Media Create Sales: Week 5, 2018 (Jan 29 - Feb 04)

schuelma · Feb 7, 2018

famitsu out. 223K World sales..bigger drop

sfortunato · Feb 7, 2018

ethomaz said:
PS4 has 4 years in the market... PS3 had even FFXII million seller at time.

Indeed PS4 is selling more software apparently.

I explained possible reasons above. I also explained that I was mainly referring to software sales of this very period and during holidays. What's the point again?

Gibordep · Feb 7, 2018

Charamiwa said:
Guys please slow down with the Nintendo Doomed strawman, it destroys any kind of conversation.

Switch is doing fine, just the notion that it could do so much better with better stock right now isn't quite accurate (at least it doesn't appear to be). I think the Switch just need a small shot in the arm, M+R is nice but something like Kirby or Labo will be welcome.

This comment its based on how many Nintendo is Doomed comments? I think there is already more comments on stop Nintendo is doomed "talk" that actual Nintendo is Doomed comments..
Great MHW and PS4 numbers. Any thing we say about the numbers should be compared with the initial predictions.

About Switch and Nintendo games, I think that in Japanese culture the Switch/Zelda/Mario/Spalatoon should be some kind of fashion accessory that everyone is compelled to buy.. :D

vala · Feb 7, 2018

Is MHW the new Splatoon? I was expecting around 200K

Kolx · Feb 7, 2018

Garf02 said:
Wasnt 2M an all asia figure?? For it to be 3M japan means that is a 1:1 ratio sold on retail, sold digital, this does not happen even in USA,

My guess is abkut 1.8/2M top retail + digital Japan alone

The game is already at 1.8-2 million sold including digital in japan if not more. You think the game is just going to stop selling?

Lord Brady · Feb 7, 2018

Nintendo continues to destroy Japan. 16 of 20 games? Holy shit.

sfortunato · Feb 7, 2018

Famitsu has Snipperclips at 53k meaning that it basically almost depleted its stock. Long legs for this game too.

FormatCompatible · Feb 7, 2018

schuelma said:
famitsu out. 223K World sales..bigger drop

Well that's certainly a difference. Still is really good numbers but the discrepancy is bigger than I would have thought it would be.

ethomaz · Feb 7, 2018

sfortunato said:
Indeed PS4 is selling more software apparently.

I explained possible reasons above. I also explained that I was mainly referring to software sales of this very period and during holidays. What's the point again?

"PS4 software sales outside M are pitiful, indeed."

That is not true at all... sales are better overall even with lower million sellers.

It means PS4 software sales outside big titles are stronger than previous generation.

schuelma · Feb 7, 2018

FormatCompatible said:
Well that's certainly a significant difference. Still is really good numbers but the discrepancy is bigger than I would have thought it would be.

MC had World about a 100K lower first week so maybe MC adjusting upwards or famitsu adjusting downwards?

ShadowGP · Feb 7, 2018

[NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. # <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.08.25} (¥5.800) - 3.180 / 211.119 (+1%)

Garf02 · Feb 7, 2018

Kolx said:
The game is already at 1.8-2 million sold including digital in japan if not more. You think the game is just going to stop selling?

Do i stutter or somethin?? Where donI said stop selling?? As of this (last sunday) game is likely at 1.8-2M japan, im not playing crystal ball regarind the past 2 extra days (monday and tuesday)

MysticGon · Feb 7, 2018

I said shit! If you would have told me Monster Hunter World even had a chance of outsell Double Cross' 3DS+Switch total I would not have believed you.

Kolx · Feb 7, 2018

Garf02 said:
Do i stutter or somethin?? Where donI said stop selling?? As of this (last sunday) game is likely at 1.8-2M japan, im not playing crystal ball regarind the past 2 extra days (monday and tuesday)

The post you replied to was talking ltd not first 2 weeks tho. Unless your guess is detached from the the rest of your comment and his?

sfortunato · Feb 7, 2018

ethomaz said:
"PS4 software sales outside M are pitiful, indeed."

That is not true at all... sales are better overall even with lower million sellers.

It means PS4 software sales outside big titles are stronger than previous generation.

