It was just a semantics joke lolTrue but if you want to garner the sales ration between PC and PS4 (stemmed from MHW mention) then VC and DD aren't really relevant: they were PS3 games.
Xenoverse 2 hasn't sold 4 million in the west yet unless Black Friday gave it a huge push.
I'm not really expecting much from GTS, but who knows.
Souls is a maybe. I don't think we have the numbers.
The latest Naruto is at 3m ww combined with the Boruto stuff and the franchise is done.
Based on how KH2 sold that's actually questionable.
Tekken 7 is nowhere close to hitting 4 million in the west and I don't think it ever will.
Switch would be MHW's biggest platform yet the game is not even on Switch. Sometimes Capcom makes unfortunate decisions.
Dark Souls. Some similarities:
1. hard. This is obvious
2. multiplayer. Both games are playable as singleplayer, but the best way to play is multiplayer
3. aesthetic. Even though both are Japanese games, they have a rather grounded art style which appeals to a bigger audience in the west.
4. light on story. Both are extremely gameplay focused.
C'mon
RE7 has sold 4.1 and might have a LTD of 6 million. What? PUBG has reached 20 million or so sales. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Re: MH World western sales. I would love for one real indicator/metric besides "all my friends on resetera are going to buy it" that World is primed to break out in the West. And by break out I mean at least double its previous Western sales.
Xenoblade is a prestige series. It exist to be the game that is revered by it fan. There will probably always be a game either from or like the series. Both X and 2 won't exist if this wasn't true. Xenoblade 2 is Nintendo seeing how far it can go in sales. Its success will inform how this series will be positioned in the future.
There also that Nintendo thing. If someone at Nintendo pushes for something hard enough it will exist. Proof: Pikmin and for the opposite: F-zero. Pikmin 3 exist because of Miyamoto, F-Zero doesn't because Nintendo can't find a developer. Metroid is another, SR need a push both in and out of Nintendo. So in a funny twist, the reason Metroid didn't have a game for awhile was because of Other M. Just not because of sales, it was because of the fear that Sakamoto(one of the only producers that want to make a Metroid game) would cause intense backlash. They had kept him away.
I doubt Nintendo won't let Monolithsoft make another Xenoblade if this doesn't make 1m. But they would have to desire to make it.
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| Model | This Week | Week(%) | FY 2017 | FY(%) |
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| 3DS | 986,491 | 74.0% | 6,416,815 | 35.8% |
| PS4 | 153,657 | 11.5% | 5,818,014 | 32.5% |
| Switch| 143,514 | 10.8% | 4,345,417 | 24.2% |
| Wii U | 28,821 | 2.2% | 240,271 | 1.3% |
| Vita | 17,447 | 1.3% | 963,822 | 5.4% |
| PS3 | 3,079 | 0.2% | 126,244 | 0.7% |
| X One | 384 | 0.0% | 12,419 | 0.1% |
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| Total | 1,333,393 | 100.0% | 17,923,002 | 100.0% |
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| Model | This Week | Week(%) | FY 2017 | FY(%) |
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| Switch| 85,069 | 56.9% | 1,681,237 | 45.2% |
| 2DS | 26,990 | 18.0% | 475,813 | 12.8% |
| PS4 | 23,174 | 15.5% | 934,055 | 25.1% |
| 3DS | 11,021 | 7.4% | 467,585 | 12.6% |
| Vita | 2,929 | 2.0% | 144,852 | 3.9% |
| X One | 347 | 0.2% | 3,801 | 0.1% |
| PS3 | 66 | 0.0% | 6,964 | 0.2% |
| Wii U | 23 | 0.0% | 4,107 | 0.1% |
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| Total | 149,619 | 100.0% | 3,718,414 | 100.0% |
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Man, on Dengeki, Gran Turismo Sport can barely outsell an HD remaster of an expansion of a spinoff Monster Hunter game on a system with a lesser install base.
