Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2017 (Nov 06 - Nov 12)

Celine · Nov 15, 2017

Neapolitan said:
Oh, I was under impression that ~25k is the baseline number. Glad it is not the case then.
I guess Nintendo will ride the wave all the way to the holiday window.

Ah!
25K was Switch baseline for the period when Nintendo could not ship more weekly.

ikaben · Nov 15, 2017

Can't say if Taiko is holding well or not.

KuwabaraTheMan · Nov 15, 2017

Looks like we should keep seeing good Switch shipments through the end of the holidays. Mario is showing pretty solid legs as well.

Eolz · Nov 15, 2017

Vinnk said:
Yes. The Switch is still supply constrained.

I know no one asked yet, but it is always asked each week and I just wanted to get it over on the first page of the new thread. It is supply constrained this week just as it has been every week since launch.

Carry on.

Nice to see somr confirmation, thanks.

Vinnk said:
Nothing weird about a system that has historically been number 1 worldwide, help grown dozens of Japanese franchises worldwide, is the best selling system worldwide and is receptive to Japanese software to be getting the best Japanese third party support.

;)

Hehe.

Nocturnal said:
At this rate GTS won't even sell 200K, if it's selling 5K with 50% off there is not much retailers can do to move more.

Of course not. Or maybe 250k at the very best.
Everyone saw it coming really, the global sales likely won't be pretty either.

Chrome Hyena · Nov 15, 2017

Damn poor Sonic Team. They will have to do some real soul searching for the next 3D Sonic game. Perhaps they should try to farm it out/team up with someone to help them.

It also didn't help to release it so close to Mario Odyssey either I imagine.,

Zedark · Nov 15, 2017

Neapolitan said:
True. Switch will be a monster this holiday window.

Oh, I was under impression that ~25k is the baseline number. Glad it is not the case then.
I guess Nintendo will ride the wave all the way to the holiday window.

It was the baseline for shipments. As Vinnk said, it has enever not been supply constrained, and big number are needed to alleviate the issues most likely.

Adamska · Nov 15, 2017

Amazing hold for COD, I wonder how leggy it'll be

Łazy · Nov 15, 2017

Menx64 said:
Smt did well at the end. It bolds well for SMTV.
Hopefully Xenoblade 2 can do 200k+.

I don't see Xenoblade 2 even reaching 100k first week, maybe not even do the same numbers as the previous entries. But I hope I'm completely wrong.
However... I see it having the best legs.

Celine · Nov 15, 2017

Chris1964 said:
It's not at the same damage level like west but the expected explosion of Swtch shipments this December in Japan will take sales away from other systems at hardware and software. Waiting for next year is likely the best scenario even there.

It was not discussed much in the past due to Nintendo inability to ship more Switch but a booming console will inevitably "suck air away" from the remaining mildly selling consoles (PS4, 3DS).

kickz · Nov 15, 2017

Great to see Splatoon chugging along, its quickly becoming a top 3 favorite Nintendo franchise of mine.

Gotdatmoney · Nov 15, 2017

Chris1964 said:
Mayb

It's not at the same damage level like west but the expected explosion of Swtch shipments this December in Japan will take sales away from other systems at hardware and software. Waiting for next year is likely the best scenario even there.

Yeah this is true too. I would assume as well since publishers like to stack Q1 for Sony games this also played a part.

Mark H said:
I guess even MonHun brand can't compete with Nintendo Xmas effect in Japan.

On a more popular system maybe. On the PS4? Nope.

Hero of Legend · Nov 15, 2017

Chrome Hyena said:
Damn poor Sonic Team. They will have to do some real soul searching for the next 3D Sonic game. Perhaps they should try to farm it out/team up with someone to help them.

It also didn't help to release it so close to Mario Odyssey either I imagine.,

What's that? Sonic Team's passion is leaking? CALL THE PLUMBER!

Mory Dunz · Nov 15, 2017

Thanks for the charts hiska

KillerMan91 · Nov 15, 2017

RocknRola said:
I've said it last week, I'll say it again: I'm always kinda shocked to see how well CoD does in Japan. Has a legit chance of reaching 300k on actual retail sales.

