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K Samedi

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Oct 27, 2017
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Mario Maker is doing really well considering there's a big digital share too. I think 2 million isn't out of reach. It also shows how popular 2D Mario still is and that a new entry in 2D still has big potential. I hope they go for a different style next time around
 

sfortunato

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is definitely a surprise:

06./00. [NSW] Olympic Games Tokyo 2020: The Official Video Game <SPT> (Sega) {2019.07.24} (¥4.990) - 9.425 / NEW <20-40%>
07./06. [NSW] Olympic Games Tokyo 2020: The Official Video Game <SPT> (Sega) {2019.07.24} (¥4.990) - 8.311 / 17.736 <40-60%> (-12%)
10./07. [NSW] Olympic Games Tokyo 2020: The Official Video Game <SPT> (Sega) {2019.07.24} (¥4.990) - 7.632 / 25.368 <40-60%> (-8%)

I wonder whether it is simply pushed by Summer holidays or there's actual some genuine interest in the game given the even will take place in Japan.

I think it'll continue to have strong legs right through till the sequel releasing (and may get a temporary boost from that as well). Dont think anyone predicted Zelda being able to break out in this way in Japan or WW.

No one also considering Skyward Sword sales. Breath of the Wild is a defining moment for the franchise as Final Fantasy VII or Grand Theft Auto 3 were for their respective franchises.

The percentages are sell through of stock? Why are all of Nintendo's games so close to being fully sold through, that sounds like missed opportunity?

That's a good news because it means there's not much unsold stock left, meaning that Nintendo periodically is shipping the right amount. It is worrying when a new game has a high sell-through because it might lead to stock issues.
 

Mbolibombo

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Oct 29, 2017
7,043
That's a lot of leggy software. Nice!

Is this the lowest sellthrough for a first party game?

21./00. [NSW] Tetris 99 <PZL> (Nintendo) {2019.08.09} (¥3.418) - 2.528 / NEW <0-20%
 

Chris1964

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Oct 25, 2017
11,155
That's a lot of leggy software. Nice!

Is this the lowest sellthrough for a first party game?

21./00. [NSW] Tetris 99 <PZL> (Nintendo) {2019.08.09} (¥3.418) - 2.528 / NEW <0-20%
Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2017 (Nov 06 - Nov 12)

21./00. [NSW] Snipperclips Plus: Cut it Out, Together! <PZL> (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} (¥3.280) - 2.994 / NEW <6,95%>
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
14,719
The Netherlands
Super Mario Maker 2 week 7:
01./01. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} (¥5.980) - 35.846 / 490.415 <80-100%> (-2%)

Super Mario Maker 1 week 7:
04./03. [WIU] Super Mario Maker # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.09.10} (¥6.156) - 15.817 / 337.039 (-26%)

SMM2 > 2×SMM1, although the summer holidays help in that regard. Soon the comparison will go somewhat in favour of SMM1 because it goes into the end of year holidays, but we should continue to expect SMM2 to vastly outsell SMM1 in comparable weeks. As I said before, 2M at retail is not entirely out of the question yet - though by no means a guarantee.
 

Mbolibombo

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Oct 29, 2017
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20./00. [NSW] Snipperclips Plus: Cut it Out, Together! <PZL> (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} (¥3.280) - 3.068 / NEW <0-20%>
14./00. [WIU] The Wonderful 101 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.08.24} (¥6.830) - 5.258 / NEW
Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2017 (Nov 06 - Nov 12)

21./00. [NSW] Snipperclips Plus: Cut it Out, Together! <PZL> (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} (¥3.280) - 2.994 / NEW <6,95%>

Thanks.

2.994 / NEW <6,95%>

eeek
 

Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
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Somewhere. I think.
The percentages are sell through of stock? Why are all of Nintendo's games so close to being fully sold through, that sounds like missed opportunity?

Sell-through only matters during the first couple of weeks. After that, unless a game has utterly bombed, it will pretty much be 80-100% all the time. Retailers are getting new shipments on regular basis, no game in the Top 30 is anywhere near sold out.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
14,719
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Third week drop for FE:

Fates = -56%
Awakening = -38%
Three Houses = -45%

Right in the middle of the other two.

As always, final determination on FETH cannot happen until we get shipment numbers in October. We know that sell-through is high, so shipped should not be far removed from sold through. The reason why we wait is because FETH is showing an overperformance on the eshop, ranking about SMM2 for many weeks and doing better in general on the eshop. SMM2, in turn, had a high digital number as well, as determined from the recent earnings release (roughly 30%). As a result, it is plausible that FETH digital share goes 40% or higher, which would add a huge amount of sales that Fates and Awakening didn't have to nearly the same degree.
 

