Still better than hoping the parent company of the game between not going localizing them or localizing them like 3 years late lol.
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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2018 (Jul 23 - Jul 29)
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Still better than hoping the parent company of the game between not going localizing them or localizing them like 3 years late lol.
I hope people saying MHW is not good have not said 3DS MH are good.
In December we could see Pokémon (2x), Labo (2x), Smash, Yo-kai Watch 4, Splatoon 2, BOTW, SMO, MK8D, Kirby SA, Taiko Switch, Super Mario Party and Mario Tennis in the top 20. Potential games for top 20 spots are 1-2-Switch, DKTF, and some games I may be forgetting. Unless there will be more releases, I don't think Switch will fill up the whole of the top 20 this year (unless Pokémon has more than 2 SKUs, in which case all bets are off).
I don't think I've ever disagreed with a post more lol, on all counts (I.e. Saying Atlus are bad and NISA are good. It's like the complete opposite of my experience).
Right, so in the BD example above, even with stock issues like OT, it couldn't increase its sales when the stock issues were resolved going by those numbers - so I'm not really holding on to much hope OT will be any different. Though maybe there's a better example of a game that ran out of stock, dropped to 20% of it's first week sales due to stock in week 2, then in week 3 rose like 300% when stock was resolved?
This is not NPD :P Media Create and Famitsu will combine both version of Pokémon... i mean they always do,i don't think this time is gonna be different.
Dengeki does not combine them too.
Hardware Sales YTD vs Last Year YTD (Until September 3rd)
Code:+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+ |System | This Week | YTD | Last Year | Last YTD | +-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+ | NSW | 48.370 | 1.413.731 | 89.314 | 1.286.300 | | PS4 # | 18.645 | 1.064.247 | 93.356 | 995.055 | +-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
Switch vs Wii
Weekly
Accumulated
Code:------------------------------------------------------------- | | Nintendo Wii | Nintendo Switch | Difference | | | (2006/12/02) | (2017/03/03) | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | NSW - Wii | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | 72 | 46.296|5.762.516| 50.239|4.624.235| -1.138.281| | 73 | 44.241|5.806.757| 53.745|4.677.980| -1.128.777| | 74 | 48.796|5.855.554| 48.370|4.726.350| -1.129.204| | 75 | 71.518|5.927.072| | | | | 76 | 67.308|5.994.380| | | | | 77 | 41.572|6.035.952| | | | | 78 | 49.047|6.084.999| | | | | 79 | 50.851|6.135.850| | | | | 80 | 44.639|6.180.489| | | | | 81 | 45.564|6.226.053| | | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
PS4 vs PS3
Code:------------------------------------------------------------- | | PlayStation 3 | PlayStation 4 | Difference | | | (2006/11/11) | (2014/02/22) | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | PS4 - PS3 | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | 230| 27.453|6.470.114| 17.596|6.917.696| 447.582| | 231| 22.431|6.492.545| 20.309|6.938.005| 445.460| | 232| 22.265|6.514.810| 18.645|6.956.650| 441.840| | 233| 19.033|6.533.843| | | | | 234| 23.954|6.557.797| | | | | 235| 20.883|6.578.680| | | | | 236| 13.789|6.592.469| | | | | 237| 12.935|6.605.404| | | | | 238| 15.987|6.621.391| | | | | 239| 16.510|6.637.901| | | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
Minecraft Switch vs Minecraft Vita Edition
Code:------------------------------------------------------------- | | Minecraft Vita | Minecraft Switch | Difference | | | [PSV] (2015/03/19)| [NSW] (2018/06/21)| | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | Switch – Vita| |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | 1 | 36.151| 36.151| 61.764| 61.764| 25.613| | 2 | 21.069| 57.220| 25.773| 87.537| 30.317| | 3 | 15.880| 73.100| 19.148| 106.685| 33.585| | 4 | 11.842| 84.942| 15.101| 121.785| 36.843| | 5 | 12.175| 97.117| 16.265| 138.051| 40.934| | 6 | 12.667| 109.784| 16.067| 154.118| 44.334| | 7 | 16.166| 125.951| | | | | 8 | 18.025| 143.976| | | | | 9 | 11.303| 155.278| | | | | 10 | 11.898| 167.176| | | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
Kirby Star Allies vs Kirby Triple Deluxe
Code:------------------------------------------------------------- | |Kirby Triple Deluxe| Kirby Star Allies | Difference | | | [3DS] (2014/01/11)| [NSW] (2018/03/16)| | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | KSA – KTD | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | 16 | 6.326| 559.903| 6.379| 546.771| -13.132| | 17 | 10.046| 569.949| 6.833| 553.604| -16.345| | 18 | 10.056| 580.005| 6.160| 559.764| -20.241| | 19 | 4.504| 584.509| 6.407| 566.171| -18.338| | 20 | 4.055| 588.563| 6.620| 572.791| -15.772| | 21 | 3.858| 592.422| | | | | 22 | 3.709| 596.131| | | | | 23 | 3.379| 599.510| | | | | 24 | 3.051| 602.562| | | | | 25 | 2.809| 605.371| | | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
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Mario Tennis comparison
The Switch HW this year is a basically a straight line, or a line with a slight progression upwards. It doesn't seem to be affected by virtually anything? What's the reason for this?
