I really doubt that.Fantasy Life 2 is the only L5 game that could sell 1 million copies worldwide and guess what, it's nowhere to be seen.
Done with that company.
I really doubt that.Fantasy Life 2 is the only L5 game that could sell 1 million copies worldwide and guess what, it's nowhere to be seen.
Done with that company.
What noteworthy games? All the headliners seem to not be on it. Sakura Taisen, REsistance, FFVIIR, Yakuza 7, Death Stranding, DBZ Kakarot and even L5's big announcement is a PS4 port.
I know Level 5 is a mess and will botch it. Just saying that having a PS4 version for Europe always made sense for the game, they're just doing this in a weird way announcing it after the Switch version flopped and is full of problems that they haven't fixed yet. Besides the fact that we all know L5 is terrible at publishing games overseas by themselves.
When are we going to start the talks about the lack of Switch games on TGS and japanese third party support btw
Don't think next gen matters much when they're trying to sell it to kids. This isn't the audience to be early adopters of brand new consoles. It's a move that gives them a few extra sales in Europe.
In Europe, where kids have PS4s. I doubt this will do much in Japan.If they are trying to sell to kids, PS4 is definitely the wrong platform.
When are we going to start the talks about the lack of Switch games on TGS and japanese third party support btw
JP 3rd party's are too busy getting ready for next gen and not giving a fuck about their target audienceI'm almost sure that TGS will end and Switch will have zero big announcements.
That really depends on what you consider a big announcement. Outside of something like Momotaro Densetsu the only really big announcement in general has been Yakuza 7 and even that isn't exactly new.I'm almost sure that TGS will end and Switch will have zero big announcements.
But this is a Japanese sales thread! 😉Worldwide? DMC2 will vastly outsell a PS4 version of YW4. No one asked for this
Atlus actually makes money with Persona on Playstation and SMT on Nintendo. Doubt they will change how they've always operated. They're kinda like Falcom in that they're successful the way they are and there's no need to change.Actually, maybe more Japanese companies should start to act this way, like Atlus/Sega.
Atlus actually makes money with Persona on Playstation and SMT on Nintendo. Doubt they will change how they've always operated. They're kinda like Falcom in that they're successful the way they are and there's no need to change.
In Europe, where kids have PS4s. I doubt this will do much in Japan.
Can't talk about Atlus, but I'm almost sure Yakuza and Sakura Wars are PS exclusives because of Nagoshi and no one else.I'm sure there is an audience for P5 on other platforms, Yakuza, SMTV, and Sakura Wars too. they are just limiting themselves, being comfortable with what they have.
I see Atlus case as a bit different from the other (declining) companies as they're actually selling more now than they used to and they never were a company focusing on multiplatform development, like Bandai Namco, Sega, etc. They support both Sony and Nintendo as well, just with different games. Maybe they could sell more by putting Persona on Switch and SMT on Playstation, but I'm inclined to believe they have reasons to prefer focusing on exclusivity, like making sure the game is suited for a specific platform and having marketing deals with Nintendo/Sony.There is no need to change... this is the mentality that made Japan lose its leadership in this industry. Falcom games sales are down in Japan with Vita's death, and from what we know YsVIII sold very well on Switch oversees.
Western companies strategy of multi-platform games proved to be the more effective strategy long term, it put them in a favorable position to negotiate with platform holders which promote them by spending millions of dollars, or pay a lot for some exclusive content, while the games also continue to build a fanbase on all platforms.
I'm sure there is an audience for P5 on other platforms, Yakuza, SMTV, and Sakura Wars too. they are just limiting themselves, being comfortable with what they have.
Boom! One of the few remaining third party titles not yet on PlayStation. Sony have hit it out of the park in this regard this gen. Won't sell much but good to see it. Years ago I was calling for YKW and MHW on ps4 and both have happened.
The only issue here is we don't even have a date for the localization, the key to over 90 percent of the PS4 base. While I would like to think they have that already worked out and it will be soon, Level 5 and solid release dates aren't exactly an iconic duo.I'm gonna be on the opposite side here. Yokai Watch 4 on PS4 is a good move for Level-5.
PS4 is a console with more than 100m+ userbase. a worldwide release on Switch/PS4/PC maybe can recoup costs and make some profits for the company. PS4 is a hard platform to ignore with this big of a userbase, it is turning into another PS2.
Actually, maybe more Japanese companies should start to act this way, like Atlus/Sega.
Yup and that's exactly why it's gonna happen lol.I can't imagine a worse combination.
A studio that can only make multimedia products that last 2~3 years and are all aimed at the japanese market. And an american tech company with no real relevance in the japanese game market and no handheld device.