Black Ops III has sold about 383k in retail. Considering how so far WWII is outselling it (Black Ops III was at 187.446 after two weeks) it might reach 400k in retail. Add stronger digital sales too and it will be best selling COD this gen in Japan.

Edit. Forgot bargain edition of Black Ops III so total retail for it is actually 383k and not 365k in retail.

Krypt · Nov 15, 2017

damn sonic did better than i expected

FreedomFighter · Nov 15, 2017

OfficerRaichu15 said:
Dang Switch will have 3 million sellers in its first year..

Maybe even four depending on how generous the holidaze are to Zelda, but yeah, most likely three.

Elandyll · Nov 15, 2017

Jon said:
aha over 1k xbox one X sold thats impressive

Well...

Yes and no.

Someone could argue that selling 1k of anything that isn't actually being sold (in store) is good, as it looks like retailers were only doing sales via pre orders, but it's still only 1k vs 23.500 Xbox One sold back in 2013 during the first week in Japan (which was already way down from the 360).

It's actually awful.

RocknRola · Nov 15, 2017

KillerMan91 said:
Black Ops III has sold about 365k in retail. Considering how so far WWII is outselling it (Black Ops II was at 187.446 after two weeks) it might reach 400k in retail. Add stronger digital sales too and it will be best selling COD this gen in Japan.

Oh wow, really? Damn! CoD has clearly earned it's spot among the Japanese gamers it seems. Well done for the franchise, not an easy task that.

mclem · Nov 15, 2017

Chris1964 said:
Mario 64 at 1,9m and 3D Land at 2,2m+ and counting are the only you must care.

Speaking of which, who was behind the old graphical Mario chart with the increasing-sized Marios?

Hero of Legend · Nov 15, 2017

https://goldmetalsonic.wordpress.co...tch-lifetime-japanese-sales-data-compilation/

Got MC Top 20 Switch numbers up, and I added Nights of Azure 2's updated Famitsu number that WSJ provided before but forgot to. :P

Lite_Agent · Nov 15, 2017

05./08. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 14.027 / 802.472 (-12%)

Finally, 800k at retail. That 1m getting closer and closer.

Aktlys · Nov 15, 2017

Switch might outsell PS4 by summer

Chris1964 · Nov 15, 2017

Celine said:
It was not discussed much in the past due to Nintendo inability to ship more Switch but a booming console will inevitably "suck air away" from the remaining mildly selling consoles (PS4, 3DS).

It's already happenng at same degree with 3DS and PS4. I don't think going against Switch this December will be a smart move after so many months of shortage.

silpheed-mcd · Nov 15, 2017

[NSW] Super Mario Odyssey - 652.284
[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 634.850

First mission completed :p

The next target :p :
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 802.472

SWITCH GAMES, Ranking Sales, Japan, 2017 (Nov 06 - Nov 12)

Media-Create: 27 Switch games

01 - Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) (2017.07.21) - 1.318.138
02 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) (2017.04.28) - 802.472
03 - Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) (2017.10.27) - 652.284 (+1)
04 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) (2017.03.03) - 634.850
05 - 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 242.742
06 - ARMS (Nintendo) (2017.06.16) – 232.688
07 - Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) (2017.08.25) - 158.448
08 - Pokken Tournament DX (Pokemon Co.) (2017.09.22) - 115.691
09 - Super Bomberman R (Konami) (2017.03.03) – 97.123
10 - Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.28) – 53.531
11 - Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.09.07) – 44.239
12 - Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) (2017.03.03) – 41.419
13 - Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) (2017.06.01) – 37.728
14 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) (2017.05.26) – 21.139
15 - Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) (2017.03.03) – 17.323
16 - FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) (2017.09.29) – 17.276
17 - Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) (2017.07.20) – 10.247
18 - Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) (2017.09.21) – 9.482
19 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) (2017.04.20) – 7.447
20 - Lost Sphear (Square Enix) (2017.10.12) – 5.770
21 - LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.06.29) – 5.351
22 - [NSW] Sonic Forces (Sega) (2017.11.09) - 4.686 (NEW)
23 - One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.08.24) – 4.652
24 - Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo) (2017.08.31) – 4.463
25 - Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.07.20) – 3.220
26 - NBA 2K18 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (2017.10.17) – 2.689
27 - Champion Jockey Special (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.14) – 2.626

