. Making a custom version just for the Switch. Its all relative, but that would be high profile in general, just like the portable serie was.

Just of out curiousity, what would you define as real effort in this regards?

A proper brandnew MH that features a new town, new areas, well-written new story and lots of new monsters. And a couple gameplay features that weren't part of World (see how Tri brought underwater, or 4 brought climbing).

Simply a game that can stand on its own feet without being regarded as 'what remains of World'.

Geg · Jul 16, 2019

Cartridge Games said:
Nintendo sure has been making a bigger deal out of this one than the Splatoon 1 final Splatfest.
Wonder if sales will go up this week since it's their last chance to participate.
(I think Splatfest is this weekend?)

Yep, it actually starts in less than 48 hours I think.

Lelouch0612 · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
If you want to believe Monster Hunter Switch is out at Q1 2020 you also have to believe it will be a low profile game and not what you expect.

There is also the possibility that Animal Crossing being delayed to the end of Q1 could have pushed a higher profile MH to Q2.

Chris1964 · Jul 16, 2019

Next round of Capcom high profile Switch support in October.

Wild prediction: digital only, with zero features added, overpriced and will continue the path of low performing Capcom titles on Switch lately.

test_account · Jul 16, 2019

Elma4Smash said:
A proper brandnew MH that features a new town, new areas, well-written new story and lots of new monsters. And a couple gameplay features that weren't part of World (see how Tri brought underwater, or 4 brought climbing).

Simply a game that can stand on its own feet without being regarded as 'what remains of World'.

Understood. That does essentially sound like MH6, and it would be better for Capcom to make that multiplatform instead of an exclusive to one platform, in my opinion. The Portable serie is based on the main games (2G from MH2, and Portable 3rd and TriG from MH3).

Lite_Agent · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
Next round of Capcom high profile Switch support in October.

Wild prediction: digital only, with zero features added, overpriced and will continue the path of low performing Capcom titles on Switch lately.

Fun fact: the blog link doesn't work (because the tweet went live 1h too early). I know it's just a silly CM mistake, but you cannot help but chuckle at how they managed to mess that one up, ha ha.

Mbolibombo · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
Next round of Capcom high profile Switch support in October.

Wild prediction: digital only, with zero features added, overpriced and will continue the path of low performing Capcom titles on Switch lately.

What are the best performing Capcom titles?

MH Generations @ 1.2M early 2019
USF2 @ 500k mid 2017
RERE @ 250k early 2018

So basically everythin released after 2017 outside of the western MH port has tanked?

Deleted member 2791 · Jul 16, 2019

Mbolibombo said:
What are the best performing Capcom titles?

MH Generations @ 1.2M early 2019
USF2 @ 500k mid 2017
RERE @ 250k early 2018

So basically everythin released after 2017 outside of the western MH port has tanked?

Not at all. Capcom reported that USF2, SF30th and Mega Man 11 all sold well or met expectations. We don't have any comments/data yet about the more recent Switch ports.

Mbolibombo · Jul 16, 2019

Passing Assassin said:
Not at all. Capcom reported that USF2, SF30th and Mega Man 11 all sold well or met expectations. We don't have any comments/data yet about the more recent Switch ports.

Probably because they didnt sell all too well. Outside of USF2 (which I already mentioned) who absolutely must have shattered what they expected.. SF2 for 40$ selling more than 500k is nothing but amazing for Capcom.

Deleted member 2791 · Jul 16, 2019

Mbolibombo said:
Probably because they didnt sell all too well. Outside of USF2 (which I already mentioned) who absolutely must have shattered what they expected.. SF2 for 40$ selling more than 500k is nothing but amazing for Capcom.

No, it's just because we didn't get the financial Capcom report yet.

Zedark · Jul 16, 2019

Mbolibombo said:
Probably because they didnt sell all too well. Outside of USF2 (which I already mentioned) who absolutely must have shattered what they expected.. SF2 for 40$ selling more than 500k is nothing but amazing for Capcom.