Again, I was referring to this period. MHW is selling well; outside MHW software is not selling well. PS4 is charting 4 games in the Top 20 and is right now the best-selling console. MHW didn't bring new adopters to purchase other software. Dissidia bombed; anime tie-ins bombed too (The Seven Deadly Sins sold 80k with a cheap game); games that were used to be long seller are nowhere to be seen: Gran Turismo, Minna no Golf. Yakuza Kiwami 2 wasn't able to catch up with PS4+PS3 sales of the previous entry. Idolmaster, RE7 Gold Edition, SFV:AE bombed too. FighterZ is not selling that well and will be outsolde by XenoVerse 2 Switch.

pulga · Feb 7, 2018

Kolx said:
More revenue than they ever did by a huge margin relatively to any monster hunter game ever? and we're just at the second week and still have the pc version. Are people actually still discussing whether World isn't the most successful entry in the series? actually since +2.5 million with digital is pretty much a lock right now if you take the 50% price point difference then that is almost 4 million copies sold in japan. World is getting almost the same revenue old monster hunter games were getting in japan on portables.

1) This is a Japan thread
2) What are the margins? World was undoubtedly more expensive to make than the previous entries.

You seem to be making huge assumptions in order to justify your position.

FormatCompatible · Feb 7, 2018

schuelma said:
MC had World about a 100K lower first week so maybe MC adjusting upwards or famitsu adjusting downwards?

That is mostly likely it, it would certainly explain the difference in a reasonably way.

Umibozu · Feb 7, 2018

Nice hold for monster hunter: world and ps4.

Always good to see xenoblade 2 still charting.

FormatCompatible · Feb 7, 2018

Umibozu said:
Always good to see xenoblade 2 still charting.

Yeah, personally that's the one that probably makes me more happy to see it coming up.

Scum · Feb 7, 2018

Well done to Capcom. Now let's see if they learn from this or turn themselves into them "Monster Hunter & Friends" company...

Fisico · Feb 7, 2018

Charamiwa said:
Another member here told us Switch grey SKU was still in stock at a store. Anecdotal evidence shows that things are turning.

That might have been me at Yodobashi Sapporo.
It was still in stock today as well and neon SKU was expected to be the 10th.
I also went to Bic Camera, no switch in stock, no MHW either as well as plenty of switch titles including Pokken.

I wouldn't mind posting pics but that's a long and painful process to do so on my phone.

Great sales all around this week otherwise, MHW might be mitigated by tracker's adjustment but hardware sales do not lie.

Chris1964 · Feb 7, 2018

Famitsu Sales: Week 5, 2018 (Jan 29 - Feb 04)

01./01. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World # <ACT> (Capcom) {2018.01.26} (¥8.980) - 223.274 / 1.573.686 <80-100%> (-83%)
02./00. [PS4] Dragon Ball FighterZ <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.02.01} (¥7.600) - 59.465 / NEW <60-80%>
03./03. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 24.040 / 1.995.731 <80-100%> (-4%)
04./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 18.969 / 1.292.299 <80-100%> (-8%)
05./02. [NSW] Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle <SLG> (Nintendo) {2018.01.18} (¥5.980) - 18.126 / 134.546 <80-100%> (-38%)
06./06. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 17.895 / 785.285 <80-100%> (+42%)
07./00. [NSW] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim <The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim \ The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Dawnguard \ The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Hearthfire \ The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Dragonborn> <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks) {2018.02.01} (¥6.980) - 14.849 / NEW <40-60%>
08./05. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 14.675 / 1.529.207 <80-100%> (-12%)
09./08. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} (¥4.980) - 10.847 / 2.143.836 <80-100%> (-10%)
10./13. [3DS] Mario Party: The Top 100 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.12.28} (¥4.980) - 5.907 / 157.151 <80-100%> (+7%)
11./11. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch Busters 2: Hihou Legend Banbarayaa - Sword / Magnum <ACT> (Level 5) {2017.12.16} (¥4.800) - 5.098 / 473.373 <80-100%> (-19%)
12./00. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} (¥6.800) - 4.525 / 107.595 <80-100%>
13./14. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 4.362 / 338.401 <80-100%> (-5%)
14./15. [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX <FTG> (Pokemon Co.) {2017.09.22} (¥5.980) - 4.259 / 207.029 <80-100%> (-5%)
15./16. [NSW] Arms <FTG> (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} (¥5.980) - 4.070 / 329.050 <80-100%> (-7%)
16./07. [3DS] Pokemon Crystal _3DS Virtual Console Version_ |DL| (Dedicated Download Card Special) <RPG> (Nintendo) {2018.01.26} (¥1.389) - 3.942 / 16.290 <80-100%> (-68%)
17./10. [PS4] Dissidia: Final Fantasy NT <ACT> (Square Enix) {2018.01.11} (¥7.800) - 3.425 / 140.729 <80-100%> (-51%)
18./18. [NSW] FIFA 18 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2017.09.29} (¥5.800) - 3.329 / 74.927 <80-100%> (-9%)
19./19. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. # <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.08.25} (¥5.800) - 2.982 / 222.620 <80-100%> (+4%)
20./12. [PS4] Gintama Ranbu # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.01.18} (¥7.600) - 2.733 / 45.428 <80-100%> (-55%)
21./27. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2017.12.01} (¥7.980) - 2.361 / 168.271 <80-100%> (+41%)
22./09. [PS4] The Seven Deadly Sins: Knights of Britannia <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.01.25} (¥7.600) - 2.295 / 10.047 <40-60%> (-70%)
23./23. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700) - 2.252 / 343.748 <80-100%> (-2%)
24./28. [3DS] Kirby Battle Royale <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.11.30} (¥4.980) - 2.208 / 147.840 <80-100%> (+32%)
25./00. [PS4] EA Sports UFC 3 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2018.02.02} (¥7.800) - 2.164 / NEW <20-40%>
26./17. [PSV] Gintama Ranbu # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.01.18} (¥6.800) - 2.084 / 25.586 <60-80%> (-47%)
27./00. [NSW] LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2 <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2018.02.01} (¥5.700) - 1.991 / NEW <20-40%>
28./20. [PS4] Call of Duty: WWII # <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2017.11.03} (¥7.900) - 1.945 / 365.482 <80-100%> (-30%)
29./21. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} (¥4.990) - 1.933 / 343.425 <80-100%> (-16%)
30./24. [NSW] Snipperclips Plus: Cut it Out, Together! <PZL> (Nintendo) {2017.11.10} (¥3.280) - 1.874 / 53.198 <80-100%> (-12%)

