Media Create Sales: Week 48, 2017 (Nov 27 - Dec 03)

Deleted member 2791 · Dec 6, 2017

KingSnake said:
Look at it like this: Xenoblade 2 won't probably be even closer to 1-2-Switch at the end of the day and will fight to death with ARMS, two less Japan-centric new IPs Launching in the best possible moment and on the best possible console.

Sure, you might be happy with that, but in the end, except for outstanding legs in the following weeks it will remain one of the weakest selling first party series.

That's an incredibly uninformed take and only another evidence that all you're really looking for is finding any possible way to spite on a game that seemingly murdered your dog.

1-2 Switch outsold the vast majority of big japanese releases and, does it means they're all failures ?

HeRinger · Dec 6, 2017

skittzo0413 said:
I'm not a part of the Japanese audience but what's holding me back from liking the Xenoblade series is 100% the combat system. If they change it up to be a bit more accessible and less obtuse for the next game in the series (which is likely taking a back seat to their new IP) that might help it grow a bit more.

That might be one of the reasons for the lack of interest in Japan, I guess.

I hope they double down on the combat system, though. I think it's the best in the genre.

OfficerRaichu15 · Dec 6, 2017

Well Famitusu has Switch at 150k at least lol.

Gotdatmoney · Dec 6, 2017

schuelma said:
People, what on Earth were you expecting for Xenoblade 2 FW? 200K or something?

Eh I think for 1 people wanted to see it crack 100k. But more so the series has been on hardware well outside its prime life or hardware that was just plain dead and iy still launched around 80-85k. The conditions for XC2 are much healthier and the final outcome week 1 is only a little bit better. I think people wanted to see moderate growth.

This week 1 mostly confirms the series isn't really ever going to expand to a great degree. And that's factoring in XC1 had really good legs.

Mory Dunz · Dec 6, 2017

arms still living

Zelas · Dec 6, 2017

OfficerRaichu15 said:
Y'all 97k isn't bad. It's gonna surely be above 100k with digital(plus wait for famitusu with the download cards).

It aint bad it its nothing more than "ok." This game has much more going for it compared to XCX. Primarily being a holiday release during a week where its popular host console sold 125k. You'd also think being a developer now being owned by Nintendo would bring a boost to sales too but each of these Xenoblade launches have underperformed compared to what Monolith Soft used to see with their last big series.

I think it's time to move on from Xenoblade. Or maybe pass it on to a smaller dev while Monolith focuses on something new.

Chris1964 · Dec 6, 2017

Famitsu has Switch with expected increase WOW but not anything big.

KingSnake · Dec 6, 2017

schuelma said:
So you're just ignoring the history of the series in Japan basically.

It was always said that the previous games had a bad timing on Wii and launched on a almost dead Wii U and that hurt their sales.

If you consider those non-factors then yeah it's quite a niche series.

MagnesG · Dec 6, 2017

Average FW for Xeno2. It's legs would be interesting to see.

DarkDetective · Dec 6, 2017

Code:

02./00. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 97.274 / NEW <60-80%>

<60-80%> means supply contraints are limited to select stores. XBX had a 72% FW sellthrough according to Media Create (!). This looks similar.

casiopao · Dec 6, 2017

Encephalon said:
Hopefully this means any potential XB3 isn't required to have trashy main character designs.

......the only thing u can take from this sales is that they are going to push even more waifus lol considering this is the best opening for the series in jp lol.

Prepare urself for moar fanservice just like old xenosaga lol.

Xita · Dec 6, 2017

Nice sales for XB2. Seeing lots of overreactions in here when it had the best debut in the series. I'm sure Nintendo is pretty happy with that.

Also riiiiiiiiise Splatoon 2

Skittzo · Dec 6, 2017

Oh wow Famitsu has Switch up WoW. Let's assume they're right this time :D

hiska-kun said:
Switch vs 3DS

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------------------------------------------------------------- | | Nintendo 3DS | Nintendo Switch | Difference | | | (2011/02/26) | (2017/03/03) | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | NSW - 3DS | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| | 38| 103.962|2.460.877| 86.999|2.252.328| -208.549| | 39| 96.219|2.557.096| 145.200|2.397.528| -159.568| | 40| 120.920|2.678.016| 124.770|2.522.298| -155.718| | 41| 205.962|2.883.978| | | | | 42| 350.321|3.234.299| | | | | 43| 367.691|3.601.990| | | | | 44| 482.200|4.084.191| | | | | 45| 197.952|4.282.143| | | | | 46| 240.819|4.522.961| | | | | 47| 100.668|4.623.630| | | | | 48| 80.960|4.704.590| | | | | 49| 84.789|4.789.379| | | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Thank you! This is what I was waiting on, Switch still gained a bit of ground on 3DS but not nearly as much as I'd hoped. I guess beating the 3DS's first calendar year is now far out of reach.