You can't really assume bad sales out of no mention. Nintendo didn't make a comment about first week Smash sales, and that definitely didn't mean it didn't do well, for example.

Avada Kedavra · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
Wild prediction: digital only, with zero features added, overpriced and will continue the path of low performing Capcom titles on Switch lately.

Same as the PS4 versions then.

Chris1964 · Jul 16, 2019

We have eShop sales for Capcom's late digital only Switch releases and they didn't light up the charts.

For Onimusha and Phoenix Wright we know sales were super low across all systems.

Herb Alpert · Jul 16, 2019

Avada Kedavra said:
Same as the PS4 versions then.

Were they 30€ on PS4 ? I thought they were 19?

Avada Kedavra · Jul 16, 2019

Herb Alpert said:
Were they 30€ on PS4 ? I thought they were 19?

Yen cost hasn't been announced for the Switch versions as far as I know but the PS4 versions were something like 3k yen.

Deleted member 37233 · Jul 16, 2019

Avada Kedavra said:
Same as the PS4 versions then.

The difference is that the PS4 got this and new games.

Pooroomoo · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
If you want to believe Monster Hunter Switch is out at Q1 2020 you also have to believe it will be a low profile game and not what you expect.

MH Tri port incoming.

Mbolibombo · Jul 16, 2019

Zedark said:
You can't really assume bad sales out of no mention. Nintendo didn't make a comment about first week Smash sales, and that definitely didn't mean it didn't do well, for example.

I'm not assuming it based on no mention, I am assuming it over the fact that the games hasnt been high on the e-shop, hasnt received a physical release world wide, the numbers we have from Japan is yikez at best and the fact that yeah.. it's old overpriced ports.

I will gladly eat my words if Capcom says that Ace, DD, DmC and RE1-4 sold very well. I just dont believe it.

Herb Alpert · Jul 16, 2019

Pooroomoo said:
MH Tri port incoming.

Yeah, but with new hats

Chris1964 · Jul 16, 2019

Lelouch0612 said:
There is also the possibility that Animal Crossing being delayed to the end of Q1 could have pushed a higher profile MH to Q2.

Capcom decided the last moment to push MH Switch behind because or Animal Crossing? I don't see that. The two games have zero audience overlap and a a programmed Q1 release would require a reveal around TGS, close to Iceborn. With how close Capcom is to Sony and after MHXX treatment on Switch I don't see a single hypothetical scenario Capcom would do something that would create the suspicion a single sale of Iceborn would be affected.

schuelma · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
Next round of Capcom high profile Switch support in October.

Wild prediction: digital only, with zero features added, overpriced and will continue the path of low performing Capcom titles on Switch lately.

Looks like in US at least, Capcom is offering a $60 triple pack with RE4 on cartridge and the other 2 as download codes.

Deleted member 37233 · Jul 16, 2019

schuelma said:
Looks like in US at least, Capcom is offering a $60 triple pack with RE4 on cartridge and the other 2 as download codes.

We also have a special bundle coming to North American retail – Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 5, and Resident Evil 6 will all be included in the Resident Evil Triple Pack! This pack brings together all three games in one convenient place, with Resident Evil 4 on a cartridge and Resident Evil 5 and 6 included as a digital download voucher. You can grab this pack for $59.99 beginning October 29th.

"This pack brings together all three games in one convenient place." - Yes, very convenient that you have to download 5 and 6.

Chris1964 · Jul 16, 2019

schuelma said:
Looks like in US at least, Capcom is offering a $60 triple pack with RE4 on cartridge and the other 2 as download codes.

That's still 2/3 digital. We know Switch digital releases will be more expensive than PS4. If Capcom tries something similar for Japan, that's the best comparison:

[PS4] Resident Evil Value Pack {Resident Evil 0 HD Remaster \ Resident Evil HD Remaster \ Resident Evil 4 \ Resident Evil 5 \ Resident Evil 6} <ADV> (Capcom) (¥8.100)

Out from September 2016, all games on disc.

