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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2019 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)

fiendcode

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Oregano said:
I looked up Claytechworks and they are the developer of Fairy Effect
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They're likely what became of the original Bravely team after Silicon Studio decided to get out of gamedev and sold their games unit to Creek and River. Claytechworks actually lists C&R as their lone major shareholder and they were established in 2018.
 

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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2019 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)

01./01. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980)
02./05. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} (¥5.980)
03./07. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980)
04./08. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200)
05./06. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield Dual Pack {Pokemon Sword \ Pokemon Shield} <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥11.960)
06./09. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980)
07./10. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980)
08./00. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} (¥5.980)
09./00. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 <SPT> (Sega) {2019.11.01} (¥5.990)
10./00. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600)

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Chris1964

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Sandfox said:
I'm guessing them calling it BD2 means they will push it harder than they did Bravely Second, which was the big complaint at the time.
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SE was obsessed with only AAA and mobile at that period.

[3DS] Bravely Default - 1.400.000
[3DS] Bravely Second: End Layer - 700.000
 
Eien1no1Yami

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The series before the release had 3.8 shipments so the new game added another 200000 to that, which is pretty good.
Now the word shipments is kinda weird tbh but I still think it's copies sold.
 
MegaXZero

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Eien1no1Yami said:

The series before the release had 3.8 shipments so the new game added another 200000 to that, which is pretty good.
Now the word shipments is kinda weird tbh but I still think it's copies sold.
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I mean if the PR says shipments, it's shipped (+ maybe digital day 1?) not sold at retail.

I wonder how it's doing sales wise.
 
Oregano

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fiendcode said:
They're likely what became of the original Bravely team after Silicon Studio decided to get out of gamedev and sold their games unit to Creek and River. Claytechworks actually lists C&R as their lone major shareholder and they were established in 2018.
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Ahh that would make sense and explain why the trailers just gave a generic Bravely Default credit.
 
Sandfox

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200k is honestly a smaller shipment than I was expecting, though that's probably more on me. Now we need to see sellthrough.

Better than V though lol.
 
Eien1no1Yami

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Sandfox said:
200k is honestly a smaller shipment than I was expecting, though that's probably more on me. Now we need to see sellthrough.

Better than V though lol.
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The game was definitely pushed a lot by Sega.
Lots of colabs with shops, ads e.t.c.

Personally of by next week it somehow reaches 200000 sellthrough I will be verry happy.
Now if sellthough is more like 170000-180000 it's still ok for the series but not as exciting.

Also the franchise in general is a multimedia franchise.It's not just the games that sell, there are many other goods
that fans will buy.Accessories, blu rays, concert tickets, stage play tickets, music tracks.
That's why it's an important franchise to Sega :)
 
Hero of Legend

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On another note, Samurai Shodown is now out on Switch, and the port was by Safari Games who also did Super Dragon Balls World Mission on Switch.

 
MegaXZero

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Eien1no1Yami said:
The game was definitely pushed a lot by Sega.
Lots of colabs with shops, ads e.t.c.

Personally of by next week it somehow reaches 200000 sellthrough I will be verry happy.
Now if sellthough is more like 170000-180000 it's still ok for the series but not as exciting.
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I think it can do it. Presumably the shipment could be between 200-300k so it's definitely possible for it to reclaim it's old luster. I think the hype is there.

Will the blog post first day sell through for it? Although lately that metric has been a bit poor with some games.
 
hiska-kun

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First Day Sell-through {2019.12.12}

[PS4] New Sakura Taisen # <ACT> (Sega) (¥8.800) - 50%

[PS4] Control <ACT> (Marvelous) (¥6.800) - 40%
 
Lite_Agent

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Nintendo eShop Sales: December 5th to December 11th 2019