Chris1964

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Oct 25, 2017
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Media Create Sales: CY 2017 (2017 Jan 02 - 2017 Dec 31)

134./000. [NSW] Snipperclips Plus: Cut it Out, Together! <PZL> (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} (¥3.280) - 34.619 / NEW (2.994 <6,95%>)
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks.

2.994 / NEW <6,95%>

eeek
Games that already are out digitally sell differently once they get a retail release, because there is no first week anticipation like there is for new releases:
Code:
SWI    Snipperclips Plus - Cut it out, together!    3.068    91.391    Nintendo
As you see, Snipperclips easily outsold its first shipment, and Tetris should do the same.
 

Sagitario

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm loving these legs. bring on "The Sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild"! /s
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Aleh

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Oct 27, 2017
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Let's Go keeps having random spikes and I'm running out of possible explanations
 

Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
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Somewhere. I think.

Yes, should be. The few weeks just before it goes into effect should see a noticeable increase as people will want to buy their stuff before the prices go up, then they will drop back down once it's gone into effect (and it won't be too pretty). That's what happened with the latest VAT increase, from what I remember. But it's not like sales will explode or anything, but should be a noticeable impact.

As for any long-term impact, it's impossible to say at the moment. But games and consoles being even more pricey certainly won't help, that's for sure.
 

Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
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Dengeki data is out:


PS4 15,156 - 24.6% / 292,505 - 25.0%
Vita 94 - 0.2% / 5,217 - 0.4%
Switch 43,753 - 71.0% / 810,564 - 69.3%
3DS 2,568 - 4.2% / 58,792 - 5.0%
ETC 34 - 0.1% / 2,713 - 0.2%
Total 61,605 - 100.0% / 1,169,791 - 100.0%

This week - Market share / FIscal Year - Market share
 
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Aostia82

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's having a strange trajectory, for sure.

The only thing I can possibly attribute this spike to is either the Sword/Shield info release last week, or maybe the Go-Fest?


I lost Let's go overall performance
How is it doing in japan and ww compared to previous similar games (not exactly mainline?)
 

Aostia82

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Oct 27, 2017
7,366
Thank you

If I remember correctly, aldo GO mobile performance in Japan haven't been as spectacular as in the west

Could be that in Japan the brand has always been so strong that now is just seeing a little bit of fatigue?

With western sales rising in the otjer hand, everything seems fine (at least)
 

Fisico

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Oct 27, 2017
2,106
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Why in the world would two Switch Tetris games be released at retail on the same week?

It doesn't matter, both are budget (re)releases that are there to sell for months/years mostly outside the chart, Tetris 99 is free for any NSO subscriber and Puyo Puyo Tetris is a 5y old game that was also a launch title on Switch and was discounted to super low price on eshop already.

Bomberman made a comeback on Dengeki (the lack of "R" in the title is Dengeki's typo, not mine :p)

41./57. [NSW] Super Bomberman Smile Price Collection <ACT> (Konami) {2018.11.29} (¥2.980) - 1.023 / 32.389
 
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MysticGon

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Oct 31, 2017
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If you have told me 300k for Professional Baseball Spirits 2019...

Baseball must really be seeing a surge in Japan or something.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Netherlands
Thank you

If I remember correctly, aldo GO mobile performance in Japan haven't been as spectacular as in the west

Could be that in Japan the brand has always been so strong that now is just seeing a little bit of fatigue?

With western sales rising in the otjer hand, everything seems fine (at least)
We can determine that when Sword and Shield come out. Let's Go is such a different type of game that you can't reliably determine franchise decline from it. The next gen Pokémon should give us a good idea, though.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Mario Maker finally outselling NSMB U in the comparison chart makes me happy. 1.5 million+ will be amazing and a lock at this point.

Zelda's legs are crazy good. Must be very strong word of mouth with that one. There's still a massive Switch audience in Japan not buying the game though... I wonder if BOTW2 can break into that audience a little more, and with a stronger start if the sequel can outsell it at least in Japan.

I understand the Tetris games are not supposed to sell on the first week in particular but still... Two Tetris re-releases in the same week, really?

Super Mario Party off the charts for good it seems. Why Nintendo? Why is this the only first party game with no follow up free/paid content? It's very saddening because there is so much potential for it to actually be a series great. Edit: I'm blind. Come on Nintendo, stop work on the sequel give us a little bit of content :(

The amount of content in Taiko is insane. I wish it sold more. Maybe digital is big on this one? I wish they add back in 3-4 player compatibility for the main mode that the later Wii games had.

Smash Bros. Ultimate has sold quite a bit more than Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. This is different to the Wii U where Kart has sold more, and 3DS where they were more even. My guess is that there are some Wii U owners who have not double dipped on Switch. Perhaps Nintendo should release some new Mario Kart content to address this? It's Not Nintendo but Pokken has Deluxe in the title and still got DLC.
 