It almost got outsold this week by a year late port of Xenoverse 2 which came out a month earlier than the game. What did Sony do to you...
I think Mantis meant franchise and not single entry.Xenoverse 2 hasn't sold 4 million in the west yet unless Black Friday gave it a huge push.
I'm not really expecting much from GTS, but who knows.
Souls is a maybe. I don't think we have the numbers.
The latest Naruto is at 3m ww combined with the Boruto stuff and the franchise is done.
Based on how KH2 sold that's actually questionable.
Tekken 7 is nowhere close to hitting 4 million in the west and I don't think it ever will.
I should preface that I don't have inside sources. Most of what I talk about is observations and analyzing. But the big thing was timing.I agree with this reasoning in most parts but the part with Sakamoto is a bit confusing. If they had fear of a backlash with Sakamoto being a producer for Metroid, then why he was the producer of Samus Returns?
Monster Hunter World selling 4 million in the West? I am sure there is some universe where that MIGHT be possible, certainly not in this one.
Monster Hunter World PS4 edition on Amazon is currently #260 on on the US games chart.......If people are preordering this game in the West, it is certainly not through Amazon.
On the Amazon Japan charts it is doing much better, but we really have not seen any indication that its going to sell 2, 3 or even 4 million in the West.
The original comment was about games, but even then most of those franchises are hitting 4 million in the west.
No, no. I mean. REAL general like. As in counting ALL Dragon Ball fighting games for the express reason of hitting 4 mil.The original comment was about games, but even then most of those franchises are hitting 4 million in the west.
Rakuten Books Sales Ranking Week 47, 2017 (Nov 20 - Nov 26)
01./00. (003./000.) [3DS] Pokémon Ultra Sun <RPG> (Pokémon Co.)
02./03. (004./004.) [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey <ACT> (Nintendo)
03./02. (005./002.) [3DS] Pokémon Ultra Moon <RPG> (Pokémon Co.)
04./07. (012./014.) [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon Dual Pack <RPG> (Pokémon Co.)
05./04. (013./008.) [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo)
06./00. (015./000.) [PS4] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Future Tone DX (Memorial Pack) <ACT> (Sega)
07./06. (022./013.) [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
08./05. (031./011.) [PS4] Call of Duty: World War II <ACT> (Sony Interactive)
09./10. (032./023.) [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
10./00. (039./000.) [3DS] Beyblade Burst: God <RPG> (FuRyu)
11./00. (053./000.) [PS4] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Future Tone DX <ACT> (Sega)
12./00. (061./000.) [PS4] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 - Deluxe Edition <FTG> (Bandai Namco)
13./08. (084./018.) [PS4] Star Wars: Battlefront II (Deluxe Edition) <ACT> (Electronic Arts)
14./09. (090./020.) [PS4] Star Wars: Battlefront II <ACT> (Electronic Arts)
15./13. (095./037.) [PS4] Assasin's Creed: Origins <ACT> (Ubisoft)
16./11. (103./024.) [NSW] Dragon Quest X: 5000 Year Journey to a Faraway Hometown <RPG> (Square Enix)
17./19. (107./086.) [NSW] Pokkén Tournament DX <FTG> (Pokémon Co.)