nis has been doing a bit of a spike chunsoft thing in that they acquire western titles for japanese release. they also have a focus on licensing out their characters and creating mobile games. not sure how strong that is for them in japan, but the console game business is just one of their focuses these days.
regarding disgaea 1 - they did a pretty poor job with the marketing. for a game that was supposed to be an anniversary title, they gave it the same treatment as basically anything, by having a magazine announce it and not letting their western branch go in with them on it (the nisa announcement happened a week later and carried a lot further). after that, i don't recall much in the way of interviews or trying to build the game up in any way. considering that disgaea 6 will probably be some big-huge game, i don't understand why they went this route either.
as for nisa, every year since 2015, it looked like they didn't have enough to do, and then suddenly they acquired about 20 projects. weird shit too that you wouldn't expect like culdcept, games with snk, assault spy, or killer7 on steam. they will likely be fine for a couple of years at least while nis develops disgaea 6 among their smaller art projects.
It is the third tracker ! :p
Each time you hear about an exact sell-through ratio it is thanks to Dengeki.
Last week numbers :
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/769/1769274/
I hope that it continues (or rather returns) to being a yearly series.
There'a a motherfucking shit ton of context that some people seem to miss just by doing a quick take...
Anihawk, can't NiSA also go to look for some smaller company in Japan and help them localize their product too? I always feel that NiSA should try localizing Vestaria Saga there to please some hungry hungry FE fans before 3 house lol.
That won't happen lol. CoD and some title maybe Jikkyou on PS4 probably would make some of the spots taken by PS title.
Solid numbers... sadly the departure of Labo and especially Dankey Kang in the top 20 :<
out of the 14 Switch releases 7 of them are third party.. so that's nice..
NSW release at the same time or yet another split release`?
out of the 14 Switch releases 7 of them are third party.. so that's nice..
NSW release at the same time or yet another split release`?
they tried that with the touhou games to varying degrees of success. they worked with experience in the same way for a couple of years too. i don't think they have strong connections to the japanese indie market though.
Let's take a look at Week 51 of last year :
01./02. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 209.630 / 1.292.281 (+57%)
02./01. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch Busters 2: Hihou Legend Banbarayaa - Sword / Magnum <ACT> (Level 5) {2017.12.16} (¥4.800) - 184.739 / 393.279 (-11%)
03./03. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 176.789 / 1.345.962 (+49%)
04./04. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 137.607 / 1.668.466 (+95%)
05./05. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 100.205 / 1.045.438 (+98%)
06./08. [3DS] Kirby Battle Royale <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.11.30} (¥4.980) - 42.796 / 115.324 (+70%)
07./11. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 35.565 / 738.026 (+83%)
08./18. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX <FTG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22} (¥5.980) - 27.053 / 177.835 (+143%)
09./19. [NSW] Arms <FTG> (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} (¥5.980) - 25.285 / 297.491 (+136%)
10./00. [PS4] The Idolm@ster: Stella Stage # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.21} (¥8.200) - 23.772 / NEW
11./21. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 23.156 / 328.694 (+130%)
12./14. [3DS] Style Savvy: Styling Star <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.11.02} (¥4.980) - 21.321 / 105.557 (+58%)
13./00. [PS4] Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings # <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) {2017.12.21} (¥7.300) - 21.129 / NEW
14./06. [PS4] Earth Defense Force 5 <ACT> (D3Publisher) {2017.12.07} (¥7.800) - 20.536 / 164.944 (-38%)
15./17. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700) - 18.019 / 336.543 (+50%)
16./20. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Koko, Dokonan Desu? <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.07.20} (¥4.800) - 17.769 / 110.355 (+76%)
17./15. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon Veteran Trainer's Dual Pack {Pokemon Ultra Sun \ Pokemon Ultra Moon} <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥9.960) - 17.679 / 319.945 (+46%)
18./00. [PS4] Okami HD # <ADV> (Capcom) {2017.12.21} (¥2.990) - 16.536 / NEW
19./00. [NSW] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 - Deluxe Edition <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.12.21} (¥5.800) - 16.011 / NEW
20./27. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} (¥6.800) - 15.916 / 89.161
The only PS4 game that was not a new release was EDF5. No CoD (despite it selling very well, it was #30) or other mainstream games.