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Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
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05./00. [NSW] Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet - Complete Edition for Nintendo Switch <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.08.08} (¥6.800) - 11.770 / NEW <40-60%>

Day 1 sell-through was 40% with Media Create, so I take it final sell-through is closer to 60%. Dengeki has it at 55% too.

Outsold PS4 re-release (8k), but of course, it's way behind original (81k FW).

Can't wait to see how Alicization, a brand new game, is going to do on Swit......... oh.

Tetris 99 is free for any NSO subscriber

No. Well, yes, but this release includes both paid DLC (well, second one isn't out yet :P). But yeah, low sales were expected, legs is where this one will shine (or not).

Tbh, I consider Tetris 99 at retail nothing more than a NSO sub packed with a game :P
 
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Oregano

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dengeki data is out:


PS4 15,156 - 24.6% / 292,505 - 25.0%
Vita 94 - 0.2% / 5,217 - 0.4%
Switch 43,753 - 71.0% / 810,564 - 69.3%
3DS 2,568 - 4.2% / 58,792 - 5.0%
ETC 34 - 0.1% / 2,713 - 0.2%
Total 61,605 - 100.0% / 1,169,791 - 100.0%

This week - Market share / FIscal Year - Market share

Obligatory nice.
05./00. [NSW] Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet - Complete Edition for Nintendo Switch <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.08.08} (¥6.800) - 11.770 / NEW <40-60%>

Day 1 sell-through was 40% with Media Create, so I take it final sell-through is closer to 60%. Dengeki has it at 55% too.

Outsold PS4 re-remease (8k), but of course, it's way behind original (81k FW).

The lesson Bamco will take away is that Switch owners don't want the games, rather than they don't want them 18 months late.
 

KillerMan91

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thank you

If I remember correctly, aldo GO mobile performance in Japan haven't been as spectacular as in the west

Could be that in Japan the brand has always been so strong that now is just seeing a little bit of fatigue?

With western sales rising in the otjer hand, everything seems fine (at least)


I think part of the reason is the aging of Japan. Population is shrinking half a million a year (and the rate is just increasing) so extremely popular series like Pokemon will take a hit (especially as kids demographics take the biggest hit with low birth rate). It's harder and harder to sell those old Pokemon numbers when the amount of customers shrinks every year.
 

dean_rcg

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Oct 27, 2017
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I should probably get a life but to see BotW doing so well after nearly 2 and a half years is heart-warming to say the least!
 

Lite_Agent

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Oct 26, 2017
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09./19. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Let's Go, Eevee! # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} (¥5.980) - 8.019 / 1.598.153 <80-100%> (+111%)

I just noticed the increase, and yeah, this doesn't look normal. My guess is it's due to the HW bundle, since increase (+4k) is more or less the same as the Switch increase this week.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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I dived into the earnings release reports a bit, and I found this Mario Party statistic for Japan impressive:

31-3-2008: Mario party 8 - 1.26M shipped
31-3-2019: Super Mario Party - 1.22M shipped

Despite most expectations, SMP is incredibly close to the numbers that MP8 did in Japan (and keep in mind that the MP8 numbers start at July 26 2007, not October 5 like for SMP). SMP is selling faster than MP8 even in Japan (my exposé on worldwide numbers makes clear that it is by far the fastest selling game worldwide), which is impressive since MP8 and MPDS were previously assumed to be untouchable (before SMP released). This game is an amazing success story in many markets.

What's more, SMP shipped 170k in Japan in the first quarter of the calendar year, while MP8 shipped 80k between January 1st 2008 and March 31st 2008. Sales pace is remarkable for sure, although the fact that MP8 released a quarter earlier helps to understand this disparity somewhat.
 

Ryng™

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Nov 2, 2017
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Would you look at that! The KING is 10k away from hitting half a million units, did we somehow skipped over to the next century already?

Anyone who wishes to participate in the prediction league is welcome to do so!

Predict when will Super Mario Maker 2 reach 1 million units (purely Japan retail, no digital). Bonus points if you predict exact numbers (the closest one will win)

So far we have these predictions:

1. WestEgg: Week 49, 2019 --> 1,020,000
2. Zedark: Week 1, 2020 --> 1,050,000
3. Limabean01: Week 10, 2020 --> 1,003,000
4. Zakatana: Week 5, 2020 --> 1,026,000
5. Lelouch0612: Week 46, 2019 --> 1,020,000
6. Slarvac: Week 49, 2019 --> 1,021,987
7. pld: Week 48, 2019 --> 1,000,321
8. Adventureracing: Week 46, 2019 --> 1,000,050

The grand prize is immunity for one MC week where you will be able to give a hot take for any console/game you want without anyone criticizing you! (No immunity guaranteed)
P.S. パワーファイアフラワー
P.S.S. Thanks to hiska-kun for making the thread! Also thanks to Chris for past threads :)

wait i'm pretty sure i made i'm prediction as well >:(