Thank you Hero of Legend :)
https://goldmetalsonic.wordpress.co...tch-lifetime-japanese-sales-data-compilation/

Rainrir · Nov 15, 2017

Gotdatmoney said:
Yeah this is true too. I would assume as well since publishers like to stack Q1 for Sony games this also played a part.

On a more popular system maybe. On the PS4? Nope.

MonHun used to be part of the Nintendo Christmas though. This Christmas will be the first real test for MH with the release of the MHW preload PS4 bundles.

January software release will help it on Japan with PS gamers. However, in the west....

KillerMan91 said:
Black Ops III has sold about 365k in retail. Considering how so far WWII is outselling it (Black Ops II was at 187.446 after two weeks) it might reach 400k in retail. Add stronger digital sales too and it will be best selling COD this gen in Japan.

What this tells me is that the PS4 base in Japan seems have been assimilated into the giant blob that is "western gaming tastes and preferences". This trend started in PS3 years and have accelerated since.

"Yoge wa kusoge" is dead...I think?

I think it probably means a tougher time for very Japanesey stuff to sell, unless it also hits global mainstream tastes.

Deculture A GO GO!

That said I wonder if Star Wars will open big too., maybe 150k? I mean the only thing the shitstorm in the west over lootboxes is that craptons of people care for the game enough to make noise (and only a few of the wouldn't buy in).

ShyMel · Nov 15, 2017

sinonobu said:
The game is receiving quite a negative feedback in Japan.

Apparantely the true ending is the anime's ending, which doesn't resolve any plotpoints, and the general execution is worse than the anime, which wasn't all that great either.

While I am not too worried about the sales (I think most non-Steins;Gate semicolon games perform about the same) hearing that it is worse than the anime stings a little.

KillerMan91 · Nov 15, 2017

RocknRola said:
Oh wow, really? Damn! CoD has clearly earned it's spot among the Japanese gamers it seems. Well done for the franchise, not an easy task that.

COD has sold well in Japan since PS3 era. Best selling COD is still Black Ops II which sold 565k units in Japan but yes WWII sales are pretty good for COD in Japan and if it has really good legs it might reach even 500k in the end with digital which would put it as second best selling COD in Japan (MW2 sold around 500k too).

RocknRola · Nov 15, 2017

KillerMan91 said:
COD has sold well in Japan since PS3 era. Best selling COD is still Black Ops II which sold 565k units in Japan but yes WWII sales are pretty good for COD in Japan and if it has really good legs it might reach even 500k in the end with digital which would put it as second best selling COD in Japan (MW2 sold around 500k too).

Oh man, looks like I needed to pay more attention then hehe :P Good to know though! Very impressed by that!

Hero of Legend · Nov 15, 2017

silpheed-mcd said:
[NSW] Super Mario Odyssey - 652.284
[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 634.850

First mission completed :p

The next target :p :
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 802.472