Would you reckon porting YKW to the ps4 is expensive?I'm gonna be on the opposite side here. Yokai Watch 4 on PS4 is a good move for Level-5.
PS4 is a console with more than 100m+ userbase. a worldwide release on Switch/PS4/PC maybe can recoup costs and make some profits for the company. PS4 is a hard platform to ignore with this big of a userbase, it is turning into another PS2.
Actually, maybe more Japanese companies should start to act this way, like Atlus/Sega.
What? I never called for YW to be exclusive so not sure where you get that angle from. I'm happy it's coming to the ps4 and day 1. From a selfish point of view I wouldn't want every game to be developed for switch as they'd be reduced in scope to incorporate the weaker hardware. If Nintendo released a console with the power of a modern playstation I'd be more then happy to see it get every 3rd party title. Having said that even if a game is announced for the ps4 and Switch day 1 it really doesn't bother me. It's good to see Nintendo and Sony both on topOh Kerotan. I'm always reminded of how much you don't care for other platforms. You're satisfied as long as every game gets ported to the PS4. It serves as a grim reminder of how terrifying the world would be if Nintendo and Microsoft truly goes third-party. Your behavior closely resembles hardcore Disney fans that actually want the conglomerate to buy everything up.
Wouldn't it be nice if other platforms get the same treatment? To have games ported to their platform regardless of sales performance? Man, you can't get games on Switch or Xbox or PC even if a previous entry was successful on it. How nice would it be if the community here actually supports multi-platform games for ALL platforms instead of it meaning "exclusives being ported to the PS4". Probably be a wholesome community without console wars when everyone supports each other's choice of platform and believes they all deserve the right to play third-party games on their preferred platforms. :)
FixedI wouldn't want every game to be developed for switch as they'd be reduced in scope to incorporate the weaker hardware.
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Laughs in Polish.From a selfish point of view I wouldn't want every game to be developed for switch as they'd be reduced in scope to incorporate the weaker hardware.
Any ideas how the 2nd week is shaping up?Second week of Iceborne will be important for getting into price drops or not.
Biggest announcements TGS has so far are that Resident Evil and Yo-kai Watch 4, so nothing important.I'm almost sure that TGS will end and Switch will have zero big announcements.
To be honest from a purely technical point of view it's good to see YW4 on a stronger console. It's a beautiful game that really struggles on Switch, at least now a version that runs better will be out there.
It is interesting though, wonder if it means no Nintendo help for the western release. Maybe they did this port because they knew already.
Pretty much. But it's not the first time we have seen weird decisions from Level5. They pretty much abandoned their most lucrative audience last gen outside of milking Youkai Watch in favour of mobile market and wasting a lot of resources on NiNoKuni2. YW4 on PS4 in particular looks like a move out of desperation, as nothing else seems to be at a presentable state right now. Their success during the NDS and 3DS days could be things in the past, nothing that is currently known looks promising. Basically reduced themselves from mini Square to pseudo Atlus.
I know Level 5 is a mess and will botch it. Just saying that having a PS4 version for Europe always made sense for the game, they're just doing this in a weird way announcing it after the Switch version flopped and is full of problems that they haven't fixed yet. Besides the fact that we all know L5 is terrible at publishing games overseas by themselves.
It is successful in France and Spain, but those are countries where the 3DS was already strong.Are the Yokai Watch games particularly successful in any European country? At least in Germany, all of the games are among the few Nintendo releases that dropped in price sharply and quickly. With the exception of Yokai Watch 3, because they only shipped like 5 copies total of it.
I generally agree that having kids focused titles also on PS4 makes sense for the European market, but in Yokai Watch's case I wonder if we are talking about more than a few thousand copies here.
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More like close to 500k. There is a big chance half of the sales will come from vouchers.Fire Emblem scooting along. With digital it's easily over 250,000 in Japan. Which is nice enough though I am thankful its Japanese performance isn't indicative of its world wide performance haha.
Nba 2k20 switch obviouslyGuess which one everyone is coming to this thread to call a flop?
Guess which one everyone is coming to this thread to call a flop?
Guess which one everyone is coming to this thread to call a flop?
Level 5 is a shadow of the past and there's nothing at horizon that can change it. Yo-kai Watch 4 failed and everything else is at development hell.
Unfortunate turn from what they used to be but this was written at wall from years ago with the shortsighted strategy they followed. Sometime the well would dry.
If Nintendo really stopped helping them at west things will go even worse.
Yep. Nintendo is going to carry Japan for the foreseeable future.Biggest announcement during TGS week for the japanese market will probably be from Nintendo.