Top 30

NSW - 15
PS4 - 8
3DS - 6
PSV - 1

HARDWARE

Code:

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| PS4 # |    109.286 |    140.432 |     35.980 |    439.423 |    348.400 |   6.296.286 |
|  NSW  |     46.517 |     39.473 |            |    315.564 |            |   3.722.722 |
| 3DS # |     12.551 |     12.572 |     31.299 |    125.743 |    387.115 |  23.864.287 |
| PSV # |      4.228 |      3.367 |      9.772 |     28.867 |    127.234 |   5.672.493 |
| XB1 # |      1.086 |      1.603 |        117 |      3.531 |      2.402 |      91.123 |
|  WIU  |         16 |         17 |        998 |        219 |     11.134 |   3.301.774 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |    173.684 |    197.464 |     78.562 |    913.347 |    879.280 |  42.948.685 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 X |      1.045 |      1.545 |            |      3.099 |            |       5.402 |
| XB1 S |         41 |         58 |         88 |        432 |      1.837 |      13.719 |
|PS4 Pro|     21.080 |     26.885 |      8.713 |     88.326 |     47.669 |     603.270 |
|  PS4  |     88.206 |    113.547 |     27.267 |    351.097 |    300.731 |   5.693.016 |
|  PSV  |      4.228 |      3.367 |      9.772 |     28.867 |    127.234 |   5.672.493 |
|n-2DSLL|      7.719 |      7.565 |            |     84.571 |            |     672.122 |
|  2DS  |        492 |        577 |      7.279 |      5.305 |    117.542 |     567.995 |
| n-3DS |      4.340 |      4.430 |     24.020 |     35.867 |    269.573 |   5.703.893 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

Lite_Agent · Feb 7, 2018

schuelma said:
famitsu out. 223K World sales..bigger drop

At first I thought it was another episode of the MC/Famitsu shenanigans, but it looks like it's just MC adjusting their sales. 100k is exactly the difference between MC and Famitsu for Week 1. We'll see with Dengeki data, I guess.

ethomaz · Feb 7, 2018

sfortunato said:
Again, I was referring to this period. MHW is selling well; outside MHW software is not selling well. PS4 is charting 4 games in the Top 20 and is right now the best-selling console. MHW didn't bring new adopters to purchase other software. Dissidia bombed; anime tie-ins bombed too (The Seven Deadly Sins sold 80k with a cheap game); games that were used to be long seller are nowhere to be seen: Gran Turismo, Minna no Golf. Yakuza Kiwami 2 wasn't able to catch up with PS4+PS3 sales of the previous entry. Idolmaster, RE7 Gold Edition, SFV:AE bombed too. FighterZ is not selling that well and will be outsolde by XenoVerse 2 Switch.