Media-Create: 27 Switch games

01 - Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) (2017.07.21) - 1.318.138
02 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) (2017.04.28) - 802.472
03 - Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) (2017.10.27) - 652.284 (+1)
04 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) (2017.03.03) - 634.850
05 - 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} – 242.742
06 - ARMS (Nintendo) (2017.06.16) – 232.688
07 - Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) (2017.08.25) - 158.448
08 - Pokken Tournament DX (Pokemon Co.) (2017.09.22) - 115.691
09 - Super Bomberman R (Konami) (2017.03.03) – 97.123
10 - Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.28) – 53.531
11 - Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.09.07) – 44.239
12 - Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) (2017.03.03) – 41.419
13 - Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) (2017.06.01) – 37.728
14 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) (2017.05.26) – 21.139
15 - Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) (2017.03.03) – 17.323
16 - FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) (2017.09.29) – 17.276
17 - Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) (2017.07.20) – 10.247
18 - Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) (2017.09.21) – 9.482
19 - Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) (2017.04.20) – 7.447
20 - Lost Sphear (Square Enix) (2017.10.12) – 5.770
21 - LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.06.29) – 5.351
22 - [NSW] Sonic Forces (Sega) (2017.11.09) - 4.686 (NEW)
23 - One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) (2017.08.24) – 4.652
24 - Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo) (2017.08.31) – 4.463
25 - Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) (2017.07.20) – 3.220
26 - NBA 2K18 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (2017.10.17) – 2.689
27 - Champion Jockey Special (Koei Tecmo) (2017.09.14) – 2.626

BTW, thanks for posting lists with the data I collected and crediting me, means a lot to me! :)

I hope others appreciate my work. I'm always open to suggestions also! I was thinking of adding the prices to each line, is that important enough? I left it out as they were not included in the Dengeki lists which is actually what inspired my collecting in the first place! :P That's why I trim the fat from Famitsu and MC to keep them all consistent.

Gotdatmoney · Nov 15, 2017

Rainrir said:
MonHun used to be part of the NintendoChristmas though. This Christmas will be the first real test for MH with the release of the MHW preload PS4 bundles.

Before the move to 3DS the games did fine during the holidays on PSP. Grsnted PSP was a sales monster and PS4 is more of a kitten that's not really the point.

I think on a stronger platform a holiday release would be fine. But PS4 just isn't that platform. I imagine the preload should do fine though.

So side note but is there any reason why the Taiko games are always exclusive to one platform?

Celine · Nov 15, 2017

Rainrir said:
What this tells me is that the PS4 base in Japan seems have been assimilated into the giant blob that is "western gaming tastes and preferences".

I think it probably means a tougher time for very Japanesey stuff to sell, unless it also hits global mainstream tastes.

Deculture A GO GO!

About 8 out of the 20 best selling PS4 games in Japan are western developed.

CeroMiedo · Nov 15, 2017

Fukuzatsu said:
Do you think BotW will sell 300,000 and some units before March 3rd?

Splatoon 2,MK8D and Odyssey,no need for botw

Lelouch0612 · Nov 15, 2017

Rainrir said:
That said I wonder if Star Wars will open big too., maybe 150k? I mean the only thing the shitstorm in the west over lootboxes is that craptons of people care for the game enough to make noise (and only a few of the wouldn't buy in).

It will bomb hard.

WestEgg · Nov 15, 2017

silpheed-mcd said:
01 - Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) (2017.07.21) - 1.318.138
02 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) (2017.04.28) - 802.472
03 - Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) (2017.10.27) - 652.284 (+1)
04 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) (2017.03.03) - 634.850

Nintendo's 4 Horseman

silpheed-mcd · Nov 15, 2017

Hero of Legend said:
BTW, thanks for posting lists with the data I collected and crediting me, means a lot to me! :)

I hope others appreciate my work. I'm always open to suggestions also! I was thinking of adding the prices to each line, is that important enough? I left it out as they were not included in the Dengeki lists which is actually what inspired my collecting in the first place! :P That's why I trim the fat from Famitsu and MC to keep them all consistent.

Damn, first time I forget to credit you :p

Rainrir · Nov 15, 2017

Gotdatmoney said:
Before the move to 3DS the games did fine during the holidays on PSP. Grsnted PSP was a sales monster and PS4 is more of a kitten that's not really the point.

I think on a stronger platform a holiday release would be fine. But PS4 just isn't that platform. I imagine the preload should do fine though.

So side note but is there any reason why the Taiko games are always exclusive to one platform?

That was a different time, when the HH market was 50 million and HC was 30 million.

Celine said:
About 8 out of the 20 best selling PS4 games in Japan are western developed.

That is still showing an increasing trend. PS3 top 20 only had 1 western-developed game in it.

So yeah, "yoge wa kusoge" is eroding amongst the PS4 gamers. Maybe by PS5 it will be western domination.

