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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2017 (Dec 11 - Dec 17)
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pretty sure it will when nintendo finally sells themselves to sony
I mean that's exactly why I didn't believe it for so long on the old site only more recently as more and more came out about the whole thing did I feel their may have been a nugget of truth to it.
Why would it be damage control when it was before it was announced?
Anyway, the rumor was just shared again so people would stop saying "it's to push agendas" while not remembering what was written in.
Blame Psycho for bringing it back when nobody was talking about it anymore.
No, it read like a rumor that got Capcom MH 2017-2018 pipeline right. The rumor doesn't even says MHW is a bad game, just more streamlined---very likely given the strong focus on Western markets Capcom has admitted a few months ago talking about the game. Focus group testing and time/skills constraints might have incentivized the team to backpedal a bit.
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The game is much more popular than I would have expected. I wonder if Nintendo will pursue similar projects of if this was just a one time schedule filler.
I like how Persona 5 can of course run on the vita while most games must face so much compromises to be ported on the switch that this wouldn't be worth it.
It's not damage control for Capcom... I don't think I have to explain this
You mean the rumour doesn't talk about identity crysis, lack of weapons, qtes, open world, casualized systems, etc? Because all those flags were raised to shit on the game back when the rumour came, saying that is was going to be a massive crap and a betrayal to MH fans. And they turned out to be false, shocking.
Please do. You were the one bringing up damage control, might as well explain it so I am not confused by what you meant (me or other posters).
Looking at the rumor I could only have wished that they finally got rid of the timer.
You're reading it correctly
Yeah it seems that way. Apparently it only got restocks a couple of times in the middle of last week. It'll sure be interesting to see how much higher it'll go this week.
Yeah and better restocks today than first 4 days (first 4 days are good, best first 4days) but best restocks are announced for tomorrow, Sunday idk.
I still don't understand Fdkn, wasn't the rumor out prior to the announcement of the game? That is a hell of a bullseye guessing a game that has really only seen success as a handheld game would get a release on PS4 that is (while maybe not in gameplay approach) heavily aimed towards the West?
I imagine at the time this rumor was made very few would have guessed of such a situation as of now.
I imagine at the time this rumor was made very few would have guessed of such a situation as of now.
it was announced before MH XX was even anounced (just before). The rumour is over a year old.
It's obvious damage control for all those disgrunted 'fans' that didn't want to accept that the game existed because of what it was and where it was releasing.
Don't worry, this game is going to be terrible because all this stuff I made up, but in the future we will have the real good game.
So all things considered it is pretty close to what seems to be happening, regardless of it being a rumor, prediction, prognastation, or hallucination.
What was the reason, again, to "talk shit" about a game that was not even announced/known to the public back then? To me, all these elements are perfectly reasonable situations considering the inexperience of the team with HD development and Capcom desire to push towards Western markets (both things are mere facts). Open world is not even a bad thing, as well as QTEs.
What muddles it up is that the poster definitely adds a derogatory spin to the whole thing. It got MHXX, and to some degree the "exclusivity" of World, but it falls flat when it comes to the details about the title. Some things are vague and could be true ("Streamlined gameplay and less emphasis on gathering), but it gets weapon details among other things wrong. Could've been conjecture or early information on the poster's part, but there is not way to truly know. Will be interesting to see how the MHP Switch portion turns out.
It is undeniable that the poster of the rumor had a axe to grind with MHW though
Ask the people that filled those hundreds of pages, how would I know what goes in their minds.
Not really, no. That's why I posted what the actual rumour was, so people can look at it and decide its legitimacy for themselves.
The rumour was laughed at at the time, because it seemed so unlikely.
As Nibel said elsewhere:
I have no idea what you mean in the end.
So it was damage control for a game that wasn't announced, but the damage control wasn't for Capcom/MonHun, and the rumor was wrong while it was true at the same time?
Which is it?
It does. The rumour doesn't end with the image you posted, the other one is the same source.
I mean, if at this point you don't understand what I am saying you're either being naive or wasting my time. Feel free to believe what you want, this argument has been done a dozen times already and it's pointless.
To be fair many of those things could have been true 12-18 months prior to release of the game or whenever the dude who leaked it heard it from its source.
It overall sounds exactly like what happened at the. Identity crisis is obv. the wrong word as of now, but there is a reason why MHW isnt just called MH5 and that Capcom provided MH XX to Switch relatively quick...while they take forever to port most other games.
Some people at Capcom not willing to completely give up on the portable market while working at MHW is not that difficult to believe.
Well, it can never truly be proven one way or the other, so fighting over its validity will cycle endlessly. I don't even see the rumor dying after MHW because it casted a view on MHP Switch as well. Either way, you're right that it is off-topic.
It actually might not be, if you notice in these imageboards (4chan and the like) most post as Anonymous, so anyone could potentially have created the second rumor.
After this morning
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2398012/
Switch restocks continue almost everywhere in Japan this afternoon (sfc mini too but less), an example with Yodobashi:
Shinjuku Nishiguchi 9:30, 16:10, 18:00 (yeah, 3 restocks today)
Yokohama 9:30, 18:00
Umeda 9:30
Hakata 9:30
Kamiooka 10:00
Kichijoji 16:00
Ueno 18:00
Machida 20:00
Sexy picture :p
More pictures here
A very good day, tomorrow will be better, more quantities announced by many retailers, sexy Switch numbers for this week it seems ^^
Prediction: Switch week 51 > the last 5 weeks of 2017 for the second best selling system.