Deleted member 51691 · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
Next round of Capcom high profile Switch support in October.

Wild prediction: digital only, with zero features added, overpriced and will continue the path of low performing Capcom titles on Switch lately.

Two bombas incoming. RE5 and RE6 suck. Not sure why Capcom is even bothering with these two ports

Elma4Smash · Jul 16, 2019

test_account said:
Understood. That does essentially sound like MH6, and it would be better for Capcom to make that multiplatform instead of an exclusive to one platform, in my opinion. The Portable serie is based on the main games (2G from MH2, and Portable 3rd and TriG from MH3).

You're right that multiplatform would make sense for such game. BUT: Then the Switch would be excluded again, because do you really think Capcom would risk a single sale from people saying 'well, MHW2 isn't as good as the first one because the Switch held it back'? That's why I think any Switch MH needs to be exvlusive. And It's why I don't expect any 'high profile' release, quality-wise. :(

Pooroomoo said:
MH Tri port incoming.

... I'd kinda like that 🙈 Tri was the last challenging MH where you sometimes had to quit a mission accepting the secondary objective because you realized it wasn't gonna work out.

Lichtsang said:
"This pack brings together all three games in one convenient place." - Yes, very convenient that you have to download 5 and 6.

I always laugh when I see threads on resetera praising Capcom. It's really a situation where you have to divide into 'Capcom Super Saiyan' that makes all the best games, and 'Capcom Yamcha' that makes ... Switch-games. :/ The latter deserving nothing but criticism if not open mockery.

Hell, I think EVERY Capcom-game released on Switch can be associated with some type of shenanigans occurring attached to its released.

Deleted member 37233 · Jul 16, 2019

Elma4Smash said:
Hell, I think EVERY Capcom-game released on Switch can be associated with some type of shenanigans occurring attached to its released.

Sadly that's true. Even when the ports are actually good they're either over-priced or not getting a physical release, sometimes both.

Deleted member 51691 · Jul 16, 2019

Elma4Smash said:
I always laugh when I see threads on resetera praising Capcom. It's really a situation where you have to divide into 'Capcom Super Saiyan' that makes all the best games, and 'Capcom Yamcha' that makes ... Switch-games. :/ The latter deserving nothing but criticism if not open mockery.

Hell, I think EVERY Capcom-game released on Switch can be associated with some type of shenanigans occurring attached to its released.

The duality of Capcom. Lots to be bitter about with Capcom's abysmal Switch support as of late, but they have been making some great games for the other platforms.

hussien-11 · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
Next round of Capcom high profile Switch support in October.

Wild prediction: digital only, with zero features added, overpriced and will continue the path of low performing Capcom titles on Switch lately.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/capkel/...t-evil-6-land-on-nintendo-switch-october-29th

check their blog, there are more details about the release.

i think 30$ is reasonable for a 360/PS3 game. and there will be a physical release for 4/5/6 together.

Deleted member 2791 · Jul 16, 2019

hussien-11 said:
i think 30$ is reasonable for a 360/PS3 game

it's 20$ for the exact same games on PS4/One

Elma4Smash · Jul 16, 2019

Lichtsang said:
Sadly that's true. Even when the ports are actually good they're either over-priced or not getting a physical release, sometimes both.

And/or unnecessary late, like Okami and Dragon's Dogma (the latter running at nom-native resolution, too ...).

Deleted member 37233 · Jul 16, 2019

Elma4Smash said:
And/or unnecessary late, like Okami and Dragon's Dogma (the latter running at nom-native resolution, too ...).

I'm still waiting for the Disney Afternoon Collection...it's that late.

Deleted member 51691 · Jul 16, 2019

Lichtsang said:
I'm still waiting for the Disney Afternoon Collection...it's that late.