Plus, you keep seeing good sales for these western made games, despite not much hardware increases.

These PS4 gamers are consuming these games at high rates.

JonnyDBrit · Nov 15, 2017

Hero of Legend said:
BTW, thanks for posting lists with the data I collected and crediting me, means a lot to me! :)

I hope others appreciate my work. I'm always open to suggestions also! I was thinking of adding the prices to each line, is that important enough? I left it out as they were not included in the Dengeki lists which is actually what inspired my collecting in the first place! :P That's why I trim the fat from Famitsu and MC to keep them all consistent.

Honestly man you're doing great work. It's nice to have all that info compiled.

sinonobu · Nov 15, 2017

Not sure it this is the best thread to post this but Arms will receive Chinese language patch

http://www.nintendo.tw/software/switch/

Skittzo · Nov 15, 2017

WestEgg said:
Nintendo's 4 Horseman

That would make for some amusing fan art.

MoonFrog · Nov 15, 2017

sinonobu said:
Not sure it this is the best thread to post this but Arms will receive Chinese language patch

http://www.nintendo.tw/software/switch/

Cool more localizations is a good thing.

Marcus Brutalius · Nov 15, 2017

1.344 Xs? Ouch, so not even every gaming journalist in Japan bought one? ;P
I'm pulling this out of my ass, but 5$ that in the same time frame more 500$ leather trousers from Bavaria, Germany were sold in Japan than the X.

gogosox82 · Nov 15, 2017

Sonic did not sell well holy shit. Hopefully it did better in NA and EU.

sinonobu · Nov 15, 2017

ShyMel said:
While I am not too worried about the sales (I think most non-Steins;Gate semicolon games perform about the same) hearing that it is worse than the anime stings a little.

Yeah I was expecting this game to resolve a lot of unresolved questions that anime had but seems that's not the case at all.

As a person who thought the show had some potential it saddens to see them mishandling the cool premise.

silpheed-mcd · Nov 15, 2017

Pal charts but interesting:

Nintendo Switch's average tie ratio in the UK and Spain is 3 boxed games for every console sold. That's exactly the same as Wii ten years ago
https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/930804989995421701

Damn, where is pal thread? :p

Zedark · Nov 15, 2017

Zedark said:
Let's do another update:

Japan: 18 +2
UK: 63 -15
US: 33 -4
Spain: 14 -8
France: 21 -10
Germany: 66 -14
Canada: 21 -6
Italy: 13 -10

Been 3 days since the last update, let's do one more Xenoblade amazon ranking update:

Japan: 18 ==
UK: 67 -4
US: 24 +9
Spain: 11 +3
France: 24 -3
Germany: 69 -3
Canada: 27 -6
Italy: 30 -17

Great hold on amazon for Japan and US, other territories mostly holding on as well.

qrac · Nov 15, 2017

ninboy said:
5,938 for PS4 and 4,686 for Switch. Not that far apart. 55% vs 45%. It's a nice split.

Nice split for switch considering the total user base vs PS4.

Deleted member 59 · Nov 15, 2017

I can't wait for the Christmas just for the Nintendo boom. Will be exciting to see what they can ship and sell during peak season.

Zedark · Nov 15, 2017

WestEgg said:
Nintendo's 4 Horseman

Pokémon am cry

Rainrir · Nov 15, 2017

Jonno394 said:
I can't wait for the Christmas just for the Nintendo boom. Will be exciting to see what they can ship and sell during peak season.

One thing is that a Nintendo needs to ship everywhere. Hopefully, Nintendo remembers to ship enough to Japan so that Japanese developers can finally feel optimistic about the console market again.

Most already do feel optimistic, looking at most of the annual reports this year, but going for a slam dunk victory lap will definitely help.

Zedark said:
Pokémon am cry

Pokemon is the Trumpeter. The one that heralds the Nintendoom.

Nintendojitsu · Nov 15, 2017

Aktlys said:
Switch might outsell PS4 by Spring 2018

FTFY

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