Nintendo eShop – Nintendo Switch

01./01. – Pokémon Sword (The Pokémon Company) [15.11.2019]
02./02. – Pokémon Shield (The Pokémon Company) [15.11.2019]
03./12. – Futari de! Nyanko Dai Sensou (Ponos) [20.12.2018]
04./13. – Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo) [07.12.2018]
05./18. – Human Fall Flat (Teyon Japan) [28.12.2017]
06./New. – Star Ocean -First Departure R- (Square-Enix) [05.12.2019]
07./14. – Minecraft (Mojang / Microsoft Japan) [21.6.2018]
08./New. – Tools Up! (All in! Games) [05.12.2019]
09./16. – Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) [28.4.2017]
10./New. – Yo-kai Watch 4++ (Level-5) [05.12.2019] (launch discount, currently 10% off)
11./19. – The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) [03.3.2017]
12./15. – Luigi's Mansion 3 (Nintendo) [31.10.2019]
13./00. – The First Tree (David Wehle) [29.11.2018]
14./20. – Undertale (8-4) [15.9.2018]
15./00. – ACA NeoGeo Samurai Shodown II (Hamster) [01.2.2018] (currently 50% off)
16./00. – ACA NeoGeo Samurai Shodown III (Hamster) [05.4.2018] (currently 50% off)
17./03. – Romancing SaGa 3 (Square-Enix) [11.11.2019]
18./New. – Tick Tock: A Tale for Two (Other Tales Interactive) [05.12.2019]
19./New. – Monster Rancher (Koei-Tecmo) [19.12.2019]
20./00. – Hollow Knight (Team Cherry) [13.6.2018]

Nintendo eShop – Nintendo 3DS

01./02. – The Battle Cats POP! (Ponos) [31.5.2015]
02./01. – Pokémon Crystal Version (Nintendo, Virtual Console) [26.1.2018]
03./00. – Tales of the Abyss (Bandai-Namco) [03.12.2014] (currently on sale for 1 980 Yen)
04./05. – Minecraft: New Nintendo 3DS (Microsoft Japan) [14.9.2017]
05./04. – Dragon Quest III: The Seeds of Salvation (Square-Enix) [24.8.2017]
06./03. – Adventure Bar Story (Rideon Japan) [25.6.2014] (was 50% off)
07./00. – Pokémon Yellow Version Special Pikachu Edition (Nintendo) [27.2.2016]
08./00. – Pokémon Silver Version (Nintendo) [22.9.2017]
09./00. – Kutar Burger Factory (Flyhigh Works) [03.8.2016] (currently 50% off)
10./10. – Pokémon Red Version (Nintendo) [27.2.2016]


Maybe Level-5 should've asked Nintendo to include YW4++ in the vouchers. And if not for the inevitable holiday sales, wouldn't be surprised to see Pokémon stay at the top until January.
 

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200k is a good number for Sakura Taisen imo.
The series has never done that big for its mainline games' sales and we also have to take into account shrinking Japanese market.
 
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Hm I could believe there is a correlation between decreasing Splatoon 2 sales and the introduction of Nintendo Switch Online if there is enough evidence to support this correlation, but this belief comes from my own bias. However I cannot believe there is a causation. There's already a few major confounds that are pretty much impossible to eliminate (and no, no amount of personal bias, no matter how heavy, can eliminate them).

I also would not call Sony 'stupid' for focusing on the future success of Playstation business instead of pushing for, in my opinion, a metric that's less important for profits than it is for console warring.
 
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hiska-kun said:
First Day Sell-through {2019.12.12}

[PS4] New Sakura Taisen # <ACT> (Sega) (¥8.800) - 50%
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If 200k is shipment + digital first day, FW retail number should be in the ~100k range, give or take 20k.
Also this is how Sakura Taisen V opened 14 years ago

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1. Sakura Taisen V (Sega, PS2): 111.771
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1. Sakura Taisen V (Sega, PS2): 96.282
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This is kind of the expected number imo, Sega Saturn sales numbers were never going to come back, something a bit up from STV (150k) and not too far from STIII (300k) is how most mid-range JRPG should hope to reach on PS4, now Sega probably hopes western sales will skyrocket (not a hard thing to achieve) because otherwise it's not realy worth it.
 