#hype
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Otherwise, it's not really hard to imagine someone extrapolating stuff based on what they've heard and what seems to 'make sense'. Like MHW may have never been called MH5, but if one heard something 'the next major release' (as an example, probably not the terminology Capcom would use), at that stage they would just kinda presume 'Oh, that's MH5'. So it could easily be a mix of actual truths and half-truths they presumed as a result of the conversation with whoever their source was.
Meanwhile, I'm curious to see how Nintendo manages if they're now doing daily restocks. I guess they want as few people as possible to be deterred from buying one, particularly if they can only spare the one day to hunt a Switch down.
What about EDF5 caused the sudden sales spike? Is it a new take on the franchise or is it just really high quality for the franchise?
This month's Nintendo Dream's issue has updates for several Nintendo Switch third party games, up to December 3rd, 2017 (so, Week 48). Here's the list, complete with first week numbers / first week ceilings for all the games listed.
Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) - 84,277 / 173,823
Super Bomberman R (Konami) - 36,623 / 116,911
Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) - 25,606 / 72,514
Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) - 41,491 / 62,105
Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) - 12,854 / 61,748
Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) - 24,045 / 61,475
Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) - 29,564 / 49,129
Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) - 16,404 / 35,956
FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) - 12,616 / 32,896
Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) - 7,447 / 23,661
Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) - 9,482 / 23,484
Dragon Quest X: 5000-nen no Harukanaru Kokyou e Online (Square Enix) - 18,444 / 21,793
Disgaea 5 Complete (Nippon Ichi Software) - < 5,481 / 19,978
Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) - 10,247 / 18,891
I am Setsuna (Square Enix) - < 5,481 / 17,933
LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) - 5,351 / 17,025
One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) - 4,652 / 12,223
Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) - 3,220 / 11,229
Lost Sphear (Square Enix) - 5,770 / 11,097
Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom) - 84,277 / 173,823
Super Bomberman R (Konami) - 36,623 / 116,911
Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch (Square Enix) - 25,606 / 72,514
Fire Emblem Warriors (Koei Tecmo) - 41,491 / 62,105
Puyo Puyo Tetris S (Sega) - 12,854 / 61,748
Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch (Bandai Namco Games) - 24,045 / 61,475
Seiken Densetsu Collection (Square Enix) - 29,564 / 49,129
Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers (Capcom) - 16,404 / 35,956
FIFA 18 (Electronic Arts) - 12,616 / 32,896
Minna de Wai Wai! Spelunker (Square Enix) - 7,447 / 23,661
Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) - 9,482 / 23,484
Dragon Quest X: 5000-nen no Harukanaru Kokyou e Online (Square Enix) - 18,444 / 21,793
Disgaea 5 Complete (Nippon Ichi Software) - < 5,481 / 19,978
Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) - 10,247 / 18,891
I am Setsuna (Square Enix) - < 5,481 / 17,933
LEGO City Undercover (Warner Entertainment Japan) - 5,351 / 17,025
One Piece: Unlimited World Red – Deluxe Edition (Bandai Namco Games) - 4,652 / 12,223
Cars 3: Driven to Win (Warner Entertainment Japan) - 3,220 / 11,229
Lost Sphear (Square Enix) - 5,770 / 11,097
Impressive SFC mini restocks for December, Japan = Nintendoland.
Or you could ask yourself what could be the reason for 'the leaker' to only detail what would be perceived as bad features for the series and all of them turning out to be false.
Looks like they actually calculated it well. Everything should be gone by New Year.
I wish Nintendo shared DLC sales for that game, to see how many of the 100k+ people who bought it digitally bought the expansion as DLC, or rebought the whole thing at retail. Considering the save data isn't compatible between the two games, I assume not that many people double-dipped.
MHXX almost to 200k. Seiken on the cusp of 50k.
Pretty depressing for FEW and Lost Sphear
On SNES mini. I think comparing it to other systems might not be appropriate.
It's almost as if it's a game collection with a hardware peripheral attached and the potential userbase is anyone that owns a TV haha.
The library doesn't grow. There's no software to buy. Etc. It's appeal only depends on price. I think that's why it's sales cycle is different from consoles which have a peak in sales as price goes down and library develops. For snes mini sales are extremely front loaded. There's no early adopters. Supply has to basically satisfy all of demand at a given price all at once.
The only things that would spike demand are holidays and whatnot.
It's almost as if it's a game collection with a hardware peripheral attached and the potential userbase is anyone that owns a TV haha.
The library doesn't grow. There's no software to buy. Etc. It's appeal only depends on price. I think that's why it's sales cycle is different from consoles which have a peak in sales as price goes down and library develops. For snes mini sales are extremely front loaded. There's no early adopters. Supply has to basically satisfy all of demand at a given price all at once.
The only things that would spike demand are holidays and whatnot.
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I wouldn't expect many to have rebought the game as the save data isn't compatible with the original download title.
Considering how similar the Secret of Mana remake looks to IaS and LP, makes me fear for the future of the franchise as a whole.
Well the Mana ROM dumps on Switch sold 50k so it looks like there's definitely still interest in the series.
Not that I want to be dragged into this pointless discussion but there is no way someone just came up with a shitty name like MH Double Cross. Make of that what you will.
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