KingSnake · Dec 6, 2017

02./00. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 97.274 / NEW <60-80%>

Famitsu doesn't seem to paint a better image. 60-80% is pretty normal.

Deleted member 9971 · Dec 6, 2017

Encephalon said:
The Switch surely doesn't have a bigger install base than the Wii did in 2010, when Xenoblade released, does it?

Well the Xenoblade 1 release was kinda a mess all around in the USA (store exclusive, and way later then EU), i have read that it was pirated over a million times too wich is quite alot, altho the wii was so easy to mod/homebrew tho but it could have been a factor too.

Raijinto · Dec 6, 2017

Lady Lunalesca said:
Considering how Big the Switch is in Japan and this being a niche IP one would think it would at least give it a 120-150k debut. Saying it sold more than the last 2 means little to me when it can't even hit 100k still when all is said and done.

So 120k would've been good but 97k is "tanked".

Yeah. You're onto something here...

Revolsin · Dec 6, 2017

Okay, the optimism's staying, and I'm gonna make a bold early prediction here.

XC2 is gonna have very real legs, at least for next week. Less than -60% drop.

Hard committing on this.

schuelma · Dec 6, 2017

Switch hardware up on famitsu

Lady Lunalesca · Dec 6, 2017

Gotdatmoney said:
Eh I think for 1 people wanted to see it crack 100k. But more so the series has been on hardware well outside its prime life or hardware that was just plain dead and iy still launched around 80-85k. The conditions for XC2 are much healthier and the final outcome week 1 is only a little bit better. I think people wanted to see moderate growth.

This week 1 mostly confirms the series isn't really ever going to expand to a great degree. And that's factoring in XC1 had really good legs.

This

DarkDetective · Dec 6, 2017

skittzo0413 said:
Thank you! This is what I was waiting on, Switch still gained a bit of ground on 3DS but not nearly as much as I'd hoped. I guess beating the 3DS's first calendar year is now far out of reach.

Only 3k with a bunch of huge 3DS weeks to come... I'm afraid we'll see the gap widening over the next couple of weeks.
Don't disappoint us, Nintendo :)

Deleted member 2791 · Dec 6, 2017

22./22. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} (¥6.800) - 3.139 / 58.236 <80-100%> (+23%)

Hanging there.

KingSnake · Dec 6, 2017

LordKano said:
That's an incredibly uninformed take and only another evidence that all you're really looking for is finding any possible way to spite on a game that seemingly murdered your dog.

1-2 Switch outsold the vast majority of big japanese releases and, does it means they're all failures ?

I'm talking about 1st party games. What are you talking about?

Also uncalled comment about my dead dog.

Łazy · Dec 6, 2017

Encephalon said:
Hopefully this means any potential XB3 isn't required to have trashy main character designs.

Doesn't mean much. Each 3 games had pretty different "art style" when it comes to characters and they all sold more or less the same.
I'm pretty sure Monolithsoft will just do what they think is good for their projects (as long as they have freedom) and that's it.
I guess the chara design of Xenoblade 2 is kinda common, but compared to people who dislike Rex's outfit, I actually like it a lot, because it's closely tied to the story.
A good thing would be that his "full" suit or even another type, just to have a second choice, could be available for people who are not fan, but beside that...

Anyway, Xeno 2's number is most certainly hindered by th lack of stock for both the console and the game I think.

EarthPainting · Dec 6, 2017

These first week sales are fine for a Xenoblade game in Japan, but it does kind of leave me wondering. What would it have to do to break past it. It's not like they don't have an RPG audience over there. I'd say it's perhaps time for Monolith to ditch the "Xeno" branding and battle system, and see if they can do better without it. However, I recall Soma Bringer and Baten Kaitos doing around 100k LTD too. Not sure how I'd proceed if I were in their shoes. At least we know they're working on a new IP going by the artwork they've been showing.