18./17. (112./052.) [PS4] ARK: Survival Evolved <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft)
19./21. (119./105.) [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
20./00. (144./000.) [PS4] Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus <ACT> (Bethesda)
ComG! week sales, 2017 (Nov 20 - Nov 26)
01 - [3DS] Pokémon Ultra Moon - 111 pt (- 493 pt)
02 - [3DS] Pokémon Ultra Sun - 101 pt (- 531 pt)
03 - [NSW] Splatoon 2 - 51 pt (+11 pt)
04 - [PS4] Call of Duty World War II - 39 pt (- 23 pt)
05 - [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey - 36 pt (- 2 pt)
06 - [PS4] Hatsune Miku Project DIVA Future Tone DX - 35 pt
07 - [PS4] StarWars Battlefront 2 - 32 pt (- 4 pt)
08 - [3DS] Animal Crossing Amiibo + - 31 pt (+ 23 pt)
09 - [3DS] Dragon Quest XI Passing and Seeking Time - 29 pt (+ 11 pt)
10 - [PS4] Hatsune Miku Project DIVA Future Tone DX Memorial Pack - 28 pt
11 - [3DS] Beyblade Burst God - 25 pt
12 - [3DS] GIRLS MODE 4 Star ☆ Stylist - 17 pt (+ 3 pt)
13 - [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 15 pt (+ 2 pt)
14 - [PS4] Dragon Ball Zenoverse 2 Deluxe Edition - 11 pt
15- [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei DEEP STRANGE JOURNEY (Normal Edition) - 11 pt
16 - [PS4] Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus - 10 pt
17 - [NSW] The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild - Adventure Guide Book & Map ~ - 10 pt
18- [3DS] Pokémon Ultra Sun Ultra Moon Dual Pack - 8 pt (- 246 pt)
19 - [PSV] Earth Defense Force 2 PORTABLE V2 (B version) - 7 pt
20 - [PS4] ARK: Survival Evolved - 7 pt (+ 1 pt)
ComG! week sales, 2017 (Nov 13 - Nov 19)
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Reasons to launch big update this holiday:
- Holiday Sales: Splatoon 2 is the biggest Switch game in Japan and hasn't done too badly in the West. November and December are two months where its' expected for Nintendo to sell around 40-50% of Switches during 2017. With Splatoon 2 being potentially the best selling game of the year in Japan and Nintendo's barren December schedule(X2 and Zelda DLC) a major update for Splatoon 2 will be a great thing that will provide them free marketing(news articles, social media feeds of new footage captured after the update, some new ads, etc
- Subscription Service launching next year: outside of Splatoon 2, Nintendo has two online multiplayer games MK8D and Arms. Arms is getting post launch support but has shipped only about 1/3 of what Splatoon 2 has, while there haven't been any new DLC plans announced for MK8D even is it continues to sell at an extremely rapid pace. Since it's unlikely that Nintendo has another major multiplayer focused game launching in Q1 2018 they would need to push their online subscriptions via the existing library of games out of which MK8D and Splatoon 2 are the biggest titles. Unlike MK8D Splatoon 2 doesn't provide local multiplayer on the go unless you have multiple Switches and thus the online sub service will need to be pushed by Splatoon 2.
not really, they just wanted to wait to see where the next portable entry would make senseEven if Switch eventually gets some form of Monster Hunter it is abundantly clear that it was not part of the original roadmap for the franchise so yes Capcom was ready and willing to abandon the Japanese fanbase.
we have to remember mh:w was greenlit at a time when ps4 seemed to be the next platform coming off huge western sales and also decent sales in japan, it was definitely made to expand its fanbase in the west
capcom would be happy if it sold 3-4m in the west and 1m or so in japan
it is mainline in the way dqx and ffxiv is mainline, to help sell the game, the main game thats going to sell in japan will come to switch, there is no way they abandon this portable fanbase
can't really blame capcom for believing in the ps4, most third parties did. what you can fault them for is not adding a switch sku knowing the 3ds wasn't an option and they had early knowledge of the switch's existence, they knew it was going to be the next portable
to this point ill extend it to every other third party, it is absurd to think nintendo would screw up their next portable console given their track record, especially when they're dedicating everything they have to this one console, failure really was no option for nintendo and third parties should have been on board the moment they had knowledge of it
not really, they just wanted to wait to see where the next portable entry would make sense
they didn't know whether the 3ds or the next nintendo portable made more sense
in the meantime the ps4 was a huge success in the west, so they thought why not? while they wait and see what happens with the portable entry