So, if there are no new release on Christmas, Switch miight have a small chance but I am more confident for it to happen on Dengeki.
I wonder if NIS/NISA have any other bigger projects coming up (particularly for Switch) that haven't been announced yet.
Any new hints maybe Anihawk? :P
If it is a December title, there is 0 chance.
Before mid-November, there is still a slim chance.
Regardless, it is a little bit pointless to discuss about that without having the full Q4 line-up.
I take NISA doing the localization of Caligula Overdose on PS4, Steam & Switch with physical + collector releases for both consoles over Atlus USA not even being able to release the original Caligula game on Vita outside of a digital-only release, while "considering" a Limited Run Games release (that never happened).
I disagree simply because you call them a shitty localisation studio which implies their quality of their localisation to me. Not their physical (or lack thereof) releases.
I meant to say their ability to localize a game in general, as in releasing in time, with physical release and on multiple platforms, not just the translation.
I looked up NIS' earnings release from May (so over Q1 2018) and they had a big increase in revenue and profit compared to Q1 2017. However, they didn't give a sales split: no mobile vs console, no Japan vs west, no self-developed vs published. But they only have one big mobile thing as far as I know and that's Makai Wars - although they are still working on a Yomawari mobile game/port. To say their self-developed console business is just one of many things doesn't sound right to me; it looks like their console business is a much bigger investment, so it should also give significantly more returns.
As for NIS America, if they "didn't have enough to do", why did they let it come so far that they still were too tight on localisation and QA schedules? The brand got quite a lot of damage in the last couple of years. Sounds unnecessary to me. Things like the Ys 8 PC debacle probably cost them more sales than it would've cost them to make sure the thing was clean and ready on first try, or am I wrong?
Yeah, thing is still sold out everywhere here it is crazy. Haven't seen a single copy in stock in any of the stores I frequent. No idea how SE could have such a stock issue.
It would be more telling than funny. This kind of "record" is speaking volume of the strenght of Switch software yes but also the weakness of the competitors.
Having the Japanese dedicated market that dependant of a single company is not a good thing at all but it is where the market is headed. The golden era of last gen is over yes but at least the market is in a better position than a couple of years ago.
COD is also releasing extra early this year, and in general there is little releasing in November, so the odds of old PS4 entries showing up are relatively small. DQB2 could be one of those titles, since it's still slated for fall afaik.
Don't think it's funny.
But how would it not be interesting? It would say a lot about the Japanese gaming market, for better or for worse.
When a version of the PlayStation comes out that can show growth in the region people will get more interested.
So far even with Monster IPs behind it, the platform is barely tracking to the same level of the PS3 which was a showcase for declines that occurred during its time on the market.
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I see. That's a valid opinion I just care more about the quality of the game itself when it comes to localisation..
Dark Souls will release way before that.
DQXI will release way after that.
Interesting info. I always feel that NISA should see what Circle Entertaintment did and copy their formula there. Portinf some smaller devs title+ indies is not a bad idea to allow NiSA to keep being busy and getting more profit from those small releases.
Because it'd be the first time it has happened and as observers we can't do more than muse about it.
A better market where a variety of games sell well and chart is always better for everyone and I hope this holiday is better than last year, but until then it's just interesting to see if the town is painted red.
Technically they aren't, say what you want about the NA branch. Quality wise, they are shite, but you can't deny that they will aggressively approach new companies and even japanese indies if opportunities come, localize them and even porting the games themselves to other platforms if possible.
And about NIS, what they need now actually isn't investing into other mid tier IPs, but rather a successful mobile game or two. A successful mobile game will guarantee them directly profits while granding them more budgets into other projects
It's not interesting, because it's just a consequence of known very weak 1st party output for the Japanese tastes, especially in the second half of 2018. The old solution to have deals for some key 3rd party games isn't enough, because development times increased too much compared to past generations, which means longer gaps, and many staple series saw declines.