Yeap at near term it really didn't have ew adoption but we need to see what these 200k new owners will buy after they finish MH.

If I buy a console for a game then I will only buy another game after I finish it... that is me of course but I believe the increase in userbase just increase the software after some time.

Mark H · Feb 7, 2018

Oooo, just realized Xenoblade 2 is back!
Glad it's still sticking around.
Great hold for MHW, not so sure about DBF or Skyrim numbers.

Welfare · Feb 7, 2018

Holy shit at PS4 and Monster Hunter. Capcom finally lands a hit.

Vena · Feb 7, 2018

Nearly identical hardware, so software adjustment between Fami and MC is the answer.

sfortunato · Feb 7, 2018

ethomaz said:
Yeap at near term it really didn't have ew adoption but we need to see what these 200k new owners will buy after they finish MH.

If I buy a console for a game then I will only buy another game after I finish it... that is me of course but I believe the increase in userbase just increase the software after some time.

Sure but hardware sales increased before MHW release too.

Kolx · Feb 7, 2018

pulga said:
1) This is a Japan thread
2) What are the margins? World was undoubtedly more expensive to make than the previous entries.

You seem to be making huge assumptions in order to justify your position.

Whether it's a successful decision or not (which the original comment claims) is based on total sales not japan alone for any company unless you think something as obvious as this need discussing? and the series needed a revamp that would've happened regardless if it was on ps4 or switch. The assets will be used in many more MH games so the cost to transform the series is going to be distributed on many upcoming MH games and not just world. Taking all that in and how the game sold more copies at a higher price point how is that not more successful? if we're talking revenue then that's 7.5 million copies sold in old games. The game is definitely more profitable. If not already then when everything is said and done.

Mark H · Feb 7, 2018

I wonder if the Switch stock situation is going to get worse with the upcoming Chinese new year holiday?
Or have they stocked up enough to accommodate for all Chinese factories shutting down.

Griz · Feb 7, 2018

Japan is great at fighters but the fgc in Japan is niche, much like west. DBFZ beat SF5 opening week, thats a better comparison than thinking a fighting game is going to sell as much as other genres. DBFZ has amazing sales in west because DBZ IP. DBZ IP does not go that far in Japan anymore.

This all being said I did expect more out of DBFZ. But I did not expect some of the massive numbers people are talking about out of a fighter.

Noobie · Feb 7, 2018

If PS4 has something for the holidays 2018 in Japan then it can definitely hit 2m numbers in Japan . I wander if Kingdom heart 3 can be such a hardware mover for PS4 and if it can get released in Nov Dec 2018?

schuelma · Feb 7, 2018

We will see with dengeki data and next weeks drops, but right now it looks more likely to me that MC adjusted upwards this week and famitsu numbers are the more accurate ones.

Vena · Feb 7, 2018

Griz said:
Japan is great at fighters but the fgc in Japan is niche, much like west. DBFZ beat SF5 opening week, thats a better comparison than thinking a fighting game is going to sell as much as other genres. DBFZ has amazing sales in west because DBZ IP. DBZ IP does not go that far in Japan anymore.

This all being said I did expect more out of DBFZ. But I did not expect some of the massive numbers people are talking about out of a fighter.

I don't think DBFZ is itself greatly disappointing, it's more that people are disappointed that despite massive hardware the software isn't moving more/at all. So DBFZ just has an okay launch in context of really good hardware to which it likely contributed a little.

Gun · Feb 7, 2018

I was expecting a little more from DB FighterZ, but 60k is more than any other fighting game for the PS4 no?
And for Arc is a great result, I hope that they keep working with Bamco in another projects besides Dragon Ball

K Samedi · Feb 7, 2018

Switch seems like a very healthy platform to release games on. People are buying loads of games for it.

Mario Bilo · Feb 7, 2018

Vena said:
I don't think DBFZ is itself greatly disappointing, it's more that people are disappointed that despite massive hardware the software isn't moving more/at all. So DBFZ just has an okay launch in context of really good hardware to which it likely contributed a little.

Dragonball games have been having these kind of numbers in Japan for years. Anyone expecting massive 150k opening was out of their minds.

sfortunato · Feb 7, 2018

Mario Bilo said:
Dragonball games have been having these kind of numbers in Japan for years. Anyone expecting massive 150k opening was out of their minds.