why would they abandon the japanese fanbase, the main selling fanbase for the game in japan? it makes no sense at all
That should tell you all you need to know. X was still a single player game all the wayhere's a thought I've had about Xenoblade 2 post Dragon Questi 11. given that it's an rpg, sales are probably gonna be pretty damn front-loaded. Zelda is a bit odd to me with its legs despite being a single player game. DQ11's fell off relatively quickly for a number of reasons, but I think being a single player game is a big cause. with no multiplayer component, there're not many ways to retain value and keep people from reselling the game upon completion. I wonder if Xenoblade 2 will suffer the same fate and if MonolithSoft's next game will be more co-operative (or competitive) focused and not suffer the same issues. they are hiring online programmers much like they did in the run up to Xenoblade X, after all
you sure as hell wouldnt be able to tell that from the game design. it was like they went 99% of the way and stopped just short of letting you run around/team up with other people in a game world. the way loot drops worked, the character customization, the stat customization, the design of NLA, the way quests were doled out, etc. it was a prototype MMO and it'll be hard to convince me otherwise that someone wasn't thinking of MMOs when they pivoted towards online play. the co-op bosses were nice and all, and the ability to recruit other people's characters was cool, but damn, they should have gone whole hog.That should tell you all you need to know. X was still a single player game all the way
you sure as hell wouldnt be able to tell that from the game design. it was like they went 99% of the way and stopped just short of letting you run around/team up with other people in a game world. the way loot drops worked, the character customization, the stat customization, the design of NLA, the way quests were doled out, etc. it was a prototype MMO and it'll be hard to convince me otherwise that someone wasn't thinking of MMOs when they pivoted towards online play. the co-op bosses were nice and all, and the ability to recruit other people's characters was cool, but damn, they should have gone whole hog.
Xenoblade X is why I'm almost adamant that their medieval game is a successor to it in the same way XC2 is to XC1. I'm cant predict how this hypothetical game will turn out sales wise, but I'd like to believe that a proper online focus would help the game's legs. not necessarily a DQ9 style of legs, but persistence in the sales charts
I'm not sure it would have been like MonHun. granted NLA is a far larger hub than in any MH game (maybe even World from what little we've seen of the new hub). and combine that with the ability to move in and out of it freely was reminiscent of FF14 (my only frame of reference with MMOs). granted this could also have been due to the fact that the game was still primarily single player. if they did go full MMO-ish, NLA might have been segmentedIwata Asks (RIP) on XCX touched this aspect. Their goal from the start seem to be a single player game with a degree of online interaction rather than a full MMO.
If fleshed out, I think the online component would be more similar to MonHun than an MMO.
their cyber monday starts on 8th until 11th dec for some reason. can't remember if it's the same case in previous yearsIs Amazon (Japan) not doing Cyber Monday this year? I went to check for deals, but I see nothing special going on.
Thanks. Strange I feel it used to be right after US Thanksgiving.their cyber monday starts on 8th until 11th dec for some reason. can't remember if it's the same case in previous years
https://www.amazon.co.jp/b/?node=39...748-c763eb63de6b&pf_rd_r=PKBNKAP6S27QZ2FRZBV9
I remember Takahashi admitted to X being only considered a AA title which is fucking unbelievable, I mean, what would a AAA title from him be like? O_o
Wonder if it would be smart to ape Destiny with XCX2.
Seems like they were going for something similar but Monolith dropped the ball.
Needs more online/GAAS functionality to differentiate itself from the normal Xenoblade franchise. It's just a XC game with a bad story and a worse structure
funny you should say that :PIf they want a destiny feel they need to just go real time in the combat. XCX is like an overly complicated single player MMO that wouldn't be fun to play in a Destiny team up style as is. Just make it a real time action game if that's the audience they want.
Good goodDunno if this was posted, but Games Maya is saying Xenoblade 2 is currently their #1 pre-ordered game.
I wish it were an actual, real indication of things to come but isn't it just a single store?
I wish it were an actual, real indication of things to come but isn't it just a single store?