Comic Obsessed · Dec 6, 2017

DarkDetective said:
Code:

02./00. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 97.274 / NEW <60-80%>

<60-80%> means supply contraints are limited to select stores. XBX had a 72% FW sellthrough according to Media Create (!). This looks similar.

Well, that's that then. It sold as much as it could.

schuelma · Dec 6, 2017

LordKano said:
Hanging there.

I bet it hits 100K when all is said and done.

Encephalon · Dec 6, 2017

casiopao said:
......the only thing u can take from this sales is that they are going to push even more waifus lol considering this is the best opening for the series in jp lol.

Prepare urself for moar fanservice just like old xenosaga lol.

I'm repeating myself, but I don't think it's enough of an increase to be attributed to the designs. It's more or less in line with previous entries. If only we could go back to the days of Xenosaga Ep. III. I remember when people were upset with Shion's new outfit. What innocent times.

I think the boob cannons borderline ruin some decent scenes

marc^o^ · Dec 6, 2017

Noone expected Zelda to have such legs, it's pretty incredible. May very well reach a million, with Wii U version combined.

XB2 had the best opening of the series, and will probably have far better legs than its predecessors (previous versions didn't release on a short supplied, 9 months old platform, just before holiday season gears up).

DarkDetective · Dec 6, 2017

Lady Lunalesca said:
Considering how Big the Switch is in Japan and this being a niche IP one would think it would at least give it a 120-150k debut. Saying it sold more than the last 2 means little to me when it can't even hit 100k still when all is said and done.

I wanted to correct you, but then I remembered anything below 200k is niche :P

Killingmoon · Dec 6, 2017

Encephalon said:
Hopefully this means any potential XB3 isn't required to have trashy main character designs.

Lol no. XB 2 being the best seller in the series so far would most probably mean they're looking to add more, not subtract. If that means more pandering and fanservice designs, all the better.

Zedark · Dec 6, 2017

XBC2 increase was less than I'd hopen, but to call it a disappointment is a bit much. Still, hope it will leg it out the way XB1 did (or even better), as it deserves good sales imo. That said, it is a strange project, with many outsourced devs working on it, so I wonder what's up with that, and if it was conceived as an entry that wouldn't necessarily growth the franchise too much but focus on the established audience.

Grads · Dec 6, 2017

hiska-kun said:

Mario Odyssey vs Mario 3D Land

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|    |Super Mario 3D Land|Super Mario Odyssey|  Difference  | 

|    | [3DS] (2011/11/03)| [NSW] (2017/10/27)|              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |  SMO – SM3DL | 

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

|  1 |  343.492|  343.492|  462.038|  462.038|       118.546|

|  2 |   93.441|  436.933|  116.931|  578.969|       142.036|

|  3 |   62.318|  499.250|   73.315|  652.284|       153.034|

|  4 |   61.710|  560.960|   62.024|  714.308|       153.348|

|  5 |   73.907|  634.868|   77.751|  792.059|       157.191|

|  6 |   89.743|  724.611|   61.596|  853.654|              |

|  7 |  112.533|  837.143|         |         |              |

|  8 |  174.566|1.011.709|         |         |              |

|  9 |   68.483|1.080.192|         |         |              |

| 10 |  119.093|1.199.285|         |         |              |

| 11 |   40.154|1.239.440|         |         |              |

| 12 |   26.051|1.265.491|         |         |              |

|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Click to shrink...

The latest SMO vs SM3DL difference is missing

Anyways, Xenoblade did ok. Better opening both than the previous xenoblades in Japan and UK so far.

Skittzo · Dec 6, 2017

DarkDetective said:
Only 3k with a bunch of huge 3DS weeks to come... I'm afraid we'll see the gap widening over the next couple of weeks.
Don't disappoint us, Nintendo :)

Yeah I can't see the Switch with a 480k+ week. But you never know I guess...

HeRinger said:
That might be one of the reasons for the lack of interest in Japan, I guess.

I hope they double down on the combat system, though. I think it's the best in the genre.

I think it's by far the worst of any JRPG I've ever played, but hey that's what opinions are for!

I just wish I could play all the Xenoblade games with Baten Kaitos' combat system... now that was a fantastic combat system.

Pokémon · Dec 6, 2017

Switch hardware number is a bit disappointing not gonna lie, was expecting around 200k.

I am curious how Xenoblade 2 numbers will look like next week.

Chris1964 · Dec 6, 2017

Attack on Titan 2 the bomb of the week, expected but apparently not from retailers.