I think they straight-up forgot about it at this point

hussien-11 · Jul 16, 2019

Passing Assassin said:
it's 20$ for the exact same games on PS4/One

For us, consumers, it sucks. but from their perspective, this is a higher profile release on Switch due to its nature than the other systems, plus its a new game for Nintendo's platform, but an old game for PS4/XOne, so if there are new customers, it will be a good value for them.

the physical release is better value though, it appears they at least listened a little to criticism.

Deleted member 37233 · Jul 16, 2019

stealthyfrog said:
I think they straight-up forgot about it at this point

It's so strange to release a collection of NES games on every platform but Nintendos...

Deleted member 2791 · Jul 16, 2019

stealthyfrog said:
I think they straight-up forgot about it at this point

tbh this place is the only one to even remember this release at all

Deleted member 1413 · Jul 16, 2019

Trilogy pack is good, at least.
3 games for presumably $60 is a better value than the 3 for $90.
Will probably go on sale eventually too

Chris1964 · Jul 16, 2019

hussien-11 said:
i think 30$ is reasonable for a 360/PS3 game. and there will be a physical release for 4/5/6 together.

There's no excuse for Capcom's late overpriced Switch digital ports. The only thing they achieve is turning even more potential customers away from them. It's not 2017 anymore, there are better options out there.

Pokémon · Jul 16, 2019

Lichtsang said:
I'm still waiting for the Disney Afternoon Collection...it's that late.

That game should have been on Switch day and date with the other versions. The collection came out shortly after the Switch's launch and would have sold amazingly. Not to mention it's a collection of games that have a history with a Nintendo console. The Afternoon Collection not coming out on Switch perfectly sums up the relationship of Capcom with the Switch: weird decisions followed by more infuriating decisions.

Chris1964 · Jul 16, 2019

God Eater 3 looks to be around 30k.

Zedark · Jul 16, 2019

Chris1964 said:
God Eater 3 looks to be around 30k.

That'd be a good debut for a late port like this imo. A bit better than I expected (I had 39k for 3 weeks worth of sales), at least I think so.

Oregano · Jul 16, 2019

Isn't that slightly worse than GE2 Rage Burst did on PS4?

Not a great debut, it will need to show legs(not unlikely).

Lelouch0612 · Jul 16, 2019

Oregano said:
Isn't that slightly worse than GE2 Rage Burst did on PS4?

Not a great debut, it will need to show legs(not unlikely).

Rage Burst did 32k FW/55k LTD on PS4.

skullwaker · Jul 16, 2019

Oregano said:
Isn't that slightly worse than GE2 Rage Burst did on PS4?

Not a great debut, it will need to show legs(not unlikely).

According to GDL, GE2: Rage Burst launched at 32k on PS4. It wasn't a late port as GE3 is on Switch, although it launched alongside the far more popular PSV version.

Zedark · Jul 16, 2019

Oregano said:
Isn't that slightly worse than GE2 Rage Burst did on PS4?

Not a great debut, it will need to show legs(not unlikely).

That was a day and date release with the VITA version, though.

Oregano · Jul 16, 2019

Lelouch0612 said:
Rage Burst did 32k FW/55k LTD on PS4.

Thanks, I was trying to google it but it just kept bring up results for the original GE2 result.

That's lower than I remembered so I think the Switch version of GE3 will do better than that which is probably a good sign considering GE2 Rage Burst's original version sold more than GE3's original version.

Oregano · Jul 16, 2019

Zedark said:
That was a day and date release with the VITA version, though.

skullwaker said:
According to GDL, GE2: Rage Burst launched at 32k on PS4. It wasn't a late port as GE3 is on Switch, although it launched alongside the far more popular PSV version.

Wait, I thought it was later?

Did Toukiden release later? I might have got them mixed up.

Definitely a positive sign then, even if the overall result is still a little meh.

Deleted member 2791 · Jul 16, 2019

Id say GE3 did better because unlike a lot of other late Bamco ports, there was already an audience built there with the previous release of MHXX.

Hopefully whatever is next, be it GE4 or a spinoff, releases day and date on Switch.

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