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Fisico said:
If 200k is shipment + digital first day, FW retail number should be in the ~100k range, give or take 20k.
Also this is how Sakura Taisen V opened 14 years ago

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This is kind of the expected number imo, Sega Saturn sales numbers were never going to come back, something a bit up from STV (150k) and not too far from STIII (300k) is how most mid-range JRPG should hope to reach on PS4, now Sega probably hopes western sales will skyrocket (not a hard thing to achieve) because otherwise it's not realy worth it.
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It's pretty much impossible for there to not be growth in the west, but it not having a dub limits it a bit.
 
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Bravely Default 2 is going to be an interesting release sales wise. Octopath Traveler did pretty good and Bravely has the same kind of style. It could show some real growth compared to Bravely Default and also surpass Octopath Traveler if it's ambitious enough.
 
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It's pretty much impossible for there to not be growth in the west, but it not having a dub limits it a bit.
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Well yes, it's pretty obvious, releasing a PS2 in 2010 in the USA was never going to make big numbers and iirc the Wii SKU didn't even outsold it (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
The EMEA release was Wii only and on a budget price (40€) and despite that price quickly went down to 20 so yeah...
No hard number but it had to be very low.
 
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Limited Edition of New Sakura Wars was very popular at pre-orders, expect sales to be very frontloaded.
 
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January 30th for next Nintendo financials. Lots of updates coming.

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Halo Picross exclusively for Nintendo Switch
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We've had this, so this wouldn't surprise me anymore:

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I'm guessing them calling it BD2 means they will push it harder than they did Bravely Second, which was the big complaint at the time.
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That title is as close as we're going to get for Squeenix admitting they royally messed up with Bravely Second.
 
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Bravely II is releasing next year. If Square wanted to devote resources for remaking the first two it would be done by now.
 
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Bravely II is releasing next year. If Square wanted to devote resources for remaking the first two it would be done by now.
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Yeah, would've have been announced at the same time too, just like Bayo 1 & 2 were announced alongside 3. Unless they're saving it for the inevitable January Direct, which would be the last possible place to announce them.

Honestly think it could happen, if only because I can totally see Squeenix jumping on the occasion to later port them to PC
 
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Dengeki:

This week
  • Pokémon Sword: 100 594 units sold (939 783 units LTD); 119 000 units w. Dual-Pack, 1 282 000 units LTD w. Dual Pack
  • Pokémon Shield: 66 569 units sold (639 858 units LTD); 85 000 unitsw. the Dual-Pack, 982 000 units LTD w. Dual Pack
  • Dual Pack: 18 463 units sold (342 339 units LTD).
  • LTD: 2 264 000
Previous Pokémon games during 1st month:
  • Pokémon X and Y: 2.96 million units
  • Pokémon Sun and Moon: 3.30 million units
  • Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire: 2.16 million units
Pokémon games on 3DS: about 70% of LTD sales during 1st month. If similar ratio for Pokémon Sword and Shield: 3.32m LTD (retail-only, of course)

Fiscal Year, as of November (April 1st to December 1st):

  • Hardware: 3.26 million units (+13.1%) / 92.7 billion Yen (+8.6%)
  • Software: 14.63 million units (+5.1%) / 95.9 billion Yen (+8%)
  • Total: 188.6 billion Yen (+8.3%), up from -2.1% at the end of October

Nintendo Switch: 76.9% market share for Hardware, and 65.1% market share for Software.

 
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Lite_Agent said:
Yeah, would've have been announced at the same time too, just like Bayo 1 & 2 were announced alongside 3. Unless they're saving it for the inevitable January Direct, which would be the last possible place to announce them.

Honestly think it could happen, if only because I can totally see Squeenix jumping on the occasion to later port them to PC
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Bayonetta is published by Nintendo---a different company. Not all companies follow the same strategy and not all companies follow the same strategy for all of their games/franchises.

E.g., Square Enix announced Dragon Quest IV, V and VI remakes a year after Dragon Quest IX announcement. Two of them came before the mainline entry and VI came after. Dragon Quest portings on PS4 and 3DS were also announced after XI announcement.

If Bravely Default II is a Q3 game, Square Enix might well be drop a collection during Summer. They don't need much anticipation to announce and release it.
 