Jenoss · Dec 6, 2017

Switch numbers are great, Xc2 not soo much..
Hope it will keep selling on next weeks

Mark H · Dec 6, 2017

LordKano said:
Hanging there.

Bandai Namco's been actually airing XV2 TV ads for sometime now since November.
Kind of weird they're promoting it again this late, but they probably just want to squeeze a bit more out of it from holiday sales.

Vishmarx · Dec 6, 2017

Comic Obsessed said:
We still got a game that is vastly better than previous entries so even if "the waifus" helped to get some sales at least they made people try an amazing game.

I dont care if they keep the waifus but no way in hell is it better than the first unless it pulls a miracle in the second half and magically fixes everything. Ive only completed ch5

Oniletter · Dec 6, 2017

Lady Lunalesca said:
Xenoblade 2 tanked as predicted.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Edit: Your post history is incredibly revealing, I must say.

Dark Cloud · Dec 6, 2017

Xenoblade doing better in UK and Japan bodes well for America.

Marmoka · Dec 6, 2017

So there's a lack of stock again for Switch in Japan? What the hell?

Media Create Switch: 124.770
Famitsu Switch: 150.583
...
I don't know what to think about this, haha

Heart_Attack · Dec 6, 2017

The Switch is hot in Japan and Xeno 2 was more in line with classic JRPG designs yet it sold pretty average. I expected at least 120-130K.

Comic Obsessed · Dec 6, 2017

Vishmarx said:
I dont care if they keep the waifus but no way in hell is it better than the first unless it pulls a miracle in the second half and magically fixes everything. Ive only completed ch5

I've been loving it much more than the original. The battle system is more exciting due that I don't have to navigate menus while I'm on it and the characters are much more entertaining. The story engages me in ways that the original didn't as well.

Psycho_Mantis · Dec 6, 2017

DarkDetective said:
I wanted to correct you, but then I remembered anything below 200k is niche :P

Works out doesn't it?

silpheed-mcd · Dec 6, 2017

schuelma said:
People, what on Earth were you expecting for Xenoblade 2 FW? 200K or something?

It's time!

:p

Media-Create first week sales:
02./00. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 97.732 / NEW

And Media-create first week sales winners are...

Grads: 100.000
Qubie: 100.000
Ryng Manuel Tolu: 100.000
skullwaker: 100.000
Stealth: 100.000

Congratulations guys! :)

Momo, momo, momo...
Momo: 97.000 - 211.000 (rectified: 111.000 - 211.000)

:'(

Famitsu first week sales:
02./00. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 97.274 / NEW <60-80%>

And Famitsu first week sales winners are...

Charamiwa: 95.000
Deku: 95.000
Piston: 95.000
RailWays: 95.000
SinCityAssassin: 95.000

Congratulations guys! :)

PREDICTIONS
XENOBLADE 2 SWITCH, FIRST WEEK SALES, 2017 (Nov 27 - Dec 3) AND END OF YEAR, 2017 (Dec 25 - Dec 31)