...on home consoles.

Some 3DS games sold 250k+ units.

Vena · Feb 7, 2018

Mario Bilo said:
Dragonball games have been having these kind of numbers in Japan for years. Anyone expecting massive 150k opening was out of their minds.

I'm more talking like another 10k not triple the FW.

DeuceGamer · Feb 7, 2018

What were expectations for Mario + Rabbids in Japan? Seems like a solid start and a nice hold but I'm not sure what was expected of that title.

Nice to see MHW and PS4 selling good. Seems like the Japanese market is doing better with Switch being successful and PS4 getting a boost from MHW.

ILikeFeet · Feb 7, 2018

Lite_Agent said:
"Hey guys, don't forget about me!"

DONT FORGET [MEH]!

Instro · Feb 7, 2018

Nacho said:
What? Doing 50k weekly with no big releases while or has one of the biggest releases of the year is worrying?

Well for comparison the 3DS was putting up much bigger numbers at the beginning of 2012. Obviously it had less competition and no supply constraints, but it's not a great trend to start the year.

Hayeya · Feb 7, 2018

Cant believe that a PS4 game in 2018 is going those numbers. Dragon freaking quest was not able to do them.

Chris1964 · Feb 7, 2018

Mark H said:
I wonder if the Switch stock situation is going to get worse with the upcoming Chinese new year holiday?
Or have they stocked up enough to accommodate for all Chinese factories shutting down.

Don't expect full supply this FY but even with tight shipments you won't see them dropping below 40-50k in February. March will be even better.

Toxi · Feb 7, 2018

Hayeya said:
Cant believe that a PS4 game in 2018 is going those numbers. Dragon freaking quest was not able to do them.

To be fair, Dragon Quest was competing with a 3DS version.

Peace · Feb 7, 2018

OfficerRaichu15 said:
Yeah I don't know why people are trying to be naysayers :P
50k Is a good baseline. I mean PS4 just had its biggest release of the generation of course it's gonna be higher y'all. Switch will be fine.

When you posted that message, it was literally one guy in this thread saying Switch HW numbers are disappointing him (opinion and all), and it's "people" and "naysayers" already ? I swear there are always more people talking about people saying that "Nintendo is doomed" than "people" really voicing it or even thinking about it. It's not like I'm not beginning to get used to that kind of stuff in this thread, but it's getting really tiring reading about that same "niche" and "Nintendo's doom" joke every week.

I don't even know how all those "harmless jokes" aren't considered a form of constant bullying people for having a "wrong" opinion or being wrong in their predictions, because to me it looks a lot like it.

Let's not even talk about those preemptive strikes about Skyrim results on Switch when I'm not even sure that many people care about the game in the first place in this thread :

OfficerRaichu15 said:
What's funny is they can't, Xenoverse 2 and FIFA 18 had similar debuts and both will sell past 100k. Skyrim will be fine.

Fularu said:
I'm fully expecting someone to use Skyrim as an example that 3rd party software doesn't sell on Switch :p

I don't know, I don't feel the need for "poking fun" at people for being wrong about MHW or calling them "naysayers" on each occasions. And we're not speaking about being XC2 level of wrong here, we're speaking about people almost putting their kidneys and certainly their honors on the table supporting that Capcom was making a stupid decision. Is it that hard to be more humble and respectful ?

KillerMan91 · Feb 7, 2018

schuelma said:
We will see with dengeki data and next weeks drops, but right now it looks more likely to me that MC adjusted upwards this week and famitsu numbers are the more accurate ones.

Why? To me it looks like exactly opposite. Strong PS4 HW sales this week would indicate MC having closer to reality sales this week for MHW itself and Famitsu adjusting their numbers for too big first week.

Puroresu_kid · Feb 7, 2018

Why the concern over switch?

Its doing just fine.

schuelma · Feb 7, 2018

KillerMan91 said:
Why? To me it looks like exactly opposite. Strong PS4 HW sales this week would indicate MC having closer to reality sales this week for MHW itself and Famitsu adjusting their numbers for too big first week.

Well, chiefly because famitsu and dengeki both agreed on World sales last week- MC was the outlier.

Edit- Also would track better with YSO 2nd and 3rd week estimates. But we'll see!

KillerMan91 · Feb 7, 2018

schuelma said:
Well, chiefly because famitsu and dengeki both agreed on World sales last week- MC was the outlier.

Oh. Forgot Dengeki completely. Well I guess we will see.

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