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sfortunato said:
Bayonetta is published by Nintendo---a different company. Not all companies follow the same strategy and not all companies follow the same strategy for all of their games/franchises.

E.g., Square Enix announced Dragon Quest IV, V and VI remakes a year after Dragon Quest IX announcement. Two of them came before the mainline entry and VI came after. Dragon Quest portings on PS4 and 3DS were also announced after XI announcement.

If Bravely Default II is a Q3 game, Square Enix might well be drop a collection during Summer. They don't need much anticipation to announce and release it.
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BDII is a sequel tho. it's not an iteration like DQ games
 
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Lite_Agent said:
Yeah, would've have been announced at the same time too, just like Bayo 1 & 2 were announced alongside 3. Unless they're saving it for the inevitable January Direct, which would be the last possible place to announce them.

Honestly think it could happen, if only because I can totally see Squeenix jumping on the occasion to later port them to PC
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I wouldn't be surprised by a later announcement for Bravely Default + Bravely Second with an earlier release. Something similar happened with Dragon Quest Builder: SE first announced the sequel; then they revealed the original was coming to Switch in the September 2017 Direct.
 
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100k 1st week is probably the minimum for Shin Sakura Taisen to be considered any sort of success so hopefully it's done that (plus much more) going by the first day sellthrough and implied shipment.

Other relevant 1st weeks for comparison (Famistu):

Sakura Taisen (SS) 205,270
Sakura Taisen 2 (SS) 355,270
Sakura Taisen GB (GB) 81,381
Sakura Taisen 3 (DC) 216,306
Sakura Taisen GB2 (GBC) 11,494
Sakura Taisen 4 (DC) 207,462
Sakura Taisen [Remake] (PS2) 176,797
Sakura Taisen V Episode 0 (PS2) 55,282
Sakura Taisen V (PS2) 96,282
Dramatic Dungeon Sakura Taisen (DS) 35,607

Valkyria Chronicles (PS3) 77,694
Valkyria Chronicles II (PSP) 101,282
Valkyria Chronicles III (PSP) 108,895
Valkyria Revolution (PSV+PS4) 60,909
Valkyria Chronicles 4 (PS4) 46,852
 
ItWasMeantToBe19

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Wait, why is Valkyria Chronicles a relevant comparison.

Valkyria Chronicles is an SRPG, Sakura Wars 2019 is a Dynasty Warriors dating sim.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Wait, why is Valkyria Chronicles a relevant comparison.

Valkyria Chronicles is an SRPG, Sakura Wars 2019 is a Dynasty Warriors dating sim.
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Same creative team at Sega and Valkyria was billed as sort of a spiritual successor to ST early on.

I just decided to include all the RPGs from both series regardless of subgenre. The only other ARPGs up there are STVE0 and VRev though.
 

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K Samedi said:
Bravely Default 2 is going to be an interesting release sales wise. Octopath Traveler did pretty good and Bravely has the same kind of style. It could show some real growth compared to Bravely Default and also surpass Octopath Traveler if it's ambitious enough.
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I wonder if Bravely's simplistic 3D graphics will be less appealing than Octopath's pixel art
 
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I wonder if Bravely's simplistic 3D graphics will be less appealing than Octopath's pixel art
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I hope there's some heavy rendering and shading tricks smeared over it all to obfuscate those ugly models and flat backgrounds. That's what helped the 3DS games look so great, they sort of looked like what you picture PS1 JRPGs to look like in your head, and also what pulled Octopath's look together.

I love Team Asano but I have to say this is probably their least visually appealing title since way back with FFIII/IV DS. I hope it's just early.
 

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I hope there's some heavy rendering and shading tricks smeared over it all to obfuscate those ugly models and flat backgrounds. That's what helped the 3DS games look so great, they sort of looked like what you picture PS1 JRPGs to look like in your head, and also what pulled Octopath's look together.

I love Team Asano but I have to say this is probably their least visually appealing title since way back with FFIII/IV DS. I hope it's just early.
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They didn't really show that much in the trailer, so maybe it's a late 2020 game and they still have almost a year to tighten the visuals
 
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