Arynio: 120.000 - 230.000
Alblowi: 112.000 - 212.000
Astrogamer: 115.000 - 185.000
byDos: 80.000 - 150.000
Cantaim: 75.000 - 110.000
Cartridge Games: 120.000 - 180.000
casiopao: 110.000 - 240.000
CaviarMeths: 104.000 - 178.000
CeroMiedo: 90.000 - 300.000
Charamiwa: 95.000 - 140.000
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule: 102.000 - 180.000
DarkDetective: 75.000 - 130.000
Deku: 95.000 - 165.000
DrWong: 130.000 - 192.000
Dunban: 107.000 - 180.000
Elfteiroh: 118.000 -165.000
Extreme Kiwami: 120.000 - 170.000
ggx2ac: 112.000 - 174.000
Gotdatmoney: 120.000 - 220.000
Grads: 100.000 - 170.000
Herb Alpert: 135.000 - 245.000
ika: 115.000 - 250.000
ILikeFeet: 75.000 - 120.000
James: 205.000 - 282.000
JamesRainbowBoy: 80.000 - 115.000
Jonno394: 60.000 - 90.000
Kaitos: 115.000 - 170.000
Kanann: 120.000 - 150.000
Kumikomical: 85.000 - ?
KuwabaraTheMan: 155.000 - 235.000
Limabean01: 80.000 - 210.000 (rectified: 110.000 - 200.000)
Lilo_D: 70.000 - ?
Lizardus: 92.339 - 152.339
LordKano: 120.000 - 160.000
MANUELF: 110.000 - 160.000
Momo: 97.000 - 211.000 (rectified: 111.000 - 211.000)
Monorojo: 200.000 - 450.000
Nintendojitsu: 135.000 - ?
Nitejohn: 200.000 - 450.000
Nocturnal: 145.000 - 250.000
Piston: 95.000 - 155.000
Qubie: 100.000 - 200.000
RailWays: 95.000 - 155.000
rAndom: 150.000 - 200.000
Ryng Manuel Tolu: 100.000 - 170.000
rzmunch: 140.000 - 200.000
SemRockWel: 75.000 - 120.000
sfortunato: 115.000 - 200.000
SinCityAssassin: 95.000 - 185.000
sinonobu: 90.000 - 199.000
Sire Yoshi: 220.000 - 460.000
skullwaker: 100.000 - 150.000
Smiles: 240.000 - 380.000
Stealth: 100.000 - ?
Tribal_Cult: 90.000 - ?
UmbriaPauly: 132.000 - 210.000
Umibozu: 75.000 - 135.000
Waddles the Piggu: 141.000 - 176.000
Welfare: 105.000 - 191.000
WestEgg: 130.000 - 210.000
Yeshua: 130.000 - 220.000
Zakeryo: 80.000 - 120.000
Zedark: 110.000 - 165.000 (rectified: 130.000 - 210.000)

Reki · Dec 6, 2017

casiopao said:
We need Tharja and Lucina for Xeno Awakening to make it sell better in the future?

I was about to say that Xenoblade needed its "Awakening" moment. On the other hand, if XC2 exploded in sales Monolith could think that waifus and sexualized designs are the key to good sales.

Hoping they'll try a different approach next time.

Nocturnal · Dec 6, 2017

SMO is pretty much selling the same amount as SM3DLdid during week 47:

Code:

Week 47 2011: Super Mario 3D Land - 61.710 / 560.960 (-1%)
Week 48 2011: Super Mario 3D Land - 73.907 / 634.868 (+20%)
Week 49 2011: Super Mario 3D Land - 89.743 / 724.611 (+21%)
Week 50 2011: Super Mario 3D Land - 112.533 / 837.143 (+25%)
Week 51 2011: Super Mario 3D Land - 174,566 / 1,011,709 (+55%)
Week 52 2011: Super Mario 3D Land - 68.483 / 1.080.192 (-61%)

Week 47 2017: Super Mario Odyssey - 61.596 / 853.654 (-21%)

Code:

Week 46 2011:
3DS HW - 96.219
3DS SW - 62.318

Week 47 2011:
3DS HW - 205.962(+114%)
3DS SW - 497.526(+698%)

Week 48 2011:
3DS HW - 350.321(+70%)
3DS SW - 795.536(+59%)

- MK7 Launched Week 47
- MH3G Launched Week 48

Code:

Week 46 2017:
Switch HW - 145.200
Switch SW - 150.152

Week 47 2017:
Switch HW - 124.770(-14%)
Switch SW - 259.164(+72%)

Overall disappointing week for Switch hardware and software. Next week needs to at least double hardware numbers.

CeroMiedo · Dec 6, 2017

casiopao said:
We need Tharja and Lucina for Xeno Awakening to make it sell better in the future?

Xenofates and Xenoechoes will even make things better

KingSnake said:
It was always said that the previous games had a bad timing on Wii and launched on a almost dead Wii U and that hurt their sales.

If you consider those non-factors then yeah it's quite a niche series.

Just sayin',Xeno 3D was a launch title for the New 3ds and that one still tanked.I don't get it,this is a growth for the series and some people still acted like Nintendo is going third party because of that game for some reasons

Skittzo · Dec 6, 2017

Marmoka said:
So there's a lack of stock again for Switch in Japan? What the hell?

Media Create Switch: 124.770
Famitsu Switch: 150.583
...
I don't know what to think about this, haha

There's been a lack of stock since March 3rd, all stock has been selling out immediately all year. That's not the shocking thing here, the shocking thing should be the dropoff from last week (according to MC anyway).

Aostia82 · Dec 6, 2017

skittzo0413 said:
Very strange that Nintendo would ship less for a launch week of a major title than the week before... I guess it's probably best to lower our expectations on what they are able to produce for the holiday season.

I agree

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